[Felvtalk] Winstrol/Doxy Dosages

Margo toomanykitties2 at earthlink.net
Thu May 19 15:27:38 CDT 2016


Just quickly...

>From Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook Fifth Edition

Stanozolol (Winstrol)
Cats; 1-2 mg PO bid (twice a day); or 25 mg deep IM, may repeat weekly.
Treatment should continue for several weeks, depending on response and condition of the animal.

Doxycycline varies from 5mg/kg to 5-10mg'kg to 50mg per cat, but all are every twelve hours. I always used 25mg per cat unless advised otherwise.

Margo

-----Original Message-----
>From: ROBERT CHAPEL <bchapel at optonline.net>
>Sent: May 19, 2016 10:16 AM
>To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol/Doxy Dosages
>
>After getting a "clean" bill of Health for my Yogi ( ie.. good blood 
>results
>and no obvious ills beyond the blood in his eye) a day and a half  later 
>he is not eating( despite the addition of mirtazapine 1/8 of a 15mg tab 
>)when he WAS eating before and his eye issue has moved to the right eye 
>as well)  Vet initially offered only ( Anything can happen to FeLV+ 
>cats) and no guidance for any kind of TX
>Others on the group have suggested uveitis ( and symptoms are consistent 
>with this)... that said...  I have never been sure of the dosages being 
>used with winstrol and Doxy....  Those of you who are using this 
>protocol: are you giving it according to weight ( X mg per lb) ?   This 
>would make the most sense to me...
>I get the impression that 1mg 2x a day is common...yes??  How about the 
>Doxy??    Don't know that this vet will go for it but there is no harm 
>in asking... She's not offering anything beyond " love him and feed him 
>well"...   Great idea if he would eat...  This was NOT a big problem 
>until yesterday..AFTER the administration of the appetite Stimulant..  
>As this is the only change in his regimen I think it wise to DC the 
>mirtazapine for the present ( opinions??)
>Thanks for any input...
>
>Bob
>Warwick NY
> 
> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 22:20:46 -0500
>> From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
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>> Thanks Kat ? I did not realize that?.but like you, I was curious :)
>>
>>
>> Ardy
>>
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>>
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of kat
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:24 AM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
>>
>>
>> Ardy,
>>
>>
>> The email you are referencing was TO Lorrie - it was FROM Amy who said 
>> "So far, most of the ones we have taken in have converted after some 
>> time."  But like you, I would like to know what her protocol has been 
>> to be so successful.
>>
>>
>> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 11:28 PM
>> From: "Ardy Robertson"  >
>> To: 'Amy'  >, felvtalk at felineleukemia.org  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat 
>> Sanctuary
>>
>> Hi Lorrie ? if you don?t mind me asking, what do you mean by ?most 
>> cats you have taken in have converted after some time?? Does that mean 
>> they no longer have FeLV, and if so, what do you attribute that to?
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Ardy
>>
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Amy
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 10:31 AM
>> To: felinerescue at frontier.com  ; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org  Subject: 
>> Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
>>
>>
>> Lorrie,
>>
>>
>> That sounds amazing! I do cat rescue in Rochester, NY and we are a 
>> no-kill rescue so when we get in leuk pos kitties, we do our best to 
>> find places for them to go. We don't euthanize like so many of the 
>> groups do. I have positives of my own but I am at capacity in my home. 
>> We can keep the FIV positives at our building but not the leuk 
>> positives because we are cage free and all of our rooms are full with 
>> non-contagious cats. We don't get them in often but am I able to 
>> contact you to see if you are able to help if we do get a leuk pos? We 
>> always hold them at least 30 days to restest and often 60 or 90 days 
>> and we run both tests, the ELISA and the IFA to make sure they aren't 
>> going to fight it off first. So far, most of the ones we have taken in 
>> have converted after some time. We are always looking for more options 
>> on the rare occasion we do get one in that remains positive and tests 
>> positive on both the ELISA and IFA. Thanks for helping these 
>> kitties!!!!
>>
>>
>> Let me know!
>>
>> Thanks Amy
>>
>>
>>   _____
>> From: Lorrie To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 6:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
>>
>>
>>>
>>>    Lorrie,
>>>
>>>    Do you have pictures?  I would love to see what you've done!
>>>
>>>    Kat (Mew Jersey)
>>
>> Hi Kat, I was born in Morristown, "Mew" Jersey.
>>
>>
>> I only have photos of the outside of my sanctuary and the grassy lot
>> next door where I have a small, heated, building for ferals, and a
>> big shade tree. I don't think they let us send photos to the group,
>> but if you want to see it I can send it to you. However, outside you
>> just see a two story brick building not the inside.
>> -
>>
>> It's really difficult to take photos of the inside because I can't
>> get back far enough in each room to really show what I've done.
>> -
>>
