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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you, Christine. So far Baby has been only in the studio, completely isolated, when she visits us. It never occurred to me to do otherwise, not only because of felv but to avoid other contagious illnesses as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>It typically takes us months to merge new cats into our setting. We go very slowly to avoid stress-related illnesses and spraying. So merging Baby in with ours for just a stay of a week or two would not be worth the tumult in the whole household.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>It’s a luxury to be able to keep her separate and I’m grateful that I can. If I used the studio (which I don’t do when she’s here) I’d have to move her to another room because the equipment in the studio is dangerous for cats.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>And I agree with your approach to the kitten. Sometimes circumstances are such that they are better off together. If I had two who were very attached to each other, and one turned up positive, I would not separate them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I have a similar dilemma with our FIV kitty Cyril. He has a buddy, Micky, who is totally in love with Cyril. But Cyril had several birth defects (*) in addition to FIV, and has only one eye left. Micky plays very roughly, and I’m afraid Cyril will lose that eye to an injury. So I only allow them together when I can supervise them, and not because of the FIV. I make sure Micky gets plenty of other exercise first. I expect Micky will outgrow the roughness; he’s only 3.5 years old.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>* A constellation of 7 birth defects can occur together in cats, including eye defects, multiple cardio problems, undescended testes, kinked tail, and some limb abnormalities. Cyril got the eyes and the testes. But golly, he sure is cute!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>- Lorraine<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>"S</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ometimes it is the people no one can imagine anything of who do the things no one can imagine." - Alan Turing <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christine Dundas<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 22, 2019 3:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] Cleaning? Retesting?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>My advice would be to keep FeLv and non-FeLv cats separated. If you choose not to, you have to understand there is a chance the non-FeLv cats could get infected. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Having said that, when my husband brought home a kitten that tested positive for FeLV, I had to make that choice. We live in a small condo with two other cats. We decided to keep her as long as she could be with us. I had my two other cats vaccinated for FeLV. They were adult cats, healthy in every way. There was no way I could keep everything and everyone separated. Our little Ruthie passed away after almost two years. My two adult cats tested negative afterwards, a few times. And are still healthy and happy. That was about four years ago. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Christine<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 2:46 PM Amani Oakley <<a href="mailto:aoakley@oakleylegal.com">aoakley@oakleylegal.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I had my Zander for seven years, mixed with a dozen other cats. I never took any precautions at all. It was too late by the time we figured out he had FeLV. No other cat ever got the infection.</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Amani</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Felvtalk [mailto:<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org" target="_blank">felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lorraine Johnston<br><b>Sent:</b> February-22-19 2:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" target="_blank">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] Cleaning? Retesting?</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-CA> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you. I guess I should have phrased my question to indicate that I was concerned about spreading FeLV to my non-FeLV cats. If I understand correctly, your cats are, or were, all FeLV-positive, so there would not have been any non-FeLV cats to spread it to? </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I told my cousin back in December that I would also keep Baby in April when he goes way again. So now I’m trying to determine if that’s safe to do, and what additional precautions (if any) I should take while she’s here to avoid spread, now that we know she’s FeLV-positive.</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you,</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>- Lorraine</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>"Sometimes it is the people no one can imagine anything of who do the things no one can imagine." - Alan Turing </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> FeLVtalk [mailto:<a href="mailto:FeLVtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org" target="_blank">FeLVtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:dlgegg@windstream.net" target="_blank">dlgegg@windstream.net</a></span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I have only had FELV cats but never washed my hands after handling them. I treated all the same and have had no experience of the disease spreading to others. I have had up to 10 at a time as all who came to my house became part of my "pride". As they came to me, I took them to the vet for a checkup, spay or neuter and they became mine.</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>----- Original Message -----</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Hello again,</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>For those of you who have both FELV+ and - cats, how strenuous are your cleaning efforts? For instance, do you wash hands after just petting? Do you have your negative cats retested every year?</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Thank you,</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>- Lorraine</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>"Sometimes it is the people no one can imagine anything of who do the things no one can imagine." - Alan Turing</span><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Felvtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" target="_blank">Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br><a href="http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org" target="_blank">http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>