[Felvtalk] to Sandy and Rachel

ROBERT CHAPEL bchapel at optonline.net
Thu May 19 11:16:55 CDT 2016


Thank you for the input...  
 
 
 On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:11 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org 
wrote:
 
Sandy:.....Currently using a combination Neomycin, Polymixin B Sulfates 
with Dexamethasone
Provided to me by the shelter.....  I have an informal " deal " with 
them to provide Vet services
and meds if I either can't afford them or it's a simple matter easily 
resolved by the Shelter consultant vet.
They realize that the two kitties I adopted would be there , quite 
possibly, for life had I not adopted them and I am saving them space and 
expense...  The problem is that I don't get to speak directly to 
whatever vet they will send my guys to and therefore do not have any say 
in what is done or prescribed....  THAT is why I took Yogi to a private 
vet on my own the other day....   She did not recommend any treatment 
for the eye... and now that it has moved to the other as well I don't 
know if her opinion will change.....   I have only a very beginning 
relationship with this hospital as I have not had pets for a while and 
do not have a regular vet.... It's going to take several more visits 
before I am a known quantity who is not regarded as " off the wall" if I 
suggest things that no one else is doing...

Rachel:   I am thinking that I will try the mirtazapine another day or 
two... but if he gets worse by tomorrow I am going to stop it as this is 
the ONLY change that I have made to his usual regimen....  I am VERY 
perplexed at what is going on with him ...    Again... I am only 
learning about FeLV now as I am new to both the disease and shelter 
volunteering....   I will syringe feed if need be...  Only for a day has 
he indicated a lack of desire for food...if I don't see poop in the box 
I'll supplement...    Honestly... I had no idea that I would be getting 
into this level of worry and concern when I adopted these guys.... I was 
"sort of " misled by the tech at the shelter that they would be OK for a 
while and then likely succumb to serious disease in a year or two....    
I am learning quite different now....   I still would have done it but I 
would have been more emotionally prepared had I known how chronically 
ill they could possibly  be....

thanks... 



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> Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 10:46:13 -0400
> From: "swacht" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol/Doxy Dosages
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> Bob, Has Tobramycin been tried for the eyes??
> Sandy W
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> -----Original Message----- From: Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:34 AM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol/Doxy Dosages
>
> I think you need to try to syringe feed the way I mentioned to you, no
> matter what you do with the other medications (I would maybe give the 
> meds
> you have a few more days if it were me). You can't let him them go 
> without
> eating for too long. Have you tried the eye wash? I would maybe use 
> this
> each time before you do the eye meds to wash out any gunk. You could 
> do this
> with the towel method on the counter, just like the syringe feeding.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of
> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:16 AM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol/Doxy Dosages
>
> After getting a "clean" bill of Health for my Yogi ( ie.. good blood 
> results
> and no obvious ills beyond the blood in his eye) a day and a half 
> later he
> is not eating( despite the addition of mirtazapine 1/8 of a 15mg tab 
> )when
> he WAS eating before and his eye issue has moved to the right eye as 
> well)
> Vet initially offered only ( Anything can happen to FeLV+
> cats) and no guidance for any kind of TX Others on the group have 
> suggested
> uveitis ( and symptoms are consistent with this)... that said...  I 
> have
> never been sure of the dosages being used with winstrol and Doxy.... 
> Those
> of you who are using this
> protocol: are you giving it according to weight ( X mg per lb) ? 
> This
> would make the most sense to me...
> I get the impression that 1mg 2x a day is common...yes??  How about 
> the
> Doxy??    Don't know that this vet will go for it but there is no harm 
> in
> asking... She's not offering anything beyond " love him and feed him
> well"...   Great idea if he would eat...  This was NOT a big problem 
> until
> yesterday..AFTER the administration of the appetite Stimulant.. As 
> this is
> the only change in his regimen I think it wise to DC the mirtazapine 
> for the
> present ( opinions??) Thanks for any input...
>
> Bob
> Warwick NY
>
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>> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 22:20:46 -0500
>> From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
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>> Thanks Kat ? I did not realize that?.but like you, I was curious :)
>>
>>
>> Ardy
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>> Of kat
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:24 AM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
>>
>>
>> Ardy,
>>
>>
>> The email you are referencing was TO Lorrie - it was FROM Amy who 
>> said
>> "So far, most of the ones we have taken in have converted after some
>> time."  But like you, I would like to know what her protocol has been
>> to be so successful.
