[Felvtalk] Diarrhea...

Fri Feb 23 23:21:43 CST 2018

Thank you pam,sandy ,ardy and all who weighed. in. on. the “ runs”.... 
 I’m leaning toward this being an autoimmune issue and will ask the 
shelter to have Tommy back to the vet for a better eval... Original 
recommendation was to use an antibiotic more common in livestock and 
aviaries ( tylosin) which was sound but did not take into account that 
my boy won’t eat his food with this foul tasting abx..... I’m 
reintroducing it..now.. but VERY slowly.... After a couple of weeks if I 
can’t get him to a full dose it’s time to change course.... He’s 15 
years old and he can’t afford to lose weight or get dehydrated....  He’s 
a foster who was “ supposed” to be back with his owner well before 
now....but.... it looks to me that these guys are going to be a lifespan 
placement....

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> *Hi Bob and all,  *
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> *I don't realize I am not seeing posts until someone else mentions 
> about
> not seeing posts.*
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> *I lost my Ally three days after Christmas.  A little less than a 
> month
> later I was notified by a parent of one of my students about a 
> 6+-year-old
> boy who was Fiv+ and FelV+; owner died and was at a shelter in the 
> southern
> tier of NY.   He is doing well and his name is also Tommy.  I took 
> home a
> FIV+ older cat (vet through FIV was flaring and I wanted him to have a 
> home
> and lots of love for whatever time he has.  He is playing, eating, and
> giving lots of love and demanding lots of love!  He is living in my 
> Master
> suit while he is being vaccinated against FelV+ and can be with his 
> Sunny
> and Tommy who are super eager to meet him :).   *
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> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:37 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
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>> Odd that we are getting mail from Dec simply because someone decided 
>> to
>> unsubscribe....
>>
>> Presuming there has not been much activity in the list for a few 
>> months
>> ???   I am happy to report that my shelter had not received any FELV+ 
>> for a
>> few months and just recently received 6... upon retesting, 
>> mercifully, so
>> far only one has come up positive ( sadly the youngest and cutest of 
>> the
>> bunch) quessing the others had been older when they had their 
>> exposure....
>> Think we might already have a place that will give a home to this 
>> cutie....
>> unfortunately not a family... but better than having the little guy 
>> in
>> isolation here at our shelter..... He needs company....
>>
>> Hope all is well with your Kitties.... my two old guys are doing 
>> pretty
>> well..... Tommy had 5 teeth extracted and it gave him a new lease on
>> life..... He's MUCH more active and happy and FATTER.... Jerry is 
>> still
>> suffering his chronic diarrhea and we are still looking for ways to 
>> control
>> it ( all the usual NON medicine interventions have failed so far.....
>>
>> Bob in Warwick NY
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> Hi Bob,
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> If all else has failed to cure Jerry's diarrhea, you might try an 
> extremely old remedy that was used on humans back in the 1930's. They 
> used a cast iron frying pan and burned flour in it. I don't think they 
> used any oil of any kind - just the flour and possibly a small amount 
> of water, and just stir it until it browns and sort of burns. Then get 
> him to eat a small amount. Apparently this was given to babies who had 
> life-threatening diarrhea when nothing else worked.
>
> I suppose though, if you can't get it stopped, it might be something 
> like a parasite causing it? Not sure....just trying to help ?
>
>
> Ardy
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> -----Original Message-----
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>
> Odd that we are getting mail from Dec simply because someone decided 
> to unsubscribe....
>
>
> Presuming there has not been much activity in the list for a few 
> months ???   I am happy to report that my shelter had not received any 
> FELV+ for a few months and just recently received 6... upon retesting, 
> mercifully, so far only one has come up positive ( sadly the youngest 
> and cutest of the bunch) quessing the others had been older when they 
> had their exposure....  Think we might already have a place that will 
> give a home to this cutie.... unfortunately not a family... but better 
> than having the little guy in isolation here at our shelter..... He 
> needs company....
>
>
> Hope all is well with your Kitties.... my two old guys are doing 
> pretty well..... Tommy had 5 teeth extracted and it gave him a new 
> lease on life..... He's MUCH more active and happy and FATTER.... 
> Jerry is still suffering his chronic diarrhea and we are still looking 
> for ways to control it ( all the usual NON medicine interventions have 
> failed so far.....
>
>
> Bob in Warwick NY
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 21:48:56 -0500 (EST)
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>> From: ROBERT CHAPEL To:   felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV
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>> I am again perplexed at the mail delivery for this group....? I've
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>> gotten nothing for a few weeks and just now THIS digest of
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>> messages..ALL of which I have received multiple times before.
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>> Has there been other information going back and forth for the past
>
>> couple of weeks??
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> HOWEVER:? In relation to FIV...?? it has clearly NOT been our
>
>> experience at the shelter where I volunteer that FIV is any where 
>> near
>
>> as deadly as FELV and we don't ever suggest that it is to potential
>
>> adopters...
>
>> Our FIV'S range in age from 1 year to 8 yrs plus and oftentimes don't
>
>> even get the URI that runs through the entire menagerie at the
>
>> beginning of Winter.... I've been volunteering there for 4 years and
>
>> have seen only one of our FIV's die and that from the scourge of 
>> FIV's
>
>> ( Feline Infectious Peritonitis) thankfully it did not claim any
>
>> others ( until months later when a couple of FeLV residents died)...
>
>> but, in general, our FIV's have remained quite healthy....?
>
>> Personally, I would be FAR more confident of the future adopting an
>
>> FIV over an FeLV Kitty
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>> QUESTION:
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>>> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:25:58 +0000
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>>> From: Amani Oakley To: "  felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re:
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>>> [Felvtalk] Question
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>>> Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for
>
>>> afflicted cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary
