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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jane<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If you are brand new, as in the last few days, then you will not have read my previous posts about Winstrol. Winstrol is an anabolic steroid which I have had
great success with, and it will help with things like the lethargy and the lack of appetite.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Winstrol apparently used to be used rather frequently years ago, until suggestions of liver damage emerged. However, my research shows that any effect on the
liver is usually transient with liver enzymes rising. But once the Winstrol is tapered off, the liver enzymes go back to normal and there is no evidence of lasting damage.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Winstrol is rarely used now, and many vets may not be familiar with it. I believe it must usually be obtained from a compounding pharmacy by your vet.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I will not go into all the detail of what my experience was with Winstrol, but I have found it to be extremely effective for cats with leukemia, as well as many
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jane Gannon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> October-03-15 11:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] Convenia was/Coco update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I am new to the forum and I was wondering if anyone ever had a felv cat that had a fever, was lethargic and not eating well. No other symptoms. If so, how was
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<a href="mailto:awilkins23@yahoo.com" title="awilkins23@yahoo.com">Amy</a> ; <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" title="felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> Saturday, October 03, 2015 8:08 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Amy, I'm with you, but done is done.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">My biggest issue with long lasting drugs like this is that you can't take it back. If there's an adverse reaction, you're stuck with it, and the consequences. I will only use those
if the critter has shown no problems with the drug before (kind of impossible with Convenia, as it doesn't come in another form, but I'd certainly try a short term cephalosporin first) or is feral and cannot be medicated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Some Vets seem to be quite enamoured with Convenia, and give it without asking, for very inappropriate reasons. I have NO CONVENIA on all my charts. Doesn't mean I won't allow it
ever, but this makes them talk to me first...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: Amy <br>
Sent: Oct 3, 2015 8:11 AM <br>
To: "<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>"
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Coco update <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I know people may disagree but I would not suggest doing convenia for a cat with leukemia unless the cat is darn near impossible to
medicate. The drug is meant for skin conditions and while some vets use it for URIs and UTIs, that is an off label use. I have seen it work for both but I also feel, like most vets, that it does not work nearly as well as oral antibiotics. Any vet will tell
you oral meds are stronger and in a cat where a URI can be fatal, I'd always go with the strongest meds available to try to kick it quickly. Not trying to criticize, just trying to help. Good luck and keep us posted!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> felvtalk <<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 2, 2015 11:22 PM<br>
<b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443650979061_72845">Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] Coco update</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">She got the Convenia today. I asked him about the Winstrol and am going back Monday. Unfortunately tomorrow is Saturday. I will get some baby food
tomorrow (I don't have a car, so I have to wait for Michelle to drive me:()<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Amani Oakley <<a href="" target="_blank">aoakley@oakleylegal.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">If she is in the bathroom anyway, run the shower hot, and create a high steam environment. That will help with the URI. I have also
used Vicks Vaporub to rub on their chests (yes – it’s messy on their fur, but the smell opens up their nasal passages very well, just like it does with kids). I would urge you not to wait on the Winstrol. This will help build up her strength and appetite,
and will start working on the anemia very quickly. She is experiencing all these problems (URI and diarrhea) because she is run down and can not fight off infections, etc.) Ask your vet if he can give a long lasting antibiotic shot like Convenia, so you don’t
need to be giving even more orally. Also, I would use pureed baby food – chicken and beef. You can get this into her using a plastic syringe, or she may like it as most of my cats have always liked the taste and take it easily on their own, even if I have
to start using syringes. It is easy to digest, full of protein, and a good consistency to syringe if necessary. But I can’t stress enough that you shouldn’t wait on the Winstrol.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:<a href="" target="_blank">felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Kelley S<br>
<b>Sent:</b> October-02-15 10:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> felvtalk<br>
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have nasal involvement yesterday but today she did. She did eat 3/4 of a can of AD. The vet is very concerned. He did say he felt she was better off with us than in the hospital there as there is no one there at night. But he is very concerned.
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