>>
>>
>> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 11:28 PM
>> From: "Ardy Robertson"  >
>> To: 'Amy'  >, felvtalk at felineleukemia.org  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 
>> Cat
>> Sanctuary
>>
>> Hi Lorrie ? if you don?t mind me asking, what do you mean by ?most
>> cats you have taken in have converted after some time?? Does that 
>> mean
>> they no longer have FeLV, and if so, what do you attribute that to?
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Ardy
>>
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>> Of Amy
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 10:31 AM
>> To: felinerescue at frontier.com  ; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org 
>> Subject:
>> Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
>>
>>
>> Lorrie,
>>
>>
>> That sounds amazing! I do cat rescue in Rochester, NY and we are a
>> no-kill rescue so when we get in leuk pos kitties, we do our best to
>> find places for them to go. We don't euthanize like so many of the
>> groups do. I have positives of my own but I am at capacity in my 
>> home.
>> We can keep the FIV positives at our building but not the leuk
>> positives because we are cage free and all of our rooms are full with
>> non-contagious cats. We don't get them in often but am I able to
>> contact you to see if you are able to help if we do get a leuk pos? 
>> We
>> always hold them at least 30 days to restest and often 60 or 90 days
>> and we run both tests, the ELISA and the IFA to make sure they aren't
>> going to fight it off first. So far, most of the ones we have taken 
>> in
>> have converted after some time. We are always looking for more 
>> options
>> on the rare occasion we do get one in that remains positive and tests
>> positive on both the ELISA and IFA. Thanks for helping these
>> kitties!!!!
>>
>>
>> Let me know!
>>
>> Thanks Amy
>>
>>
>>   _____
>> From: Lorrie To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 6:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
>>
>>
>>>
>>>    Lorrie,
>>>
>>>    Do you have pictures?  I would love to see what you've done!
>>>
>>>    Kat (Mew Jersey)
>>
>> Hi Kat, I was born in Morristown, "Mew" Jersey.
>>
>>
>> I only have photos of the outside of my sanctuary and the grassy lot
>> next door where I have a small, heated, building for ferals, and a 
>> big
>> shade tree. I don't think they let us send photos to the group, but 
>> if
>> you want to see it I can send it to you. However, outside you just 
>> see
>> a two story brick building not the inside.
>> -
>>
>> It's really difficult to take photos of the inside because I can't 
>> get
>> back far enough in each room to really show what I've done.
>> -
>>
>> My cat sanctuary is two stories and a basement.  Downstairs are 5
>> rooms, including two rooms with wire doors for introduction or
>> isolation. My live-in caretaker has her own bedroom, a large kitchen,
>> full bathroom and a half bath.  The cats have access to every room 
>> and
>> my caretaker lets them sleep with her. She spoils them rotten.
>> They (cats & caretaker) all have a couch, chairs, and kitty kondos.
>> There is a glass front door and window perches so they can look
>> outside.
>>
>>
>> The cats are NOT in cages, they have the run of the downstairs and
>> upstairs rooms.  The older cats are downstairs, and adoptable young
>> cats and kittens are upstairs which is also designed just for them.
>> Upstairs are 4 large kitty kondos, 2 people chairs, many cozy cat
>> beds, and a wall-walk with two tunnels that goes all around the 
>> walls.
>> There are 4 rooms upstairs, and a laundry room.
>>
>>
>> Lorrie
>>
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>> Hi Lorrie - I believe that is why I was keeping Tigger on an
>> antibiotic - in case he started getting something due to his immune
>> system. I just wish I would have used doxycycline rather than
>> convenia. Amani can clarify a bit perhaps.
>> Ardy
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>> Of Lorrie
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 12:00 PM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
>>
>> Does anyone know (Amani probably will) if an anabolic steroid also
>> compromises the cat's immune system as steroid like Prednisolone 
>> does?
>>
>> Lorrie
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>> Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 07:16:26 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>> From: Margo To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
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>> Marsha, I'm so sorry.
>> What this "counselor" lacks is compassion. And any empathy for 
>> others.
>> He does NOT belong in this profession. He needs to go dig ditches,
>> somewhere far from actual humans.
