[Felvtalk] Diarrhea...

[Pam Doore]

Amani, will roundworms aways show up in a fecal?

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:48 AM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Bob
>
> Just as a long shot, consider using Revolution again. I guess I should
> have remembered this, but there is an immature phase of round worms, which
> move through the tissues (sometimes causing eye problems) and into the
> lungs.  During the migration of the immature phase, they move into the
> lungs and causing the cat to cough harshly in order to cough up the
> immature phase, which then gets swallowed down, ending up back in the
> intestines all over again. Using Revolution will kill the mature roundworms
> in the intestines, but not the immature phase. Thus, one needs to use the
> Revolution for several months in order to catch all the worms in their
> various phases. Doxycyline has some negative effect on the immature phase,
> so using both might also assist.
>
> I figured out this issue recently when a cat I had had for more than a
> year, was really losing weight, had very minimal hair growth (sort of
> stubby hair), and kept vomiting up her food. One day, while cleaning up the
> vomit, I noticed an adult round worm in the vomit. I couldn’t figure out
> how my cat would have had worms because I had deflee-ed her when she was
> just a tiny kitten, and treated her with the kitten Revolution. She was
> strictly an indoor cat, as all mine are, so there was no source I could
> figure out for a roundworm infection. I checked it out online, and finally
> understood that she still had a roundworm infection from kittenhood. Her
> sister also had lackluster hair growth. I treated both with Revolution and
> saw an immediate improvement with weight gain and hair growth. However,
> unfortunately, her sister got pregnant, and I also found out that the
> immature stage of the roundworm gets passed down to kittens through
> mother's milk - which must have been how both of them got it in the first
> place since I picked them up when they were only a few days old. Anyway,
> the rest of the mystery was solved because the sister got very sick while
> nursing the kittens - running nose, coughing, temperature, (and again, I
> couldn’t figure out how that could be, given that she wasn’t exposed to any
> new cats). The kittens also got sick, and had this TERRIBLE hacking cough
> and really badly infected eyes which NO topical medication would help, and
> no antibiotic helped UNTIL I tried the Doxycycline.
>
> Everything fell into place for me when I saw the worm in my cat's vomit,
> and did a bit of research.
>
> So, if possible, try Revolution again, and try some Doxycycline and see if
> that leads to any improvement.
>
> Amani
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: February-24-18 12:22 AM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea...
>
> Thank you pam,sandy ,ardy and all who weighed. in. on. the “ runs”....
>  I’m leaning toward this being an autoimmune issue and will ask the
> shelter to have Tommy back to the vet for a better eval... Original
> recommendation was to use an antibiotic more common in livestock and
> aviaries ( tylosin) which was sound but did not take into account that my
> boy won’t eat his food with this foul tasting abx..... I’m reintroducing
> it..now.. but VERY slowly.... After a couple of weeks if I can’t get him to
> a full dose it’s time to change course.... He’s 15 years old and he can’t
> afford to lose weight or get dehydrated....  He’s a foster who was “
> supposed” to be back with his owner well before now....but.... it looks to
> me that these guys are going to be a lifespan placement....
>
>
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:49:03 -0500
> > From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1
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> > *Hi Bob and all,  *
> >
> >
> > *I don't realize I am not seeing posts until someone else mentions
> > about not seeing posts.*
> >
> >
> > *I lost my Ally three days after Christmas.  A little less than a
> > month
> > later I was notified by a parent of one of my students about a
> > 6+-year-old
> > boy who was Fiv+ and FelV+; owner died and was at a shelter in the
> > southern
> > tier of NY.   He is doing well and his name is also Tommy.  I took
> > home a
> > FIV+ older cat (vet through FIV was flaring and I wanted him to have a
> > home
> > and lots of love for whatever time he has.  He is playing, eating, and
> > giving lots of love and demanding lots of love!  He is living in my
> > Master
> > suit while he is being vaccinated against FelV+ and can be with his
> > Sunny
> > and Tommy who are super eager to meet him :).   *
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:37 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> >
> >> Odd that we are getting mail from Dec simply because someone decided
> >> to
> >> unsubscribe....
