<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body ><div>Good morning.</div><div>I recently posted about losing my four year old Sam, to feline leukemia. I took his brother , Domino, in to get him tested. He was negative, and my vet gave him the vaccine, along with 3 year rabies, and two other things, and he had a terrible reaction, which abated after four days .</div><div>During Dom visit, I asked her about Winstrol. She almost seemed as if it were a taboo subject, although she agreed that the elevated liver enzymes drop after stopping it for a few days. </div><div><br></div><div>I wish she had not been so busy that day. As I'd have loved to talk with her more, about why vets seem so frightened of winstrol. She did mention it being a med abused by athletes. Perhaps they fear a stigma being attached to their names, for even prescribing it, or someone potentially abusing it?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757">Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device</div></div><br><br><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: felvtalk-request@felineleukemia.org </div><div>Date:12/18/2015 1:00 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org </div><div>Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 20, Issue 9 </div><div><br></div>Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to<br> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org<br><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> felvtalk-request@felineleukemia.org<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> felvtalk-owner@felineleukemia.org<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Winstrol (dlgegg@windstream.net)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 19:29:09 -0600<br>From: <dlgegg@windstream.net><br>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol<br>Message-ID: <20151217202909.ZX454.38044.root@pamxwww11-z01><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br><br>OFF TOPIC: IS THERE A WAY TO INCLUDE A STOCK PHOTO OF A CAT SO WE COULD PIN THESE ONTO PINTEREST? OR DOE THAT GET TOO COMPLICATED? <br><br><br>---- Amani Oakley <aoakley@oakleylegal.com> wrote: <br>> This seems to be a key concern of vets, but if you do more checking on line, you find that there are no reports of actual liver damage (in animals or in people for that matter). The enzymes temporarily rise, then fall when discontinued, with no lasting liver effects. One vet told me that the combination of Winstrol and prednisolone may be beneficial because the prednisolone may buffer any liver impact of the Winstrol. In my experience, when I have used the Winstrol, in two cats I saw the liver enzymes rise (one very dramatically) but both had their levels return to normal after only a few day off the Winstrol.<br>> <br>> Unfortunately, this dramatic rise is the reason I have been given by vets as to why they all stopped using Winstrol several decades ago. There was a report of potential liver DAMAGE, but in the end, that hasn?t been borne out by any research or confirmed in the literature.<br>> <br>> Amani<br>> <br>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gidget43@aol.com<br>> Sent: December-01-15 2:39 PM<br>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol<br>> <br>> I read here that while on Winstrol, a cat's liver values can elevate. Could it cause liver disease?<br>> Also has anyone used Denamarin to support the liver? Or is it not good for FeLV kitties?<br>> <br>> http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/cat/cat-liver-health/denamarin-for-cats<br>> <br>> or even milk thistle?<br>> <br>> Nancy<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Subject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Felvtalk mailing list<br>Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 20, Issue 9<br>***************************************<br></body>