>>
>> Common sense doesn't seem to have much to do with this. You are
>> struggling with grief, anxiety and hopelessness. Basically he told 
>> you
>> to pic yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again. I'm
>> surprised he didn't sing it :(
>>
>> Can you switch "counselors"? What kind of qualifications does this
>> ...man...hold?
>>
>> I have more, but want you to know that you're not alone...there any
>> many "common sense"less people in the world, and they make it a much
>> better place...
>>
>> Back after rounds
>>
>> Margo
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Marsha Sent: May 18, 2016 8:55 PM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
>>>
>>> I went to a counselor last month to help me cope with all that is on
>>> my plate.  During the 2nd session (1st one was the intake), he
>>> informed me that I lacked common sense (regarding money and 
>>> animals).
>>> Then he said he loves animals too, and everybody lacks common sense
>>> in some way - some drink too much, some eat too much, etc.  When I
>>> told him that I wasn't looking for any more cats to take in, he 
>>> said,
>>> "Good for you!"  All my brain processed was the word "good", which
>>> made his statement come across as highly judgemental.  I was more
>>> anxious and feeling more hopeless after I left.  Two things I was
>>> seeking help for.  I don't need that kind of help.  I am pretty sure
>>> that lacking common sense is not a diagnosis in any way.  And even 
>>> if
>>> it was, how would you treat it?  Plus I was very depressed and 
>>> crying
>>> because the last time I saw this counselor was the day before Brock
>>> died, and I still have Noelle to care for (sinus cancer).  I would
>>> like to tell him that HE lacked common sense in saying such things 
>>> to
>>> someone in the throes of depression.
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/18/2016 6:30 PM, Amani Oakley wrote:
>>>> Rachel
>>>>
>>>> I am just like you. I cry at commercials. Did you ever see the one
>>>> where they put a lamp on the curb to be picked up for garbage? Who
>>>> ever thought one could cry over the fate of an unloved and 
>>>> abandoned
>>>> lamp for goodness sake??
>>>>
>>>> My mom used to ask me why I was so insane to keep on taking these
>>>> cats who would just go on to break my heart. I would take it so
>>>> hard. But I told her that if the people who love cats so much 
>>>> aren't
>>>> going to be the ones who save them and sacrifice for them, it sure
>>>> as hell wasn't going to be the people who don't care about them. It
>>>> will break your heart Rachel. There is no avoiding it or minimizing
>>>> it, but you know you have done a truly wonderful wonderful thing 
>>>> and
>>>> you go on to find another unbelievably deserving little sweetheart
>>>> who also should know someone's love and devotion, while on this
>>>> earth. Frankly, while it kills me to lose my babies, there is
>>>> nothing at all more profoundly and intensely painful to me than a
>>>> poor being who never saw any love or kindness.
>>>>
>>>> We are all doing our part, in this group, to help these furry
>>>> angels. This gives me a sense of great purpose and hope.
>>>>
>>>> Amani
>>>
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> Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:03:01 -0400
> From: "swacht" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
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> Marsha, I'm so sorry for your loss. I really don't know if I'd 
> continue with this "counselor".  Would you be comfortable with keeping 
> a daily journal - write about your grief - write about Noelle ( I have 
> a cat named Noelle) - write about 1 thing that gives you a good 
> feeling.
> For me, I found writing helped with my losses.  Please give it a try.
> Sandy W
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 7:45 AM
> To: Margo ; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
>
> Margo are you a nurse? Pets or people? I am thinking pets since you 
> said you have assisted with transfusions.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 19, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Margo  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Marsha, I'm so sorry.
>>
>> What this "counselor" lacks is compassion. And any empathy for 
>> others. He does NOT belong in this profession. He needs to go dig 
>> ditches, somewhere far from actual humans.
>>
>> Common sense doesn't seem to have much to do with this. You are 
>> struggling with grief, anxiety and hopelessness. Basically he told 
>> you to pic yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again. 
>> I'm surprised he didn't sing it :(
>>
>> Can you switch "counselors"? What kind of qualifications does this 
>> ...man...hold?
>>
>> I have more, but want you to know that you're not alone...there any 
>> many "common sense"less people in the world, and they make it a much 
>> better place...