> >>
> >> Presuming there has not been much activity in the list for a few
> >> months
> >> ???   I am happy to report that my shelter had not received any FELV+
> >> for a
> >> few months and just recently received 6... upon retesting,
> >> mercifully, so
> >> far only one has come up positive ( sadly the youngest and cutest of
> >> the
> >> bunch) quessing the others had been older when they had their
> >> exposure....
> >> Think we might already have a place that will give a home to this
> >> cutie....
> >> unfortunately not a family... but better than having the little guy
> >> in
> >> isolation here at our shelter..... He needs company....
> >>
> >> Hope all is well with your Kitties.... my two old guys are doing
> >> pretty
> >> well..... Tommy had 5 teeth extracted and it gave him a new lease on
> >> life..... He's MUCH more active and happy and FATTER.... Jerry is
> >> still
> >> suffering his chronic diarrhea and we are still looking for ways to
> >> control
> >> it ( all the usual NON medicine interventions have failed so far.....
> >>
> >> Bob in Warwick NY
> >>
> >>
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> > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:21:24 -0600
> > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest,
> > Vol 44, Issue 1
> > Message-ID: <000a01d3ac55$63570000$2a050000$@centurytel.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > If all else has failed to cure Jerry's diarrhea, you might try an
> > extremely old remedy that was used on humans back in the 1930's. They
> > used a cast iron frying pan and burned flour in it. I don't think they
> > used any oil of any kind - just the flour and possibly a small amount
> > of water, and just stir it until it browns and sort of burns. Then get
> > him to eat a small amount. Apparently this was given to babies who had
> > life-threatening diarrhea when nothing else worked.
> >
> > I suppose though, if you can't get it stopped, it might be something
> > like a parasite causing it? Not sure....just trying to help ?
> >
> >
> > Ardy
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> > Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:37 PM
> > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1
> >
> >
> > Odd that we are getting mail from Dec simply because someone decided
> > to unsubscribe....
> >
> >
> > Presuming there has not been much activity in the list for a few
> > months ???   I am happy to report that my shelter had not received any
> > FELV+ for a few months and just recently received 6... upon retesting,
> > mercifully, so far only one has come up positive ( sadly the youngest
> > and cutest of the bunch) quessing the others had been older when they
> > had their exposure....  Think we might already have a place that will
> > give a home to this cutie.... unfortunately not a family... but better
> > than having the little guy in isolation here at our shelter..... He
> > needs company....
> >
> >
> > Hope all is well with your Kitties.... my two old guys are doing
> > pretty well..... Tommy had 5 teeth extracted and it gave him a new
> > lease on life..... He's MUCH more active and happy and FATTER....
> > Jerry is still suffering his chronic diarrhea and we are still looking
> > for ways to control it ( all the usual NON medicine interventions have
> > failed so far.....
> >
> >
> > Bob in Warwick NY
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 06:28 PM,
> > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org
> >
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> >>
> >
> >>    1. Re: FIV (ROBERT CHAPEL)
> >
> >>    2. Re: FIV (Amani Oakley)
> >
> >>    3. Re: FIV (Lorrie)
> >
> >>    4. Re: FIV (  dlgegg at windstream.net)
> >
> >>    5. Merry Christmas & Happy Anniversary wishes (Jennifer Olson)
> >
> >>    6. Unsubscribe me please (  wlrd2012 at xplornet.com)
> >
> >>    7. not receiving e-mails (Sandy)
> >
> >>    8. Re: not receiving e-mails (Lorrie)
> >
> >>
> >
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> >
> >> Message: 1
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 21:48:56 -0500 (EST)
> >
> >> From: ROBERT CHAPEL To:   felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV
> >
> >> Message-ID: <  153d54b2.3346.16095df6e39.Webtop.34 at optonline.net>
> >
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I am again perplexed at the mail delivery for this group....? I've
> >
> >> gotten nothing for a few weeks and just now THIS digest of
> >
> >> messages..ALL of which I have received multiple times before.
