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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I think we need both natural and conventional. After all if your cholesterol is high and you lose weight and change your diet and eat some oatmeal everyday it is likely that you can bring it down without spending your life of drugs. Right? There is merit to including vitamins and supplements and the healthiest food you can put in your body and into that of your animals. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Felvtalk [mailto:<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>ROBERT CHAPEL<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 09, 2016 5:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccines and General Health Knowledge...</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">I applaud Amani's very nicely delineated defense of Vaccines and her pointing out how many people who are anti vax ( and dare I say wedded to " all natural " cures etc) more often than not have a sub standard understanding of immunology, Micro Bio and even basic physiology..... I am not a huge fan of the medical 'machine' in america but the fact that it is BIG business should not obviate the fact that there are MANY individual MD's and Vets who do their level best to practice well and ethically and who DO know quite a bit more than we do even if we do not always like the conclusions they draw. Silly people who are fond of saying that " The Doctors don't know what they are talking about" can seldom be seen avoiding these same uninformed professionals as soon as something goes amiss with their health.( Then , of course, fail to follow the advice they are given...don't improve and blame it on the fact the the " Doctors don't know what they are talking about" : ) We run that risk here as well.... Vets are businessmen/women and the world of Vet medicine is rapidly changing in the same direction as Human Medicine...Vets are incentivized in group practices to sell services AND medications and don't always predicate their decisions on what is best for the patient or owner..THAT is why it is SO important to NOT run from Vet to Vet... find one that you basically trust and stay with them!! Same with MD's.... Even if they are under pressure to " sell " most decent people will allow the long term relationship to count for "something" over time and modify their approach. Most importantly try to learn all you can to discourse _ intelligently_ about your animals disease process so that you can somewhat impassively evaluate the advice you were given by a vet and determine if he/she was simply not paying enough attention to your concerns, or fully grasped them but reached a different conclusion.... The Vet I saw the other day who really did give a careful examination to my Yogi had no investment in me OR my cat but was a professional and did what needed to be done....prescribed sensibly</p><div><p class="MsoNormal">( which resulted in very clear improvement for my cat) but did NOT want to prescribe Winstrol I believe because he could not keep the script in house ( ie...can't get his hands on it and can't make a profit on it)</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The other vet in the same practice that I saw showed no signs of the same profit motive, WAS willing to prescribe Winstrol but gave my guy a FAR more cursory examination( eg...didn't even use a tonometer to measure Intraocular Pressure).. and recommended against using the very drugs that were responsible for my guys improvement...... Who is the better vet?? I don't know... I know that I have to decide on someone with whom to develop a relationship and I could go broke running from Vet to Vet until I find one that I trust right out of the Box... ( BTW....EACH one of the Vets mentioned were recommended to me)..</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Sorry for the length of this "rant"... hope it wasn't an imposition... The brief " take away "... We are the advocates for our FeLV kitties and we owe it to ourselves and them to be as scientifically informed as we can be ... Sadly todays " professionals " are sometimes not a lot different than the Deli clerk who has been instructed to routinely go over when you ask for a "half pound"...... I am old enough to feel a profound sadness at this dilution of the meaning of professional..... Now we really DO have to keep both eyes open</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">until we know our " professional" well.</p></div></div></body></html>