<div dir="ltr">Karen, I'm so sorry for your loss of Cole. You did right by him. It never feels like we have enough time with them, but I hope the happy memories you shared bring you comfort during this time of sadness. Thank you for taking such good care of him. I am sure he felt loved. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Rain Tyler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rain.tyler@mchsi.com" target="_blank">rain.tyler@mchsi.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Sherri,<br>
<br>
I am so sorry for your loss. Cole was obviously very loved. I feel your pain. Three weeks ago today we lost our beloved FeLV+ Penelope. I've been too upset to share that here before now. Penelope had abnormal vocalizations and hyperesthesia (abnormal sensitivity to non painful stimuli) that in rare instances comes with Feline Leukemia due to myelopathy from changes in the spinal cord and brain. She would vocalize loudly as she jumped up and looked at her rear as if it was offending her. She'd twitch her tail and growl at nothing. Pain meds helped for a while but then the episodes became almost non stop. Hearing her screech and jump in pain repeatedly for hours at a time was heartbreaking. We couldn't let her continue in that pain. She died in my arms. I miss her so much. She was my soul cat who we had since she was found at 3 days (umbilical cord still attached). She survived such a rough beginning and became a very healthy looking cat, so we were surprised and dev<br>
astated to find out she was positive, having contracting FELV in utero. She was healthy for two years. I am grateful for those two years but wish it had been much longer.<br>
<br>
I hate Feline Leukemia!! It is such an awful disease. My sympathies to you, Sherri, and everyone else who has lost a cat to this devastating retrovirus.<br>
<br>
Rain<br>
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> So sorry for the loss of your boy Karen. Hoping you can find peace in<br>
> knowing that you did everything you could and he was lucky to have you.<br>
> Best.<br>
><br>
> Sherri<br>
><br>
> From: Felvtalk <<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk-bounces@<wbr>felineleukemia.org</a>> on behalf of Amani<br>
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> Oh Karen. I am so, so, so sorry. I know how you are hurting tonight.<br>
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> Amani<br>
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> From: Felvtalk [mailto:<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk-bounces@<wbr>felineleukemia.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
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> Everyone thank you so much for all your caring help, but it was just too<br>
> late. My baby Cole died in my arms tonight. Everyone love your fur babies<br>
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> Amani, You mention that you had your cat on the Stanazolol and Prednisone<br>
> simultaneously . Below you mention you had him on just 1mg of the Pred. My<br>
> vet has Bogie at 5mg once a day. Does this seem in excess to you?<br>
><br>
> Sherri<br>
><br>
> From: Felvtalk <<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk-bounces@<wbr>felineleukemia.org</a> <javascript:return> ><br>
> on behalf of Amani<br>
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> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 12:04 AM<br>
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> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9<br>
><br>
> Karen<br>
><br>
> Don?t listen about the steroids and the liver. Stanazolol brought my cat<br>
> back from a red cell count of 10. If there is a problem with the liver, what<br>
> is the downside here? If the Stanazolol doesn?t work and the liver gets<br>
> worse, there is probably little or anything else that will work. If the<br>
> Stanazolol works, you will have another opportunity to deal with the liver<br>
> down the road and I frankly think that once your cat starts eating again,<br>
> this will be supportive for the liver as well.<br>
><br>
> Additionally, the Stanazolol should be given with 1 mg of Prednisone daily,<br>
> which is also helpful to the liver.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Amani<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk-bounces@<wbr>felineleukemia.org</a><br>
> <javascript:return> ] On Behalf Of<br>
> Karen Harshbarger<br>
> Sent: August-17-16 3:07 PM<br>
> To: felvtalk; felvtalk<br>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9<br>
><br>
> How did you know there was enlarged lymth nodes? Bloodwoork or X-ray or<br>
> exam? All I have is blood work listed here. Vet does not want to use<br>
> steroids of any kind she said cause liver is already struggling per blood<br>
> work and steroids can cause liver illness. I have tried AD and baby food--<br>
> he threw them up. So now I am using ID cause vet said easy to digest. I<br>
> blend it and strain so it probably is nit the best calories with water added<br>
> too but first two syringes today has stayed down. But night is when he<br>
> looses any daytime gains so we will see. If I can't figure out soon if not<br>
> already too late how to get more calories in him I am afraid he will pass<br>
> point of no return. We have interferon ordered but taking forever to get<br>
> here-- been a week. Thanks for all your quick kind support<br>
><br>
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> Sorry Sherri. You are right. It was 1 tablet (1/2 twice a day) but it was<br>
> indeed 5 mg. I was thinking ONE tablet equals 1 mg in my tiny little brain.<br>
><br>
> That is the correct dose for Prednisone. But you mention only a single dose<br>
> of the Winstrol. Is that 2 mg once per day?<br>
><br>
> Amani<br>
><br>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk-bounces@<wbr>felineleukemia.org</a><br>
> <javascript:return> ] On Behalf Of Sherri Godschalk<br>
> Sent: August-18-16 8:45 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a> <javascript:return><br>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9<br>
><br>
> Amani, You mention that you had your cat on the Stanazolol and Prednisone<br>
> simultaneously . Below you mention you had him on just 1mg of the Pred. My<br>
> vet has Bogie at 5mg once a day. Does this seem in excess to you?<br>
><br>
> Sherri<br>
><br>
> From: Felvtalk <<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk-bounces@<wbr>felineleukemia.org</a> <javascript:return><br>
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> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9<br>
><br>
> Karen<br>
><br>
> Don't listen about the steroids and the liver. Stanazolol brought my cat<br>
> back from a red cell count of 10. If there is a problem with the liver, what<br>
> is the downside here? If the Stanazolol doesn't work and the liver gets<br>
> worse, there is probably little or anything else that will work. If the<br>
> Stanazolol works, you will have another opportunity to deal with the liver<br>
> down the road and I frankly think that once your cat starts eating again,<br>
> this will be supportive for the liver as well.<br>
><br>
> Additionally, the Stanazolol should be given with 1 mg of Prednisone daily,<br>
> which is also helpful to the liver.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Amani<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk-bounces@<wbr>felineleukemia.org</a><br>
> <javascript:return> ] On Behalf Of Karen Harshbarger<br>
> Sent: August-17-16 3:07 PM<br>
> To: felvtalk; felvtalk<br>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9<br>
><br>
> How did you know there was enlarged lymth nodes? Bloodwoork or X-ray or<br>
> exam? All I have is blood work listed here. Vet does not want to use<br>
> steroids of any kind she said cause liver is already struggling per blood<br>
> work and steroids can cause liver illness. I have tried AD and baby food--<br>
> he threw them up. So now I am using ID cause vet said easy to digest. I<br>
> blend it and strain so it probably is nit the best calories with water added<br>
> too but first two syringes today has stayed down. But night is when he<br>
> looses any daytime gains so we will see. If I can't figure out soon if not<br>
> already too late how to get more calories in him I am afraid he will pass<br>
> point of no return. We have interferon ordered but taking forever to get<br>
> here-- been a week. Thanks for all your quick kind support<br>
><br>
><br>
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