> >
> >> Has there been other information going back and forth for the past
> >
> >> couple of weeks??
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> HOWEVER:? In relation to FIV...?? it has clearly NOT been our
> >
> >> experience at the shelter where I volunteer that FIV is any where
> >> near
> >
> >> as deadly as FELV and we don't ever suggest that it is to potential
> >
> >> adopters...
> >
> >> Our FIV'S range in age from 1 year to 8 yrs plus and oftentimes don't
> >
> >> even get the URI that runs through the entire menagerie at the
> >
> >> beginning of Winter.... I've been volunteering there for 4 years and
> >
> >> have seen only one of our FIV's die and that from the scourge of
> >> FIV's
> >
> >> ( Feline Infectious Peritonitis) thankfully it did not claim any
> >
> >> others ( until months later when a couple of FeLV residents died)...
> >
> >> but, in general, our FIV's have remained quite healthy....?
> >
> >> Personally, I would be FAR more confident of the future adopting an
> >
> >> FIV over an FeLV Kitty
> >
> >> QUESTION:
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >> ?---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >> -
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Message: 1
> >
> >>> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:25:58 +0000
> >
> >>> From: Amani Oakley To: "  felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re:
> >
> >>> [Felvtalk] Question
> >
> >>> Message-ID:
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for
> >
> >>> afflicted cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary
> >
> >>> arsenal to combat it.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Amani
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> ------------------------------
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Message: 2
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 04:07:39 +0000
> >
> >> From: Amani Oakley To: "  felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re:
> >
> >> [Felvtalk] FIV
> >
> >> Message-ID:
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Hi Bob
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I have only seen two other posts this past week, other than one I
> >
> >> posted in reply to one of those two posts. Other than that, I haven't
> >
> >> received any emails in weeks.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Amani
> >
> >>
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >
> >> From: Felvtalk [  mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On
> >> Behalf
> >
> >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> >
> >> Sent: December-26-17 9:49 PM
> >
> >> To:   felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I am again perplexed at the mail delivery for this group....? I've
> >
> >> gotten nothing for a few weeks and just now THIS digest of
> >
> >> messages..ALL of which I have received multiple times before.
> >
> >> Has there been other information going back and forth for the past
> >
> >> couple of weeks??
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> HOWEVER:? In relation to FIV...?? it has clearly NOT been our
> >
> >> experience at the shelter where I volunteer that FIV is any where
> >> near
> >
> >> as deadly as FELV and we don't ever suggest that it is to potential
> >
> >> adopters...
> >
> >> Our FIV'S range in age from 1 year to 8 yrs plus and oftentimes don't
> >
> >> even get the URI that runs through the entire menagerie at the
> >
> >> beginning of Winter.... I've been volunteering there for 4 years and
> >
> >> have seen only one of our FIV's die and that from the scourge of
> >> FIV's
> >
> >> ( Feline Infectious Peritonitis) thankfully it did not claim any
> >
> >> others ( until months later when a couple of FeLV residents died)...
> >
> >> but, in general, our FIV's have remained quite healthy....?
> >
> >> Personally, I would be FAR more confident of the future adopting an
> >
> >> FIV over an FeLV Kitty
> >
> >> QUESTION:
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >> ?---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >> -
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Message: 1
> >
> >>> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:25:58 +0000
> >
> >>> From: Amani Oakley To: "  felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re:
> >
> >>> [Felvtalk] Question
> >
> >>> Message-ID:
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for
> >
> >>> afflicted cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary
> >
> >>> arsenal to combat it.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Amani
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
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> >
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> >> ------------------------------
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> >>
> >
> >> Message: 3
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 09:33:47 -0500
> >
> >> From: Lorrie To:   felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV
> >
> >> Message-ID: <  20171227143347.GA816 at lnx12.netgear.com>
> >
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I've not seen any posts for weeks, until a few days ago.
