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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Another suggestion on getting a cat to drink……clam juice in a bottle. When my kitties were sick one winter they would not drink anything, and I had to get sub-q fluids at the vet’s. I can’t seem to handle giving the fluids myself. Anyway the clam juice has a fishy smell and they seem to love it. My older cat drinks too much of it and sometimes throws up but now I don’t give her that much. I also keep some on hand for a treat – we call it a kitty cocktail. The juice from tuna in water is another option.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Good luck with Bogey,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ardy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Amani Oakley<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Felvtalk] FW: FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Sherri<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Even without the issue of jaundice, if Bogey is dehydrated, the urine will be darker.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Sherri, do you know how to give subcutaneous fluids? It is very easy. Perhaps ask your vet to show you how. You just lift the loose skin at the back of the neck, and you inject or run fluids into that gap under the skin, behind the neck. The body will absorb the fluids as needed, so there is virtually no risk of giving too much fluid – any excess fluid is just peed out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>It is a life-saving technique that I wouldn’t be without. I always keep several bags of fluid in the house (ringer’s lactate/saline/5% dextrose – I hang onto any bags I can get) for use in an emergency. A droopy cat will often respond immediately and miraculously to subcutaneous fluids – usually saline or the ringer’s lactate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Amani<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Felvtalk [<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sherri Godschalk<br><b>Sent:</b> December-15-16 5:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Well I cannot seem to find anything that she will voluntarily drink. I think chicken broth is next. She groomed herself some today. But the last time she urinated it had started to turn more orange. Maybe this is expected? She does have more bounce in her step. Walking straighter lines and less wobbly. She is fighting me feeding her which is more her style. She meowed at me today when I called her name. What a wonderful sound that was.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Felvtalk <<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>> on behalf of Amani Oakley <<a href="mailto:aoakley@oakleylegal.com">aoakley@oakleylegal.com</a>><br><b>Reply-To: </b><<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 8:04 AM<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>You can take your milk and dilute it with warm water and stir it around. </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Amani</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Felvtalk [<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sherri Godschalk<br><b>Sent:</b> December-15-16 8:13 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Hi Amani. This morning’s urine was also pretty clear. I will pick up some baby food today. She isn’t refusing to eat. She just is really too weak. If I hold her and let her lick it off my hand she does great. Almost a half of a 5.5 oz can already today. She has not vomited. I thought about milk but she has yet to have a bowel movement and I didn’t want to constipate her more. I think I will offer her some at next feeding. I drink whole milk so I think I will pick up some Whiskas today too.</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I was surprised that the vet told me to start the Winstrol again so soon. I thought that was not a good plan. </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thanks for the input Amani.</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Felvtalk <<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>> on behalf of Amani Oakley <<a href="mailto:aoakley@oakleylegal.com">aoakley@oakleylegal.com</a>><br><b>Reply-To: </b><<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 7:42 AM<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>[Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Sherri</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>There isn’t any hurry to get her back on the Winstrol. I would wait. Her haematology numbers give you quite a significant cushion to rely upon. Winstrol likely strains the liver, so you want the liver to rest for a while. </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>It sounds like she is better, though. I recommend baby food, which you can syringe feed into her. Keep up the feeding. It is good that the first urine was orange but the next wasn’t. She is hopefully clearing out the bilirubin. I think fluids are important to help with that, too. Have you tried some very diluted milk or some Whiskas milk? That might encourage her to drink some more.</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Amani</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Felvtalk [<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sherri Godschalk<br><b>Sent:</b> December-15-16 7:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Just a little update for any of you following Bogey’s progress here or others who find these posts helpful.</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>First day home from hospital. She of course wasn’t interested in eating. But I would sit with her and she would lick Hill’s L/d and a/d from my finger. She ate over a full can total. Every hour or so I gave her about a tablespoon. Alternating between the two. I also am giving her water and a few drops of Pedialite each time. The first time she urinated it was very orange about 2 pm. She didn’t urinate again until last night around 10 and was clear. She actually went to her water dish last night and took a couple of laps. She is still weak and wobbly. But she know where things are. Still seems out of it though. I doubt that she slept at all while in the hospital so I am just letting her rest. She is curled up on a bean bag chair right now with a heating pad on her.</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>She isn’t suffering or getting worse.</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I have yet to start her back on the Winstrol but may do that today if the jaundice continues to show improvement. Might make her feel stronger.</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thanks for reading.</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Sherri</span><span lang=EN-CA style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>