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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>That stress thing I believe is a big factor. Tigger, who apparently had FeLV since he was a kitten, was living a healthy life as an indoor-only cat, and the only other cat I had indoors with him was an old-lady cat named Peekers. They got along great, slept together, ate together, etc. I was unaware that Tigger had FeLV since I had him tested when I found him. Then in November of 2014 I brought in a stray female who was well behaved at first, but then became jealous of the attention I gave Tigger and she would run up behind him and bite him hard. Tigger was stressed out about it and was always looking over his shoulder, wondering when she would bite him next. I believe that is what caused his last FeLV crisis which began in September of 2015. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I have since adopted a one year old female named Topaz, and she came from a shelter through a pet store. They told me she is spayed, wormed and has had all her shots. I asked about testing/vaccinating for FeLV, and they said “FeLV is a crapshoot”. They said the testing is not reliable and the vaccination is often not effective. My vet told me this before that. But <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>the manager of the pet store also said once you vaccinate a cat for FeLV, they will always test positive….does anyone know if this is true or not?</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thank you!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Ardy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Amani Oakley<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>That is very good to know. My experience with FIV has not been good, except for the last little girl I took from the feral colony and treated with Winstrol. She seems fine (great coat now, good size, very playful, etc.) but she still has sounds like she has water on her lungs, though the lungs are clear on xray – I presume the fluid accumulation is still around the lungs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I am glad to hear that FIV cats can live a long time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Amani<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Felvtalk [<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org">mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lee<br><b>Sent:</b> May-25-16 11:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] FIV groups<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-CA>Hi, FIV is not the horrid disease that some people think it is. I'm glad the shelter allowed you to adopt these cats. The main thing is that they live stress-free and have good food, clean water and plenty of love. I did FIV rescue for many years. Most of the cats lived to be 14 to 16 years old without any major illness and passed from kidney failure and old age. The best FIV group is the FIV2 group, if it still exists. I still have one FIV+ cat who was slated for death at the Humane Society 12 years ago but the adoption coordinator knew I was aware that these cats could live long, healthy lives so she called me and we traded one of my adoptable foster cats for the FIV cat she had at the shelter. As long as your cats are neutered or spayed they won't pass on the disease, even if they live with cats that do not have it. FIV is passed on from deep bites during mating and fighting during mating so you really do not have to keep fixed cats separate. Good luck with your two fur kids.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>On May 24, 2016 4:58 PM, Christine Dundas <<a href="mailto:christinedundas@gmail.com">christinedundas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-CA>Check Yahoo groups. They have groups for FIV.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>On May 24, 2016 3:26 PM, "barbe berbes" <<a href="mailto:berbes55@gmail.com">berbes55@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-CA>Both of my babies have FIV, both adopted from shelter. Does anyone know of a support group I can join to better helpe to help keep my little one healthy as Iong as possible? I know very little about FIV and this group doesn't address their issues directly. Thank you for any help and/or advice!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>On May 24, 2016 2:17 PM, "Roxanne Smith" <<a href="mailto:rescuek9lives@sbcglobal.net">rescuek9lives@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I live in Milwaukee and know several good holistic vets<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Dr Heidi Meier out of Community Vet Clinic<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>and Dr. Ali Troutman, I think her clinic is Integrated Vet Clinic<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Both are nice vets--I like them both<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I use Dr Meier for foster care<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>and I have been to Dr Ali for several of my own very sick animals. Both are sweet vets.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> swacht <<a href="mailto:swacht1946@comcast.net">swacht1946@comcast.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:felinerescue@frontier.com">felinerescue@frontier.com</a>; <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:33 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span lang=EN-CA style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br>There was someone who lives in the Milwaukee, WI area looking for a Holistic <br>Vet - I have nieces who live in Madison, WI who found one there<br>Full Circle Veterinary<br>Holistic Veterinary Care<br><br>I don't remember who and there are so many posts to go through<br><br>Sandy W<br><br>-----Original Message----- <br>From: Lorrie<br>Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:18 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Availability of Winstrol<br><br>Thank you very much Ardy. Now to get my vet to comply.<br><br>Lorrie<br>-<br><br>On 05-19, Ardy Robertson wrote:<br>> Hi Lorrie,<br>><br>> I found Winstrol (Stanozolol) at a compounding pharmacy called Diamond <br>> Back<br>> Drugs in Arizona. They offered it in other forms besides liquid, I can't<br>> remember all of them so they might have it in pill form. I bought it in<br>> liquid because that was easier for me to give to Tigger and he liked the<br>> salmon flavor. I would let him smell the syringe before I gave it and he <br>> did<br>> not try to avoid it. The company's website is<br>> <a href="http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com/">http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com/</a> and their phone number is <br>> <a href="tel:866-578-4420">866-578-4420</a>.<br>><br>> I found them to be very good to work with, very efficient and also caring.<br>> The company seems large, but they take time to talk with you individually<br>> also. The vet had to fill out the prescription online, or fax it to them.<br>> Then they would call me to verify the address, and for me to give them<br>> payment by credit card. I paid $42 for a 25 day supply.<br>><br>> Hope this helps. If they do not have pill form, you might be able to find<br>> other sources by googling "compounding pharmacy veterinarian".<br>> Ardy<br>><br>><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Felvtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br><a href="http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org">http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org</a> <br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Felvtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br><a href="http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org">http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-CA><br>_______________________________________________<br>Felvtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br><a href="http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org">http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-CA><br>_______________________________________________<br>Felvtalk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org">Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br><a href="http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org">http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>