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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Maya<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I don’t think that the fever would last that long, but the appetite depression isn’t just about the fever. With Zander, it was a slow climb back, with me having
to sit with him at least two times a day in a separate room while I encouraged him to eat. It took a while before his appetite was robust again. Winstrol again is prescribed specifically for that very thing – as an appetite stimulant. This is why I am so fixated
on this stuff. It helps them feel better, it builds up their strength and muscles, it improves their appetites, it is used in chronic anemia to increase red cell production . . . I know I sound like one of those infomercials but the stuff is like it’s weight
in gold to me. And the down side is a chance of liver damage which I have never seen in any of my cats, and if your cat is dying from an incurable disease, then what is the point of being cautious about his liver anyway??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The food you are giving him is fine. I like the baby food because it is easy for them to digest and they tend to like it and it is easy to syringe, but A/D is
obviously great for all those reasons as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Amani<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Maya D'Alessio<br>
<b>Sent:</b> October-20-15 2:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you Amani, I really, really appreciate the support. I will agree with you that I do see the negative aspect of outlook from vets. With my last cat, I was less informed, and agreed with everything the vets were suggesting, including
euthanization, as I was told she would just die slowly otherwise. Maybe her outlook could have been improved with some time and TLC. I feel a bit better with your 1 month time line, I was worried about a time line of days. Have your cats continued with fevers
for that long? I am really concerned about how soon we should expect the fever to turn around. I think once his fever gets better he has a much better chance of regaining his appetite.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have been syringe feeding the AD food (I think it's science diet), we are trying to get 1 can in to him every day. I know he's not extremely comfortable right now, but he has been a bit more active in the last day. He's not grooming at
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Amani Oakley <<a href="mailto:aoakley@oakleylegal.com" target="_blank">aoakley@oakleylegal.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Maya, I will send you a private email with my vet’s name and phone number.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regarding the intake of food, you need to support him while he fights this thing. I don’t think anyone
can give you a hard and fast time frame regarding when to stop, but I will do my utmost to give my cats every chance. I usually can get sufficient baby food into them via syringe if necessary, for an extended period of time usually. I continue as long as I
see that it is helping to allow him to live to fight another day. With something like leukemia, when they crash, you really should expect at least a month of convalescence and reduced appetite, while hopefully other things like the Winstrol start to increase
his blood counts. He needs to keep eating while his blood counts go up, and you need to give him the time to recover.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I know that other people have a very different view, and I have learned that people really are of two
minds on this. I think it is a personal decision, but for me, I don’t give up unless I see there is no hope, and I don’t give up well after my vets are ready to throw in the towel. Thankfully, my vets know me well enough and trust me enough now, to let me
work as hard as I can to save my cats. They provide support and help and advice, and have been wonderful enough to admit when I am successful when they had predicted nothing but failure.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Felvtalk
[mailto:<a href="mailto:felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org" target="_blank">felvtalk-bounces@felineleukemia.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Maya D'Alessio<br>
<b>Sent:</b> October-20-15 1:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" target="_blank">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">He is mentioning AZT and interferon, but Merlot has a persistent fever and won't eat, I am assuming his body is not up to those drugs yet. He's currently on doxy, prednisolone and
mirtazipine (appetite stimulant), and they gave him an antinauseant shot last night (cevinia I think).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Question to the larger group; my cat is uncomfortable (although better than yesterday), I have to force feed him and he's on a ton of drugs. How long is this feasible? How long
should I let it go if we don't see improvement? How do you make that call. With my last cat, she deteriorated so rapidly and it was so dire that it was a pretty straight forward call.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Amani Oakley <<a href="mailto:aoakley@oakleylegal.com" target="_blank">aoakley@oakleylegal.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Seriously, I have to wonder about some vets. What is he offering you that will help your cat??<br>
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Anyhow, all I can say is I am happy I have a supportive vet. I will send you some links to stuff about Winstrol, but it is hard to find since the mind-set you have encountered already, is all too common, even when our cats are dying and there are few realistic
alternatives.<br>
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Most of the links I will send to you will not speak to the use of Winstrol specifically for FeLV, but speak to things like building up strength and improving appetite.<br>
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Here is the first - very generic.<br>
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<a href="http://www.petplace.com/article/drug-library/library/prescription/stanozolol-winstrol" target="_blank">http://www.petplace.com/article/drug-library/library/prescription/stanozolol-winstrol</a><br>
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P.S. - I also noticed you are not far from me. My vet is in Etobicoke, in the outskirts of Toronto. Perhaps your vet should call my vet?<br>
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