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<font size="3">Maya raises a frequent concern. I certainly recommend that everyone do their own research, and decide for them selves what they are willing (or not willing) to pursue. I spent several years on an email list for cats in kidney failure, and another for feline anemia. Both had members who used these drugs successfully, and while the possibility of an antibody reaction was often mentioned I don't recall hearing of an instance of it occurring. Doesn't mean it doesn't, just that you need to consider risk vs benefit.<br></font></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0" align="justify"><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br></font></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0" align="justify"><font face="Arial"><font size="3">From;</font></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0" align="justify"><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br></font></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0" align="justify"><font face="Arial"><font size="3">http://www.felinecrf.org/esas.htm</font></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0" align="justify"><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br></font></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0" align="justify"><font face="Arial"><font size="3">'The antibody reaction is discussed </font>
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<a style="color: #CC00CC" href="http://www.felinecrf.org/esas.htm#esa_antibody_risk">below</a></font><font size="3">, but
that is not normally seen (if it occurs at all) until the cat has been
on an ESA for 4-5 months. This section focuses on the risks
to be aware of as soon as you start using an ESA.</font></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0" align="justify"><br></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0" align="justify"><font face="Arial"><font size="3">All the best,</font></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0" align="justify"><br></p><p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0" align="justify"><font face="Arial"><font size="3">Margo<br></font></font></p></font><br><br><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 0px; border-left: #0000ff 2px solid; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial,sans-serif; color: black;">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Maya D'Alessio <mdelow@gmail.com>
<br>Sent: Oct 27, 2015 7:54 PM
<br>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
<br>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
<br><br><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.8px">I would be careful about using erythropoeitin or darbepoeitin, both have been shown to eventually (but not in every case) cause the cat's own immune system to recognize the drug and destroy it, which would be less of a problem if that was it, but unfortunately it also starts to recognize the cats own natural erythropoeitin and destroy it as well. This ends catastrophically badly, as without erythropoeitin, very little blood cell production is able to happen in the body. It seems to take some time for this reaction to happen, but I was just reading up on it for my guy (Merlot), and from what I read I would be very hesitant to use it. I would try Winstrol or something else first, before I tried the erythropoeitin.</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Marsha <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" href="mailto:martia@lynxe.com">martia@lynxe.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Amani, was one of the other medications
darbepoetin alfa (Aranesp)? I just heard about that today when I
called my local vet to see if he has ever used Winstrol. He
hasn't used it for ages, but suggested that if anemia was the only
issue, darbepoetin might be a possibility. This would be for my
cat Peaches, who has multiple myeloma and is FeLV negative. The
MM impacted her kidneys. She started chemo in August
(cyclophosphamide), and is slowly improving appetite-wise, but she
lost a lot of weight. I think at her checkup next week, we will
see a full remission, or close to it. But her kidneys may have
been impacted for the long term. I am looking into Winstrol to
help her bulk up (she had a bit of muscle wasting), improve
appetite, and to help with her anemia. She will be getting an
iron injection for sure.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Marsha</font></span><span class=""><br>
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On 10/20/2015 7:30 PM, Amani Oakley wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
feel for you Maya. If there are issues with anemia, then
none of the other medications he has Merlin on, will touch
the anemia, other than the Winstrol. Tell him you will sign
a form if he wants you to do that, indicating that you take
full responsibility for treating with Winstrol, but you want
him to get it for you. Period. I just wouldn’t put up with
that kind of thing, but of course, in the middle of a crisis
is no time to be looking for a new vet (unless you want to
travel to Toronto).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Maya D'Alessio<div>PhD student</div><div>B1 377B, x32320</div><div>Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator</div><div>Biology GSA Vice Chair</div><div>GSA Director At-Large</div><div>University of Waterloo</div></div></div>
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