>
>>> arsenal to combat it.
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>>>
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>>> Amani
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>> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 04:07:39 +0000
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>> From: Amani Oakley To: "  felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re:
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>> [Felvtalk] FIV
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>> Hi Bob
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>>
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>> I have only seen two other posts this past week, other than one I
>
>> posted in reply to one of those two posts. Other than that, I haven't
>
>> received any emails in weeks.
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>>
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>> Amani
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: Felvtalk [  mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On 
>> Behalf
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>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
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>> Sent: December-26-17 9:49 PM
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>> To:   felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV
>
>>
>
>> I am again perplexed at the mail delivery for this group....? I've
>
>> gotten nothing for a few weeks and just now THIS digest of
>
>> messages..ALL of which I have received multiple times before.
>
>> Has there been other information going back and forth for the past
>
>> couple of weeks??
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> HOWEVER:? In relation to FIV...?? it has clearly NOT been our
>
>> experience at the shelter where I volunteer that FIV is any where 
>> near
>
>> as deadly as FELV and we don't ever suggest that it is to potential
>
>> adopters...
>
>> Our FIV'S range in age from 1 year to 8 yrs plus and oftentimes don't
>
>> even get the URI that runs through the entire menagerie at the
>
>> beginning of Winter.... I've been volunteering there for 4 years and
>
>> have seen only one of our FIV's die and that from the scourge of 
>> FIV's
>
>> ( Feline Infectious Peritonitis) thankfully it did not claim any
>
>> others ( until months later when a couple of FeLV residents died)...
>
>> but, in general, our FIV's have remained quite healthy....?
>
>> Personally, I would be FAR more confident of the future adopting an
>
>> FIV over an FeLV Kitty
>
>> QUESTION:
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> 
>> ?---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> -
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>>>
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>>> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:25:58 +0000
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>>> [Felvtalk] Question
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>>> Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for
>
>>> afflicted cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary
>
>>> arsenal to combat it.
>
>>>
>
>>> Amani
>
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>> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 09:33:47 -0500
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>> From: Lorrie To:   felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV
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>> I've not seen any posts for weeks, until a few days ago.
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>> I hope this means all our cats are doing well.
>
>>
>
>> BTW - FIV is not at all as dangerous a FelV.
>
>>
>
>> I hope more people adopt these FIV cats, but unfortunately the 
>> average
>
>> person, who is not well informed, is is just as afraid of FIV.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Lorrie
>
>>
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>> On 12-27, Amani Oakley wrote:
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>>> Hi Bob
>
>>>
>
>>> I have only seen two other posts this past week, other than one I
>
>>> posted in reply to one of those two posts. Other than that, I 
>>> haven't
>
>>> received any emails in weeks.
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>>>
>
>>> Amani
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>> Message: 4
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>> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 8:41:54 -0600
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>> From: To:   felvtalk at felineleukemia.org,   felinerescue at frontier.com
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>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV
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>> Message-ID: <  20171227094154.PXG7R.4017.root at pamxwww01-z01>
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>> tHE ONLY PROBLEM MY GUYS HAVE IS BOREDOM.  iT HAS BEEN COLD, SNOWY 
>> AND
>
>> WINDY.  HARLEY WHO USUALLY GOES OUT NO MATTER WHAT JUST GOES TO THE
>
>> DOOR, THE WIND HITS HIM AND HE BACKS UP.  WE HAVE LOTS OF AMAZON
>
>> BOXES, TUNNELS AND A LIGHT TO CHASE.
>
>>
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>> ---- Lorrie  wrote:
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>>>
>
>>> I've not seen any posts for weeks, until a few days ago.
>
>>> I hope this means all our cats are doing well.
>
>>>
>
>>> BTW - FIV is not at all as dangerous a FelV.
>
>>>
>
>>> I hope more people adopt these FIV cats, but unfortunately the
>
>>> average person, who is not well informed, is is just as afraid of
>
>>> FIV.
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>> Lorrie
>
>>>
>
>>> On 12-27, Amani Oakley wrote:
>
>>>> Hi Bob
>
>>>>
>
>>>> I have only seen two other posts this past week, other than one I
>
>>>> posted in reply to one of those two posts. Other than that, I
>
>>>> haven't received any emails in weeks.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Amani
>
>>>
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>> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 09:04:15 -0600
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>> From: Jennifer Olson To:   felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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>> December 22nd marked the beginning of our 2nd yr with Figaro in our
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>> He is healthy, but a bit heavy- the kind of weight gain common after
>
>> being neutered. Have yet to get him integrated into the clan, so each
>
>> of us "bipedals" lavish Figaro with various kinds of attention... of
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>> course I'M the "Mama" so Figaro and I do lots of grooming & cuddling!
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>> Hi Sandy, I noticed the total lack of messages...... Hopefully this
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>> means none of us are having any problems with our cats at this time.
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>> Lorrie
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>> On 02-21, Sandy wrote:
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