>>
>> Back after rounds
>>
>> Margo
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Marsha Sent: May 18, 2016 8:55 PM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
>>>
>>> I went to a counselor last month to help me cope with all that is on 
>>> my
>>> plate.  During the 2nd session (1st one was the intake), he informed 
>>> me
>>> that I lacked common sense (regarding money and animals).  Then he 
>>> said
>>> he loves animals too, and everybody lacks common sense in some way -
>>> some drink too much, some eat too much, etc.  When I told him that I
>>> wasn't looking for any more cats to take in, he said, "Good for 
>>> you!"
>>> All my brain processed was the word "good", which made his statement
>>> come across as highly judgemental.  I was more anxious and feeling 
>>> more
>>> hopeless after I left.  Two things I was seeking help for.  I don't 
>>> need
>>> that kind of help.  I am pretty sure that lacking common sense is 
>>> not a
>>> diagnosis in any way.  And even if it was, how would you treat it? 
>>> Plus
>>> I was very depressed and crying because the last time I saw this
>>> counselor was the day before Brock died, and I still have Noelle to 
>>> care
>>> for (sinus cancer).  I would like to tell him that HE lacked common
>>> sense in saying such things to someone in the throes of depression.
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 5/18/2016 6:30 PM, Amani Oakley wrote:
>>>> Rachel
>>>>
>>>> I am just like you. I cry at commercials. Did you ever see the one 
>>>> where they put a lamp on the curb to be picked up for garbage? Who 
>>>> ever thought one could cry over the fate of an unloved and 
>>>> abandoned lamp for goodness sake??
>>>>
>>>> My mom used to ask me why I was so insane to keep on taking these 
>>>> cats who would just go on to break my heart. I would take it so 
>>>> hard. But I told her that if the people who love cats so much 
>>>> aren't going to be the ones who save them and sacrifice for them, 
>>>> it sure as hell wasn't going to be the people who don't care about 
>>>> them. It will break your heart Rachel. There is no avoiding it or 
>>>> minimizing it, but you know you have done a truly wonderful 
>>>> wonderful thing and you go on to find another unbelievably 
>>>> deserving little sweetheart who also should know someone's love and 
>>>> devotion, while on this earth. Frankly, while it kills me to lose 
>>>> my babies, there is nothing at all more profoundly and intensely 
>>>> painful to me than a poor being who never saw any love or kindness.
>>>>
>>>> We are all doing our part, in this group, to help these furry 
>>>> angels. This gives me a sense of great purpose and hope.
>>>>
>>>> Amani
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 15:11:10 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Amy To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 
> Cat Sanctuary
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> Hi all,
> I just wanted to write about my comment about the cats that we have 
> taken in converting. I'm referring to the cats that have come into the 
> rescue where I volunteer, not my personal cats. None of my personal 
> cats have ever converted that I know of. I have do have one positive 
> that has been with me 12 years that I have not retested. He was 
> positive on the IFA and snap when I rescued him so I never bothered 
> retesting. His bloodwork also still shows signs that point to him 
> being positive. My other cats lived varied lives with the disease, 
> some less than 2 years, some 4-8, some 10-12.?
> We do not see a ton of leuk positives at our shelter. We have had 6 in 
> the two years that I have been there, a mom and 4 kittens, and an 
> adult. All 6 were able to fight off the virus and retested negative on 
> several later tests. We did not do anything special other than 
> quarantine them, try to reduce stress (which is not easy in a shelter 
> environment), feed them a quality food and retest at 30, 60, and 90 
> days. Even though the recommendation is to do an IFA if you get a 
> positive SNAP, we always wait 30 days and resnap. The reason for that 
> is we often take cats in from outdoors that may have had casual 
> contact and may initially test positive but fight it off. The IFA is 
> expensive to do if we think the cat might fight it off. If when we 
> retest, the cat is still pos, we do the IFA to confirm. The mom and 
> the 4 kittens all converted as well as the adult. We held them until 
> they tested negative on 3 different snap tests each over 30 days 
> apart. My guess is that the test caught the
>   exposure right after it happened. My understanding is that this is 
> NOT the norm. I'm not surprised about the adults fighting it off but I 
> was pretty shocked by the kittens. I adopted one of the kittens that 
> converted because I have a leuk positive and all my other cats are 
> vaccinated. We ran 5 different brands of tests on him and 4 of the 5 
> repeatedly come up negative but for some reason he tested positive on 
> the Witness test. So just in case there is a trace of the virus there 
> that could be passed on, we didn't want to put him into a home that 
> wasn't prepared for leukemia. My vet has no explanation for why he 
> tests positive on the one test and neither does Zoetis but they all 
> consider him negative based on all the other test results. So odd. 
