[Felvtalk] Convenia was/Coco update

Sun Oct 4 01:15:47 CDT 2015

Jane

If you are brand new, as in the last few days, then you will not have read my previous posts about Winstrol. Winstrol is an anabolic steroid which I have had great success with, and it will help with things like the lethargy and the lack of appetite.

Winstrol apparently used to be used rather frequently years ago, until suggestions of liver damage emerged. However, my research shows that any effect on the liver is usually transient with liver enzymes rising. But once the Winstrol is tapered off, the liver enzymes go back to normal and there is no evidence of lasting damage.

Winstrol is rarely used now, and many vets may not be familiar with it. I believe it must usually be obtained from a compounding pharmacy by your vet.

I will not go into all the detail of what my experience was with Winstrol, but I have found it to be extremely effective for cats with leukemia, as well as many other conditions in cats.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Gannon
Sent: October-03-15 11:49 AM
To: Margo; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Convenia was/Coco update

I am new to the forum and I was wondering if anyone ever had a felv cat that had a fever, was lethargic and not eating well.  No other symptoms. If so, how was it treated and was it successful.

Jane
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From: Margo<mailto:toomanykitties2 at earthlink.net>
To: Amy<mailto:awilkins23 at yahoo.com> ; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 8:08 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Convenia was/Coco update

Amy, I'm with you, but done is done.

My biggest issue with long lasting drugs like this is that you can't take it back. If there's an adverse reaction, you're stuck with it, and the consequences. I will only use those if the critter has shown no problems with the drug before (kind of impossible with Convenia, as it doesn't come in another form, but I'd certainly try a short term cephalosporin first) or is feral and cannot be medicated.

Some Vets seem to be quite enamoured with Convenia, and give it without asking, for very inappropriate reasons. I have NO CONVENIA on all my charts. Doesn't mean I won't allow it ever, but this makes them talk to me first...

Margo

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From: Amy
Sent: Oct 3, 2015 8:11 AM
To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>"
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Coco update

I know people may disagree but I would not suggest doing convenia for a cat with leukemia unless the cat is darn near impossible to medicate. The drug is meant for skin conditions and while some vets use it for URIs and UTIs, that is an off label use. I have seen it work for both but I also feel, like most vets, that it does not work nearly as well as oral antibiotics. Any vet will tell you oral meds are stronger and in a cat where a URI can be fatal, I'd always go with the strongest meds available to try to kick it quickly. Not trying to criticize, just trying to help. Good luck and keep us posted!

Amy

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From: Kelley S <moonvine at gmail.com<mailto:moonvine at gmail.com>>
To: felvtalk <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>>
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Coco update

She got the Convenia today.   I asked him about the Winstrol and am going back Monday.  Unfortunately tomorrow is Saturday.  I will get some baby food tomorrow (I don't have a car, so I have to wait for Michelle to drive me:()

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:

Kelley

If she is in the bathroom anyway, run the shower hot, and create a high steam environment. That will help with the URI. I have also used Vicks Vaporub to rub on their chests (yes – it’s messy on their fur, but the smell opens up their nasal passages very well, just like it does with kids). I would urge you not to wait on the Winstrol. This will help build up her strength and appetite, and will start working on the anemia very quickly. She is experiencing all these problems (URI and diarrhea) because she is run down and can not fight off infections, etc.) Ask your vet if he can give a long lasting antibiotic shot like Convenia, so you don’t need to be giving even more orally. Also, I would use pureed baby food – chicken and beef. You can get this into her using a plastic syringe, or she may like it as most of my cats have always liked the taste and take it easily on their own, even if I have to start using syringes. It is easy to digest, full of protein, and a good consistency to syringe if necessary. But I can’t stress enough that you shouldn’t wait on the Winstrol.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley S
Sent: October-02-15 10:05 PM
To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Coco update

My roommate was nice enough to sleep in the bathroom with her.  She woke me and told me we needed to take her to the vet.   She has URI.  She did not have nasal involvement yesterday but today she did.  She did eat 3/4 of a can of AD.  The vet is very concerned.  He did say he felt she was better off with us than in the hospital there as there is no one there at night. But he is very concerned.

Kelley

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