Okay, no need to shout lol Personally, if my vet wouldn't treat my positive "<span></span>unvaxxed for rabies" cat, I'd find a different vet. But, vet issue aside, i totally understand her stance since the bat but her cat. Totally. <div>
<br>On Thursday, August 14, 2014, <<a href="mailto:dlgegg@windstream.net">dlgegg@windstream.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">SOME VETS WILL NOT TREAT AN UNVACCINATED CAT, POS OR NOT.<br>
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---- Kat Parker <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'korruptakitty@gmail.com')">korruptakitty@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Why do the rabies? I would do the fvrcp before the rabies and i won't so<br>
> either one. If your cat is not outside at all, which especially with being<br>
> positive i think not, and you don't have rabid animals around, again,<br>
> probably not the case, why on earth would you give a rabies shot to a<br>
> positive cat? The law is ot going to be enforced in your home it's not a<br>
> big deal, but over vaccinating a positive cat is a big deal. They have that<br>
> antibody problem of course and rabies vaccines are done to develop<br>
> antibodies.<br>
><br>
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> > 2. Re: New & have question (<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'dlgegg@windstream.net')">dlgegg@windstream.net</a> <javascript:;>)<br>
> > 3. Re: FELV contagious (<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'dlgegg@windstream.net')">dlgegg@windstream.net</a> <javascript:;>)<br>
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> > Message: 1<br>
> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:44:06 -0400<br>
> > From: Shelley Theye <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'veery@bellsouth.net')">veery@bellsouth.net</a> <javascript:;>><br>
> > To: <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org')">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a> <javascript:;><br>
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] fvrcp vaccines- yes or no?<br>
> > Message-ID: <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', '79D7A665-5346-488D-90A8-62C6C5664C2F@bellsouth.net')">79D7A665-5346-488D-90A8-62C6C5664C2F@bellsouth.net</a><br>
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> > Hi Lance,<br>
> ><br>
> > I am not sure! I will ask her. She is pretty great. Didn't even<br>
> > consider euth. when he tested positive. Went ahead and neutered Leo and<br>
> > told me the news later that day.<br>
> ><br>
> > I just keep thinking about what the folks on this list said last year when<br>
> > I asked, that their cats became sick after vaccinating.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks for letting me know that Ember did OK without vaccines at the vet<br>
> > clinic. I don't know if they make a purevax FVRCP.<br>
> ><br>
> > We will do the Rabies, and vet said to wait at least 2 weeks between<br>
> > vaccines if do the FVRCP. I thought that was good of her<br>
> > to suggest too, because it is better not to do them all at once. I never<br>
> > realized that until a few years ago.<br>
> ><br>
> > I'll let you all know if I find out anything on this, will probably just<br>
> > do the rabies though for now.<br>
> ><br>
> > Shelley<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Lance <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'linimon@fastmail.fm')">linimon@fastmail.fm</a> <javascript:;>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > I wish I had an answer for you. Would your vet be willing to log onto<br>
> > Vetinfo to see what other vets are recommending for FeLV cats? I seem to<br>
> > recall that Ember?s vet recommended that she be vaccinated, but we never<br>
> > did that. Despite her low white count, she never picked anything up at the<br>
> > vet?s office as far as I know. Even the dentals didn?t weaken her enough.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > If Purevax makes an FVRCP vaccine, that might be the better one to go<br>
> > with. It is supposed to have less possibility of causing a fibrosarcoma (we<br>
> > used to call them vax site sarcomas).<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Also, you?re not overthinking this. You?re being a good and protective<br>
> > cat parent.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Best wishes for you and Leo,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Lance<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Shelley Theye <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'veery@bellsouth.net')">veery@bellsouth.net</a><br>
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > >> Hi All,<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> I asked last year when Leo was due for his yearly check-up, about how<br>
> > everyone feels about vaccinating<br>
> > >> their Leukemia pos. cats in general.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> The replies I received cautioned not to vaccinate for FVRCP, that is<br>
> > caused cats to become ill afterwards.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> I have to get Leo vacc. for rabies since it is the law, will do the<br>
> > Purevax like I did last year, but he<br>
> > >> has only received one FVRCP vacc. back in summer 2012, when I first got<br>
> > him and he was neutered and<br>
> > >> I wasn't told about his FeLV status until afterwards. At the time I<br>
> > thought he was a feral cat, he actually was,<br>
> > >> but has since become quite tame.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Last year, in 2013, I opted not to do the FVRCP, because of the<br>
> > cautionary emails on the subject.<br>
> > >> I guess my only worry is that he will be more susceptible in a vet<br>
> > clinic when he goes in for a check up for<br>
> > >> for treatment if he doesn't have that vaccine, so just would like to<br>
> > throw this out there again for thoughts on<br>
> > >> this subject. Also, is there a certain type of FVRCP that might be<br>
> > less dangerous, etc?<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> I have done some reading on Dr. Lisa Pierson's website, and sounds like<br>
> > he should maybe have at least 2 vaccines<br>
> > >> as an adult and then can stop. Am I overthinking this?<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Thanks for any advice. So far, knock on wood, he is doing great,<br>
> > though he is lonely, but I think since he was initially<br>
> > >> semi-feral, the quiet lifestyle suits him. we built him a nice mini<br>
> > screened porch/large window box which he really enjoys<br>
> > >> and spend time with him daily.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Best,<br>
> > >> Shelley<br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
