[Felvtalk] Curly...

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

Randy....

I am SO happy to hear that Curly had a very positive response to 
Mirtazapine.... albeit FAR in excess of anything I saw with my 
Yogi.....  Nothing makes us happier here than to hear positive stories 
about FeLV kitties responding positively to treatment...... I feel happy 
for the Cats and even more so for the caretakers who are so obviously 
committed to their pets....  a welcome relief from the stories I hear 
daily about people who won't do even the simplest things to assure the 
welfare of their charges......
Actually... being short on cash...I often feel quite badly seeing the 
kind of money people are spending on their cats and feeling a measure of 
conflict when I consider how many people really CAN'T afford to take a 
FeLV cat home.....  You can't purchase insurance for them which means a 
LOT of cash outlay for Vet bills if you happen to have a Kitty that 
starts to get sick early on....  The more expensive vet care gets the 
fewer can afford pets if the are of modest means.....  This is bad for 
the many thousands of pets awaiting homes in shelters and PARTICULARLY 
bad for the adoption odds of FeLV and and FIV cats.
Please keep us up to date on Curlys' progress!!!


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> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:11:42 +0000 (UTC)
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> Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator and FeLV
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> Hi, I have a 7 month old kitten that I am considering starting the 
> T-Cell injections for him. He is presenting with possible IBD right 
> now or GI Lymphoma. I am wondering if anyone has had cat/kitten with 
> similar symptoms and has used the Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator 
> injections? Also wondering if anyone has had a FeLV+ cat with 
> confirmed (thru ultrasound) thickened intestinal walls and if you've 
> done intestinal biopsy to determine IBD or GI Lymphoma. Thank you, 
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> From: "Patti B." To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections ??
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> Hi, I have a 7 month old kitten, Joe.........had an eye enucleation in 
> Sept. tested NEG-FELV. But.due to lethargy and the eye removal site 
> not looking right.I took him to my REGULAR vet. He has now tested 
> POSITIVE-FELV and is extremely anemic. He is eating well and drinking. 
> Getting laser on eye surgical site, BUT I would love to to try the 
> LTCI injections for him. Has anyone here tried them ?
> Thanks, Patti
> "The fate of animals is of greater importance to me than the fear of 
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> From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: 
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> Hi Debbie
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> I tried them for several months, and tested blood work weekly. I 
> didn?t find the injections budged the low red 
> cell/haematocrit/retic/platelet counts at all. However, I recall 
> others in this group who have reported better results.
>
> Are you new to the group? I don?t want to jump in with my experiences 
> with Winstrol if you have heard it all before.
>
> Amani
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> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of debbie.kanda at comcast.net
> Sent: January-19-17 3:12 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator and FeLV
>
> Hi,
> I have a 7 month old kitten that I am considering starting the T-Cell 
> injections for him.  He is presenting with possible IBD right now or 
> GI Lymphoma.  I am wondering if anyone has had cat/kitten with similar 
> symptoms and has used the Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator 
> injections?  Also wondering if anyone has had a FeLV+ cat with 
> confirmed (thru ultrasound) thickened intestinal walls and if you've 
> done intestinal biopsy to determine IBD or GI Lymphoma.
> Thank you,
> Debbie K.
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> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 23:43:19 +0000
> From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: 
> [Felvtalk] LTCI injections ??
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> Hi Patti
>
> See my response to Debbie, who just posted earlier today, with a 
> similar question.
>
> Amani
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Patti B.
> Sent: January-19-17 4:49 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections ??
>
> Hi,
> I have a 7 month old kitten, Joe.........had an eye enucleation in 
> Sept. tested NEG-FELV.  But.due to lethargy and the eye removal site 
> not looking right.I took him to my REGULAR vet.  He has now tested 
> POSITIVE-FELV and is extremely anemic.  He is eating well and 
> drinking.  Getting laser on eye surgical site, BUT I would love to to 
> try the LTCI injections for him.  Has anyone here tried them ?
>
> Thanks,
> Patti
>
> "The fate of animals is of greater importance to me
> than the fear of appearing ridiculous;
> it is indissolubly connected with the fate of men."
>
> - Emile Zola (1840-1902)
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> From: Randy Henke To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual improvement
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> It has been a little over a month ago that I asked for advice on this 
> forum
> for our little girl, Curly.
>
> At that point, I had little hope. She was so lethargic and her 
> hematocrit
> had dipped to a critical 9%. I took everyone's advice, especially 
> Amani's,
> and asked our vet for Predisolone, Winstrol and Doxycycline.
>
> According to her latest CBC two weeks ago, she is still a very sick 
> kitty
> but her hematocrit rebounded to 15% which I know is still very low. 
> All
> other numbers are improving slowly as well. That was after less than 
> three
> weeks of treatment.
>
> She is due for another CBC next Tuesday and I am hopeful we will see 
> more
> improvement. I've noticed her gums are more pink which I believe is a 
> good
> sign.
>
> We were still having problems with getting her to eat. She would have 
> her
> good days and her bad days but her weight was still creeping down. 
> Last
> week I asked our vet about Mirtazapine and our vet agreed to give us a
> prescription for it. I have to thank Robert for mentioning this in one 
> of
> his posts.
>
> One day last week she didn't want to eat so I gave her a quarter pill 
> (3.75
> mg) which is the dose our vet prescribed to give her daily. The result 
> was
> phenomenal and almost a little scary. She was bouncing off the walls 
> within
> a few hours and eating everything she could get her paws on. I almost 
> felt
> a little sorry for her because it was like she couldn't sit still for 
> more
> than a couple of minutes. But it was like getting our old Curly back 
> again
> in just a single day!
>
> The effect tapered off after a couple of days and we didn't feel
> comfortable giving her another dose until she stopped eating again 
> because
> of how dramatic the change was. I've read online that a smaller dose 
> could
> be effective if given every 72 hours so we are going to try doing that 
> so
> she keeps eating. It was incredible to see her weight go up by a 
> quarter
> pound in just a couple of days.
>
> We are continuing the Prednisolone and Winstrol at the recommended 
> doses
> but our two week Doxycycline prescription ran out over a week ago. She 
> does
> appear to still be making improvement without it but I'm wondering if 
> I
> should ask for another prescription to keep that going as well.
>
> I always worry about giving her the quarter pill of Doxy because I 
> know it
> can cause esophageal damage if it isn't followed by liquids. I was
> following the pill with the liquid Winstrol solution but wasn't sure 
> if
> that was enough.
>
> Many thanks to everyone who gave us advice. It looks like we might 
> have our
> Curly back for at least a while yet and it's all because of you 
> people.
>
> Randy
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