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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I understand completely. We are being held hostage by the vets sometimes. My concern is that when a cat gets so low in her RBC’s and haematocrit counts, you don’t
have a lot of time to react. I am glad that Bogey is holding her own but I worry that if the FeLV is not being attacked head on (with the Doxy) then any benefit you get from the Winstrol pumping up the red cells and the platelets, will be overtaken by the
viral replication going on in the lymphocytes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I agree with you though that you probably don’t have a lot of options. See what happens when the third set of blood results comes back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With respect to the Doxycycline, at least get him to agree if he thinks it will do NOTHING. i.e. – not good, not bad as far as he is concerned. So then if that
is the case, why not try it just in case and in any event, it may help guard against an opportunistic infection, or deal with Hemobartinella, if it is present and infecting the red cells.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Amani<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sherri Godschalk<br>
<b>Sent:</b> September-16-16 2:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Amani, I did discuss my fears of stopping the Stanzolol but he told me basically that this is how we were going to do it. I also mentioned the doxycycline. Which
I got just a shake of the head. I can’t double up Bogeys meds because they only give me so much of it…until our next appointment actually. I’m not comfortable with trying to find another vet because the likelihood of them giving out Stanzolol is a turkey shoot.
I feel a little helpless here. Hopefully she will continue to get a little better each time on what he is prescribing for her. Thanks for writing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Felvtalk <<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>> on behalf of Amani Oakley <<a href="mailto:aoakley@oakleylegal.com">aoakley@oakleylegal.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b><<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sorry – I was looking at the wrong thing when I mentioned the lymphocytes. I was actually noticing the MCHC going up (mean cell haemoglobin concentration) which
is also a good thing.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">They lymphocytes have gone up, not down, and emphasizes the need for the doxycycline in my opinion.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Amani</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> Felvtalk [<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sherri Godschalk<br>
<b>Sent:</b> September-16-16 12:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Well we got good news at the vets office today. Not great but good. Bogey was on Pred and Stanzolol for 14 days. The vet then wanted her off (Stanzolol) for 14
days then back on to cycle her on it. Bogey then went into heat on the 5th off day so I called the vet 4 days into her heat because it seemed to be very hard on her. He had me go right back on the Stanzolol and her heat ended the next day. So what we had was
2 weeks on, 10 days off and been back on it now for 7 days. Her are her results from 9/16 and the ones from 8/24.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">9/16 <span class="apple-tab-span">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">RBC<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>2.57<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>2.43</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span>5.5<span class="apple-tab-span">
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</span>59.1<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>62.6</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span>34.9</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span>23.9</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span>13.46</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span>8.83<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>7.75</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span>1.58</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span>.004<span class="apple-tab-span">
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</span>.010<span class="apple-tab-span">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">PLT<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>88<span class="apple-tab-span">
</span>50</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">She did not have a fever today and had gained almost .75 of a pound since 8/1. She is still playing some, eating and drinking well. But still is wobbly and sleeps
quite a bit. She is holding her own on this drug combo and the vet was very happy especially with the PLT, which I need to read about again. We are keeping her on it for 30 days this next cycle and rechecking then. (Although I will probably take her in before
that because I am a worrier)</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Just thought I would post this for other FELV+ owners incase you were doubting this drug (Stanzolol) because of the potential of damage later in life. Remember
we must get them to “later in life” first.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thank you all and best wishes.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Sherri</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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