>> My cat sanctuary is two stories and a basement.  Downstairs are 5
>> rooms, including two rooms with wire doors for introduction or
>> isolation. My live-in caretaker has her own bedroom, a large kitchen,
>> full bathroom and a half bath.  The cats have access to every room
>> and my caretaker lets them sleep with her. She spoils them rotten.
>> They (cats & caretaker) all have a couch, chairs, and kitty kondos.
>> There is a glass front door and window perches so they can look
>> outside.
>>
>>
>> The cats are NOT in cages, they have the run of the downstairs and
>> upstairs rooms.  The older cats are downstairs, and adoptable young
>> cats and kittens are upstairs which is also designed just for them.
>> Upstairs are 4 large kitty kondos, 2 people chairs, many cozy cat
>> beds, and a wall-walk with two tunnels that goes all around the
>> walls. There are 4 rooms upstairs, and a laundry room.
>>
>>
>> Lorrie
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 22:22:22 -0500
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>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
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>> Hi Lorrie - I believe that is why I was keeping Tigger on an 
>> antibiotic - in
>> case he started getting something due to his immune system. I just 
>> wish I
>> would have used doxycycline rather than convenia. Amani can clarify a 
>> bit
>> perhaps.
>> Ardy
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Lorrie
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 12:00 PM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
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>> Does anyone know (Amani probably will) if an anabolic steroid also
>> compromises the cat's immune system as steroid like Prednisolone does?
>>
>> Lorrie
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 07:16:26 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>> From: Margo To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
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>> Marsha, I'm so sorry.
>> What this "counselor" lacks is compassion. And any empathy for others. 
>> He does NOT belong in this profession. He needs to go dig ditches, 
>> somewhere far from actual humans.
>>
>> Common sense doesn't seem to have much to do with this. You are 
>> struggling with grief, anxiety and hopelessness. Basically he told you 
>> to pic yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again. I'm 
>> surprised he didn't sing it :(
>>
>> Can you switch "counselors"? What kind of qualifications does this 
>> ...man...hold?
>>
>> I have more, but want you to know that you're not alone...there any 
>> many "common sense"less people in the world, and they make it a much 
>> better place...
>>
>> Back after rounds
>>
>> Margo
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Marsha Sent: May 18, 2016 8:55 PM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
>>>
>>> I went to a counselor last month to help me cope with all that is on 
>>> my plate.  During the 2nd session (1st one was the intake), he 
>>> informed me that I lacked common sense (regarding money and animals). 
>>> Then he said he loves animals too, and everybody lacks common sense 
>>> in some way - some drink too much, some eat too much, etc.  When I 
>>> told him that I wasn't looking for any more cats to take in, he said, 
>>> "Good for you!"  All my brain processed was the word "good", which 
>>> made his statement come across as highly judgemental.  I was more 
>>> anxious and feeling more hopeless after I left.  Two things I was 
>>> seeking help for.  I don't need that kind of help.  I am pretty sure 
>>> that lacking common sense is not a diagnosis in any way.  And even if 
>>> it was, how would you treat it?  Plus I was very depressed and crying 
>>> because the last time I saw this counselor was the day before Brock 
>>> died, and I still have Noelle to care for (sinus cancer).  I would 
>>> like to tell him that HE lacked common sense in saying such things to 
>>> someone in the throes of depression.
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/18/2016 6:30 PM, Amani Oakley wrote:
>>>> Rachel
>>>>
>>>> I am just like you. I cry at commercials. Did you ever see the one 
>>>> where they put a lamp on the curb to be picked up for garbage? Who 
>>>> ever thought one could cry over the fate of an unloved and abandoned 
>>>> lamp for goodness sake??
>>>>
>>>> My mom used to ask me why I was so insane to keep on taking these 
>>>> cats who would just go on to break my heart. I would take it so 
>>>> hard. But I told her that if the people who love cats so much aren't 
>>>> going to be the ones who save them and sacrifice for them, it sure 
>>>> as hell wasn't going to be the people who don't care about them. It 
>>>> will break your heart Rachel. There is no avoiding it or minimizing 
>>>> it, but you know you have done a truly wonderful wonderful thing and 
>>>> you go on to find another unbelievably deserving little sweetheart 
>>>> who also should know someone's love and devotion, while on this 
>>>> earth. Frankly, while it kills me to lose my babies, there is 
>>>> nothing at all more profoundly and intensely painful to me than a 
>>>> poor being who never saw any love or kindness.
>>>>
>>>> We are all doing our part, in this group, to help these furry 
>>>> angels. This gives me a sense of great purpose and hope.
>>>>
>>>> Amani
>>>
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