[Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

[dlgegg at windstream.net]

I will go for that!!!!!!!!!!!
It is the same for human doctors, they are perfectly willing to prescriba a medication that lawyers are already sing but refuse to try a homepatic medicine or accupuncture.  Insurance companies are just as bad.  If I ever have to go to hospital again, I am going to pack a bag of my creams, ginger, turmeric, cinammon and garlic.  Won't tel them what they are and take them on the sly.  Also, don't go to a hospital that is adding on floors.  You get jack hammers going all day and then when you have problems relaxing, offer a pill to relax you.  If you say you have any pain, thay try to chuck morphine down you .  Then you get addicted.  My Arnica cream does the job with NO SIDE EFFECTS.  mY GINGER, TURMERIC GARLIC, ETC. KEEPS INFECTIONS AT BAY AND NO SIDE EFFECTS.


---- Ardy Robertson <ardyr at centurytel.net> wrote: 
> I am blown away that they are perfectly willing and eager to put the cat to
> sleep but not willing to try the doxycycline that will block the virus from
> replicating. We fight for our kitties' lives and have to also fight the vets
> to get the medicine they need, and we have to tread lightly when we find a
> vet willing to prescribe the Winstrol that they need. I wish we could just
> buy it over the counter.
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> Ardy
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> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 4:53 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol
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> Thanks Amani. 
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> I called the vets office right after I read what you wrote below and asked
> again for the Doxycycline and he insisted she did not need it. I am just
> going to have to hope that Bogey continues to get better on the regiment we
> are on. I feel very thankful for my vet that he prescribing the Winstrol. I
> hope it is enough.
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> Your boy Zander must have been one strong cat to recover from how sick he
> was. It sounds like you really monitored him and gave him the best
> treatment. Your advise and knowledge of this awful disease and the benefits
> and pitfalls of trying to treat it is invaluable to all of us who are caring
> for these lovely creatures.
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> I read this messaging board and feel so bad that cat owners who desperately
> need this drug cannot get it. I believe without a doubt that as fast as
> Bogey's counts were dropping, she would probably not still be with me today
> without it. I am sure the stigma attached to it keeps a lot of vets from
> prescribing it or maybe they are just uneducated about it. My other vet
> wouldn't even discuss a transfusion as she was certain that nothing could
> help us for very long. She was quite intent on me putting this cat down and
> just wanted to wash her hands of us it seemed. So the stigma isn't just
> about this treatment, it is around the disease itself. Her statement "There
> are plenty of other healthy cats that need good homes" is proof enough of
> that.
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> How frustrating for all of us. 
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> Thank you again for your insight.
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> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org
> <mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> > on behalf of Amani Oakley
> <aoakley at oakleylegal.com <mailto:aoakley at oakleylegal.com> >
> Reply-To: <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
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> Date: Friday, September 30, 2016 at 2:29 PM
> To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> "
> <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol
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> Hi Sherri
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> Keep up with the bloodwork. Good for you. Because I did Zander's bloodwork
> weekly, I was able to watch his counts very carefully as well, and this is
> why I am so firm on what I saw that worked and what I saw that didn't work.
> Keeping a close eye on the bloodwork will help you immediately point to the
> effects of the medication, and I am sure that the stall you got on the
> improvement of the bloodwork is solely because he removed her off the
> Winstrol. I saw this drop or stagnation every time I even tried to wean
> Zander down from 2 mg a day to 1 mg a day, for the first 10 months, but I
> was starting at much worse blood results than you were. Zander's haematocrit
> was 10 when I started the Winstrol.
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> Interesting about your vet's background. That may well explain his openness
> to using Winstrol where so many others refuse. Those in athletics are well
> aware of the amazing body building, muscle building, strength building
> properties of Winstrol, and the fact that the rumoured side-effects are very
> very exaggerated - probably to try and scare off athletes from using the
> stuff. Once you use it, you find out it really doesn't have all those
> terrible side effects, and it makes a real difference to improving body
> strength. That is why I have come to the conclusion that, very sadly, we are
> being denied access to Winstrol, not because it doesn't work or because it
> has bad side effects, but because in the media it is BAD to take steroids if
> you are an athlete. Why that should affect cats, or elderly people with
> osteoporosis for that matter, is way way beyond me and very frustrating.
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> With respect to the platelets, my concern remains that the low platelet
> count and the high lymphocyte count show that the virus is still actively
> attacking cells. My theory is that while the Winstrol is working to build up
> bone marrow and allow it to regenerate the lost red cells, the virus is
> still attacking. That is why I believe that the Winstrol on its own will not
> be enough, and you need to double-team the virus with the Doxycycline on the
> one side, interfering with the ability of the virus to reproduce and the
> Winstrol on the other hand, working to repair some of the damage caused by
> the virus.
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> I don't think there is anything that directly will give you a boost on the
> platelets, and my concern is that when the platelets drop so low, you have a
> real risk of internal bleeding. I don't know what else to suggest.
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> Amani
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> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: September-30-16 2:11 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol
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