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> > Message: 2<br>
> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:52:09 -0500<br>
> > From: <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'dlgegg@windstream.net')">dlgegg@windstream.net</a> <javascript:;>><br>
> > To: <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org')">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a> <javascript:;><br>
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New & have question<br>
> > Message-ID: <20140813175209.WYRYT.48742.root@pamxwww05-z01><br>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br>
> ><br>
> > i HAVE STARTED OIL PULLING FOR MYSELF WITH COCONUT OIL. IT IS A GOOD<br>
> > ANTIBACTERIAL, ETC. AND MIGHT HELP YOUR CAT. I USE A TABLESPOON EACH DAY,<br>
> > IT TASTES GOOD AND MY HARLEY ALWAYS WANTS TO LICK MY FINGERS AFTERWARDS.<br>
> > (I JUST SCOOP A FINGER FULL (ABOUT 1 TABLESPOON) AND PUT IT IN MY MOUTH.)<br>
> > ---- Lance <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'linimon@fastmail.fm')">linimon@fastmail.fm</a> <javascript:;>> wrote:<br>
> > > I don?t know of any supplements that are specifically geared toward oral<br>
> > health. Someone else may have some helpful info. I know that CET makes pet<br>
> > dental products, including a water additive. Googling for them should bring<br>
> > up their site. I believe they?re owned by Virbac.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > After she tested positive, I gave my FeLV+ girl interferon alpha and DMG<br>
> > (both are general immune system boosters) for most of her life. I often<br>
> > gave her Prescription Diet t/d as a ?treat?. We rarely had any gum or teeth<br>
> > issues, though she did need several cleanings. The t/d would not be good<br>
> > for a kitty already dealing with any mouth pain.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Best wishes for you and the calico kitten,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Lance<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'sweet2bcotasue@att.net')">sweet2bcotasue@att.net</a><br>
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > Hi everyone,<br>
> > > > I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original<br>
> > test and this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+. I have 7 other cats and have<br>
> > done rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs. We are waiting on IFA results now.<br>
> > I was reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote<br>
> > oral health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post. Can<br>
> > someone help me with that info? Am waiting on labs now to decide on course<br>
> > of treatment. Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats.<br>
> > > > Thanks, Susan<br>
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> > ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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> ><br>
> > Message: 3<br>
> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:53:35 -0500<br>
> > From: <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'dlgegg@windstream.net')">dlgegg@windstream.net</a> <javascript:;>><br>
> > To: <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org')">felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</a> <javascript:;><br>
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious<br>
> > Message-ID: <20140813175335.NI5VP.48748.root@pamxwww05-z01><br>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br>
> ><br>
> > THAT IS THE ONLY VACCINE I GET NOW AND I MAY STOP IT SINCE MY PRIDE DOES<br>
> > NOT GET INTO BITING FIGHTS, JUST SNARLING AND HISSING AND SWATTING.<br>
> > ---- "Katherine K." <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'kathstix@gmail.com')">kathstix@gmail.com</a> <javascript:;>> wrote:<br>
> > > Hi Maya,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out one<br>
> > was<br>
> > > positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against<br>
> > FeLV.<br>
> > > But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If you<br>
> > do<br>
> > > decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is<br>
> > > vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You<br>
> > could<br>
> > > alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to contact<br>
> > > you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for FeLV or<br>
> > if<br>
> > > they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue websites.<br>
> > We<br>
> > > have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always dumping or<br>
> > > rehoming their pets.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive cat.<br>
> > > But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death row,<br>
> > and<br>
> > > certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have done<br>
> > > it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for<br>
> > > Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! <3<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Katherine<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'mdelow@gmail.com')">mdelow@gmail.com</a><br>
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely. He is used to being second in<br>
> > > > command to our cat Yang who passed away.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until<br>
> > > > they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are<br>
> > really<br>
> > > > sick). She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing<br>
> > another<br>
> > > > cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune<br>
> > compromised,<br>
> > > > etc. This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > I'm not sure who to believe here. Obviously FELV is contagious, and<br>
> > it is<br>
> > > > passed from cat to cat. The chance of that increases with increased<br>
> > > > contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been<br>
> > running<br>
> > > > the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died<br>
> > from<br>
> > > > it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test<br>
> > > > negative for FELV recently. I can't imagine being responsible for<br>
> > exposing<br>
> > > > another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for<br>
> > > > Merlot who is lonely. I was thining maybe I would consider (in six<br>
> > months<br>
> > > > or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.<br>
> > > > ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put<br>
> > down.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > --<br>
> > > > Maya D'Alessio<br>
> > > > PhD student<br>
> > > > B1 377B, x32320<br>
> > > > Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator<br>
> > > > Biology GSA Vice Chair<br>
> > > > GSA Director At-Large<br>
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