> >
> >> I hope this means all our cats are doing well.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> BTW - FIV is not at all as dangerous a FelV.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I hope more people adopt these FIV cats, but unfortunately the
> >> average
> >
> >> person, who is not well informed, is is just as afraid of FIV.
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Lorrie
> >
> >>
> >
> >> On 12-27, Amani Oakley wrote:
> >
> >>> Hi Bob
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> I have only seen two other posts this past week, other than one I
> >
> >>> posted in reply to one of those two posts. Other than that, I
> >>> haven't
> >
> >>> received any emails in weeks.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Amani
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> ------------------------------
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Message: 4
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 8:41:54 -0600
> >
> >> From: To:   felvtalk at felineleukemia.org,   felinerescue at frontier.com
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV
> >
> >> Message-ID: <  20171227094154.PXG7R.4017.root at pamxwww01-z01>
> >
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> >>
> >
> >> tHE ONLY PROBLEM MY GUYS HAVE IS BOREDOM.  iT HAS BEEN COLD, SNOWY
> >> AND
> >
> >> WINDY.  HARLEY WHO USUALLY GOES OUT NO MATTER WHAT JUST GOES TO THE
> >
> >> DOOR, THE WIND HITS HIM AND HE BACKS UP.  WE HAVE LOTS OF AMAZON
> >
> >> BOXES, TUNNELS AND A LIGHT TO CHASE.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> ---- Lorrie  wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> I've not seen any posts for weeks, until a few days ago.
> >
> >>> I hope this means all our cats are doing well.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> BTW - FIV is not at all as dangerous a FelV.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> I hope more people adopt these FIV cats, but unfortunately the
> >
> >>> average person, who is not well informed, is is just as afraid of
> >
> >>> FIV.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Lorrie
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> On 12-27, Amani Oakley wrote:
> >
> >>>> Hi Bob
> >
> >>>>
> >
> >>>> I have only seen two other posts this past week, other than one I
> >
> >>>> posted in reply to one of those two posts. Other than that, I
> >
> >>>> haven't received any emails in weeks.
> >
> >>>>
> >
> >>>> Amani
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >
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> >>> g
> >
> >>
> >
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> >
> >> Message: 5
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 09:04:15 -0600
> >
> >> From: Jennifer Olson To:   felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >
> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Merry Christmas & Happy Anniversary wishes
> >
> >> Message-ID:
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> >>
> >
> >> December 22nd marked the beginning of our 2nd yr with Figaro in our
> >
> >> lives.
> >
> >> He is healthy, but a bit heavy- the kind of weight gain common after
> >
> >> being neutered. Have yet to get him integrated into the clan, so each
> >
> >> of us "bipedals" lavish Figaro with various kinds of attention... of
> >
> >> course I'M the "Mama" so Figaro and I do lots of grooming & cuddling!
> >
> >> Much admiration goes out to all of you, whose loving strength
> >> enriches
> >
> >> the lives of precious fur-babies, for as long as we are able!
> >
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> >> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 21:31:09 +0000
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> >> From:   wlrd2012 at xplornet.com
> >
> >> To:   Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >
> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Unsubscribe me please
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> >> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:01:55 -0500 (EST)
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> >> From: Sandy To:   felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >
> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] not receiving e-mails
> >
> >> Message-ID: <  1042579679.26184.1519250515437 at connect.xfinity.com>
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> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> >>
> >
> >> Looks like I have not received any e-mail contact since November
> >> 2017.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Sandy W
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> >> Message: 8
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> >> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:28:44 -0500
> >
> >> From: Lorrie To: Sandy ,   felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] not receiving e-mails
> >
> >> Message-ID: <  20180221232844.GA885 at lnx12.netgear.com>
> >
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Hi Sandy, I noticed the total lack of messages...... Hopefully this
> >
> >> means none of us are having any problems with our cats at this time.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Lorrie
> >
> >>
> >
> >> On 02-21, Sandy wrote:
> >
> >>> Looks like I have not received any e-mail contact since November
> >
> >>> 2017.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Sandy W
> >
> >>> _______________________________________________
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