<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-size: 13px;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br>I strongly disagree. "Killed" (inactivated) vaccines contain adjuvants. Those adjuvants have been implicated in the development of FISS in vaccinated cats. Of course, even non-adjuvanted vaccines have resulted in the same, but the name has been changed from VAS to FISS because it nows seems that ANY Injection can be associated with the tumors.<br><br>I use Purevax recombinant vaccines for both rabies and FeLV, which are considered the most likely to be associated with FISS. From this article ;<br><span style="font-size: 11pt"><br>http://catinfo.org/?link=vaccines<br><br>"If you are
more comfortable vaccinating a cat that
goes outside, please do not vaccinate
him yearly. Vaccinating one time
with a <b>PureVax</b> (the only
NON-adjuvanted option) vaccine would fit
within my comfort zone."<br><br>I use NO Killed Vaccines.<br><br>Margo </span><br><br><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 0px; border-left: #0000ff 2px solid; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial,sans-serif; color: black;">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Terri Brown <siggiesmom@hotmail.com>
<br>Sent: Jun 10, 2016 11:45 PM
<br>To: felvtalk <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
<br>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Different types of FeLV
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<zzzbody class="hmmessage"><div dir="ltr">I think she may have meant the FIV vaccine. FIV vaccines will cause the cat to always test positive. That is not the case with the FeLV vaccine.<div><br></div><div>Killed virus FeLV vaccine is safe.</div><div><br></div><div>(The lurker comes out of the shadows for this one....)<br><br>=^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha,
Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire =^..^=<br><br><div>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 20:06:27 -0500<br>From: "Ardy Robertson" <ardyr@centurytel.net><br>To: "'Margo'" <toomanykitties2@earthlink.net>,<br><felvtalk@felineleukemia.org><br>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv<br><br>Yes - she said because after they receive the FeLV vaccination, they always<br>test positive for FeLV. I did not know if this was true or not. She seemed<br>like she knew what she was talking about - she knows a lot about animal<br>nutrition etc. but of course is not a vet or anything.<br><br>Ardy<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of<br>Margo<br>Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 5:12 AM<br>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv<br><br><br> Did the Pet Store Manager say why s/he did not approve?<br><br>Margo<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ardy Robertson <ardyr@centurytel.net><br>Sent: Jun 9, 2016 12:01 AM<br>To: felinerescue@frontier.com, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv<br><br>My vet never said that exactly, but the pet store manager told me the <br>FeLV vaccine is not a good idea.<br><br>Ardy<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf <br>Of Lorrie<br>Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:38 AM<br>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv<br><br>Has anyone's vet ever advised them against vaccines for a FELV<br>cat, or minimal vaccines, or spacing them out, being they have a<br>compromised immune system?<br><br><br>My vet will not give vaccinations to any FelV cats, nor to any of my <br>old cats. She also does not tell me to euthanize a FelV cat. Some <br>positive cats can live long lives in spite of having the virus.<br><br>It is encouraging to know that FelV is NOT a death sentence with every cat.<br>Usually if is fatal with kittens however, as their immune systems are <br>not fully developed.<br><br><br>Lorrie<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Felvtalk mailing list<br>Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org<br><br>Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 20:09:39 -0500<br>From: "Ardy Robertson" <ardyr@centurytel.net><br>To: "'Margo'" <toomanykitties2@earthlink.net>,<br>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org><br>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv<br>Message-ID: <017f01d1c37d$ee8a62b0$cb9f2810$@centurytel.net><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>I know....... I could not believe that she told me that. And yes, her dogs<br>are in contact with the dogs that go to her classes and also to her doggie<br>day care. Maybe she had to get them vaccinated when she went on her own and<br>opened her own business but when she worked at a different one, they were<br>not vaccinated. Yes, I agree she could get in trouble too - and yet, I see<br>her point too.<br><br>Ardy<br><br></div><div>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of<br>Margo<br>Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 5:22 AM<br>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv<br><br><br>I have fed raw, but don't currently.<br><br>If the trainer's dogs have contact with clients or other dogs, s/he should<br>be careful. That's the kind of high profile that can bring trouble. It only<br>takes one person telling the "wrong" person that she doesn't vaccinate, and<br>she could be in deep doo-doo. <br><br></div><div>It is possible in some states to get a "waiver" allowing a cat to not be<br>vaccinated for health reasons, but the cat/dog is treated as unvaccinated<br>and subjected to the same conditions as an unvaccinated animal.<br><br>It's a choice, but needs to be made with care. <br><br>Margo<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ardy Robertson <ardyr@centurytel.net><br>Sent: Jun 9, 2016 12:16 AM<br>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv<br><br>In Wisconsin, rabies vaccinations are actually required for dogs, but <br>not for cats. But a lot of vets will not treat a cat that is not rabies <br>vaccinated. Since Scotchie died from a rabies vaccination, I do not <br>vaccinate for it unless they make me. Cally had to have surgery to be <br>spayed, so she had to be vaccinated for rabies and she came through fine.<br>And Topaz was already vaccinated when I adopted her.<br><br>I know a very reputable dog trainer who actually runs a doggie day-care <br>and training center, and she has three dogs of her own and does not <br>have them vaccinated for rabies - I have no idea how she gets by with <br>it, but she believes rabies vaccinations are bad. She also is an <br>advocate for feeding raw meat to her animals, and no commercial dog food.<br><br>Thank you,<br>Ardy Robertson, Clerk<br>Town of Garfield - Jackson County, WI<br>N14438 Valleybrook Ln<br>Osseo WI 54758<br>715-533-0661<br><br><br><br></div></div> </div></zzzbody>
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