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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I am blown away that they are perfectly willing and eager to put the cat to sleep but not willing to try the doxycycline that will block the virus from replicating. We fight for our kitties’ lives and have to also fight the vets to get the medicine they need, and we have to tread lightly when we find a vet willing to prescribe the Winstrol that they need. I wish we could just buy it over the counter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ardy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sherri Godschalk<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 30, 2016 4:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thanks Amani. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I called the vets office right after I read what you wrote below and asked again for the Doxycycline and he insisted she did not need it. I am just going to have to hope that Bogey continues to get better on the regiment we are on. I feel very thankful for my vet that he prescribing the Winstrol. I hope it is enough.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Your boy Zander must have been one strong cat to recover from how sick he was. It sounds like you really monitored him and gave him the best treatment. Your advise and knowledge of this awful disease and the benefits and pitfalls of trying to treat it is invaluable to all of us who are caring for these lovely creatures.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I read this messaging board and feel so bad that cat owners who desperately need this drug cannot get it. I believe without a doubt that as fast as Bogey’s counts were dropping, she would probably not still be with me today without it. I am sure the stigma attached to it keeps a lot of vets from prescribing it or maybe they are just uneducated about it. My other vet wouldn’t even discuss a transfusion as she was certain that nothing could help us for very long. She was quite intent on me putting this cat down and just wanted to wash her hands of us it seemed. So the stigma isn’t just about this treatment, it is around the disease itself. Her statement “There are plenty of other healthy cats that need good homes” is proof enough of that.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>How frustrating for all of us. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thank you again for your insight.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Felvtalk <<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>> on behalf of Amani Oakley <<a href="mailto:aoakley@oakleylegal.com">aoakley@oakleylegal.com</a>><br><b>Reply-To: </b><<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Friday, September 30, 2016 at 2:29 PM<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>[Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Hi Sherri</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Keep up with the bloodwork. Good for you. Because I did Zander’s bloodwork weekly, I was able to watch his counts very carefully as well, and this is why I am so firm on what I saw that worked and what I saw that didn’t work. Keeping a close eye on the bloodwork will help you immediately point to the effects of the medication, and I am sure that the stall you got on the improvement of the bloodwork is solely because he removed her off the Winstrol. I saw this drop or stagnation every time I even tried to wean Zander down from 2 mg a day to 1 mg a day, for the first 10 months, but I was starting at much worse blood results than you were. Zander’s haematocrit was 10 when I started the Winstrol.</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Interesting about your vet’s background. That may well explain his openness to using Winstrol where so many others refuse. Those in athletics are well aware of the amazing body building, muscle building, strength building properties of Winstrol, and the fact that the rumoured side-effects are very very exaggerated – probably to try and scare off athletes from using the stuff. Once you use it, you find out it really doesn’t have all those terrible side effects, and it makes a real difference to improving body strength. That is why I have come to the conclusion that, very sadly, we are being denied access to Winstrol, not because it doesn’t work or because it has bad side effects, but because in the media it is BAD to take steroids if you are an athlete. Why that should affect cats, or elderly people with osteoporosis for that matter, is way way beyond me and very frustrating.</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>With respect to the platelets, my concern remains that the low platelet count and the high lymphocyte count show that the virus is still actively attacking cells. My theory is that while the Winstrol is working to build up bone marrow and allow it to regenerate the lost red cells, the virus is still attacking. That is why I believe that the Winstrol on its own will not be enough, and you need to double-team the virus with the Doxycycline on the one side, interfering with the ability of the virus to reproduce and the Winstrol on the other hand, working to repair some of the damage caused by the virus.</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I don’t think there is anything that directly will give you a boost on the platelets, and my concern is that when the platelets drop so low, you have a real risk of internal bleeding. I don’t know what else to suggest.</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Amani</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Felvtalk [<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sherri Godschalk<br><b>Sent:</b> September-30-16 2:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list <a href="mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a> <a href="http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org">http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>