> Either way, he has a forever home with me. If he is positive, so be 
> it. If he is negative and the test is goofy, even better. I continue 
> to retest and get the same results. Neg on everything except the 
> Zoetis Witness test. Makes me que
>  stion what others say about the virus going latent and coming back 
> later. I have heard numerous people tell me stories about cats that 
> tested negative numerous times, lived with them, never went outside, 
> never had contact with other cats and then came up positive later in 
> life. Hard to say for sure when I wasn't there and don't know if there 
> was any chance of exposure, but makes me stop and think for sure. I 
> often question the reliability of the Zoetis Witness test and my vet 
> has since stopped using them.
> That's my story.Amy
>
>       From: kat  To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org  Sent: Wednesday, May 
> 18, 2016 12:23 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
>    Ardy,?The email you are referencing was TO Lorrie - it was FROM Amy 
> who said "So far, most of the ones we have taken in have converted 
> after some time."? But like you, I would like to know what her 
> protocol has been to be so successful.?Kat (Mew Jersey)Sent:?Tuesday, 
> May 17, 2016 at 11:28 PM
> From:?"Ardy Robertson" To:?'Amy' , felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject:?Re: [Felvtalk] Cat SanctuaryHi Lorrie ? if you don?t mind me 
> asking, what do you mean by ?most cats you have taken in have 
> converted after some time?? Does that mean they no longer have FeLV, 
> and if so, what do you attribute that to??Thank you,Ardy ?From: 
> Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 10:31 AM
> To: felinerescue at frontier.com; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary?Lorrie,?That sounds amazing! I 
> do cat rescue in Rochester, NY and we are a no-kill rescue so when we 
> get in leuk pos kitties, we do our best to find places for them to go. 
> We don't euthanize like so many of the groups do. I have positives of 
> my own but I am at capacity in my home. We can keep the FIV positives 
> at our building but not the leuk positives because we are cage free 
> and all of our rooms are full with non-contagious cats. We don't get 
> them in often but am I able to contact you to see if you are able to 
> help if we do get a leuk pos? We always hold them at least 30 days to 
> restest and often 60 or 90 days and we run both tests, the ELISA and 
> the IFA to make sure they aren't going to fight it off first. So far, 
> most of the ones we have taken in have converted after some time. We 
> are always looking for more options on the rare occasion we do get one 
> in that remains positive and tests positive on both the ELISA and IFA. 
> Thanks for hel
>  ping these kitties!!!!?Let me know!Thanks Amy?From: Lorrie To: 
> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 6:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
>>
>> ? ? Lorrie,
>>
>> ? ? Do you have pictures?? I would love to see what you've done!
>>
>> ? ? Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
> Hi Kat, I was born in Morristown, "Mew" Jersey.
>
>
> I only have photos of the outside of my sanctuary and the grassy lot
> next door where I have a small, heated, building for ferals, and a
> big shade tree. I don't think they let us send photos to the group,
> but if you want to see it I can send it to you. However, outside you
> just see a two story brick building not the inside.
> -
>
> It's really difficult to take photos of the inside because I can't
> get back far enough in each room to really show what I've done.
> -
>
> My cat sanctuary is two stories and a basement.? Downstairs are 5
> rooms, including two rooms with wire doors for introduction or
> isolation. My live-in caretaker has her own bedroom, a large kitchen,
> full bathroom and a half bath.? The cats have access to every room
> and my caretaker lets them sleep with her. She spoils them rotten.
> They (cats & caretaker) all have a couch, chairs, and kitty kondos.
> There is a glass front door and window perches so they can look
> outside.
>
>
> The cats are NOT in cages, they have the run of the downstairs and
> upstairs rooms.? The older cats are downstairs, and adoptable young
> cats and kittens are upstairs which is also designed just for them.
> Upstairs are 4 large kitty kondos, 2 people chairs, many cozy cat
> beds, and a wall-walk with two tunnels that goes all around the
> walls. There are 4 rooms upstairs, and a laundry room.
>
>
> Lorrie
>
>
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