[Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

Mon Oct 3 21:37:34 CDT 2016

I am blown away that they are perfectly willing and eager to put the cat to
sleep but not willing to try the doxycycline that will block the virus from
replicating. We fight for our kitties' lives and have to also fight the vets
to get the medicine they need, and we have to tread lightly when we find a
vet willing to prescribe the Winstrol that they need. I wish we could just
buy it over the counter.

Ardy

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 4:53 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

Thanks Amani. 

I called the vets office right after I read what you wrote below and asked
again for the Doxycycline and he insisted she did not need it. I am just
going to have to hope that Bogey continues to get better on the regiment we
are on. I feel very thankful for my vet that he prescribing the Winstrol. I
hope it is enough.

Your boy Zander must have been one strong cat to recover from how sick he
was. It sounds like you really monitored him and gave him the best
treatment. Your advise and knowledge of this awful disease and the benefits
and pitfalls of trying to treat it is invaluable to all of us who are caring
for these lovely creatures.

I read this messaging board and feel so bad that cat owners who desperately
need this drug cannot get it. I believe without a doubt that as fast as
Bogey's counts were dropping, she would probably not still be with me today
without it. I am sure the stigma attached to it keeps a lot of vets from
prescribing it or maybe they are just uneducated about it. My other vet
wouldn't even discuss a transfusion as she was certain that nothing could
help us for very long. She was quite intent on me putting this cat down and
just wanted to wash her hands of us it seemed. So the stigma isn't just
about this treatment, it is around the disease itself. Her statement "There
are plenty of other healthy cats that need good homes" is proof enough of
that.

How frustrating for all of us. 

Thank you again for your insight.

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Date: Friday, September 30, 2016 at 2:29 PM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

Hi Sherri

Keep up with the bloodwork. Good for you. Because I did Zander's bloodwork
weekly, I was able to watch his counts very carefully as well, and this is
why I am so firm on what I saw that worked and what I saw that didn't work.
Keeping a close eye on the bloodwork will help you immediately point to the
effects of the medication, and I am sure that the stall you got on the
improvement of the bloodwork is solely because he removed her off the
Winstrol. I saw this drop or stagnation every time I even tried to wean
Zander down from 2 mg a day to 1 mg a day, for the first 10 months, but I
was starting at much worse blood results than you were. Zander's haematocrit
was 10 when I started the Winstrol.

Interesting about your vet's background. That may well explain his openness
to using Winstrol where so many others refuse. Those in athletics are well
aware of the amazing body building, muscle building, strength building
properties of Winstrol, and the fact that the rumoured side-effects are very
very exaggerated - probably to try and scare off athletes from using the
stuff. Once you use it, you find out it really doesn't have all those
terrible side effects, and it makes a real difference to improving body
strength. That is why I have come to the conclusion that, very sadly, we are
being denied access to Winstrol, not because it doesn't work or because it
has bad side effects, but because in the media it is BAD to take steroids if
you are an athlete. Why that should affect cats, or elderly people with
osteoporosis for that matter, is way way beyond me and very frustrating.

With respect to the platelets, my concern remains that the low platelet
count and the high lymphocyte count show that the virus is still actively
attacking cells. My theory is that while the Winstrol is working to build up
bone marrow and allow it to regenerate the lost red cells, the virus is
still attacking. That is why I believe that the Winstrol on its own will not
be enough, and you need to double-team the virus with the Doxycycline on the
one side, interfering with the ability of the virus to reproduce and the
Winstrol on the other hand, working to repair some of the damage caused by
the virus.

I don't think there is anything that directly will give you a boost on the
platelets, and my concern is that when the platelets drop so low, you have a
real risk of internal bleeding. I don't know what else to suggest.

Amani

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