From pilotom at bellsouth.net  Wed Aug  5 17:58:50 2020
From: pilotom at bellsouth.net (Maribel Piloto)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 18:58:50 -0400
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.   My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.   Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.   I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.   I need it quickly.

Maribel 

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi


From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Wed Aug  5 18:06:16 2020
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 23:06:16 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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I don?t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They may be able to order it sooner.

However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn?t tell from his behaviour. 

Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to you sooner so you don?t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn?t an option.

Amani

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.   My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.   Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.   I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.   I need it quickly.

Maribel 

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-Mohandas Ghandi

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From pilotom at bellsouth.net  Wed Aug  5 18:24:43 2020
From: pilotom at bellsouth.net (Maribel Piloto)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 19:24:43 -0400
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order it.  

Amy is not eating.  I?m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving her some subq fluids.

Maribel 

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I don?t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They may be able to order it sooner.
> 
> However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn?t tell from his behaviour. 
> 
> Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to you sooner so you don?t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn?t an option.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
> 
> Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.   My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.   Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.   I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.   I need it quickly.
> 
> Maribel 
> 
> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> -Mohandas Ghandi
> 
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From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Wed Aug  5 18:30:03 2020
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 23:30:03 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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Can you get the vet to call the pharmacy and order the meds urgently? I agree that if Amy is not eating, Winstrol may be helpful on that score as well, and you cannot wait until Monday if she isn?t eating.

One thing I learned how to do with cats who weren?t eating is to take soft wet cat food, ball it up into a ball about the size of a marble, pry open their mouths, and lob the food to the back of the throat. Some of it gets spit back up, but once you get the hang of it, most of it goes down. I have found that doing it this way also seems to cause the cat to ultimately get a bit more interested in eating, once some of the food has gone down - usually after a few sittings though.

I agree that giving her baby food via syringe is also a good way to get food into a cat who won't eat on her own.

Amani

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: August 5, 2020 7:25 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order it.  

Amy is not eating.  I?m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving her some subq fluids.

Maribel 

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I don?t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They may be able to order it sooner.
> 
> However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn?t tell from his behaviour. 
> 
> Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to you sooner so you don?t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn?t an option.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
> 
> Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.   My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.   Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.   I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.   I need it quickly.
> 
> Maribel 
> 
> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> -Mohandas Ghandi
> 
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From swacht1946 at comcast.net  Wed Aug  5 19:34:56 2020
From: swacht1946 at comcast.net (Sandra Wachtstetter)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 20:34:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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Maribel, I don't have a solution, but I'm sure praying for you and Amy. 
Sandy W
> On 08/05/2020 7:24 PM Maribel Piloto <pilotom at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order it.  
> 
> Amy is not eating.  I?m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving her some subq fluids.
> 
> Maribel 
> 
> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> -Mohandas Ghandi
> 
> > On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > 
> > ?I don?t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They may be able to order it sooner.
> > 
> > However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn?t tell from his behaviour. 
> > 
> > Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to you sooner so you don?t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn?t an option.
> > 
> > Amani
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> > Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM
> > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
> > 
> > Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.   My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.   Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.   I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.   I need it quickly.
> > 
> > Maribel 
> > 
> > "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> > -Mohandas Ghandi
> > 
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From pilotom at bellsouth.net  Thu Aug  6 11:38:59 2020
From: pilotom at bellsouth.net (Maribel Piloto)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 16:38:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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	<399E069A-C1AA-4309-A4D7-286AE0386F39@bellsouth.net>
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The problem is that force feeding her is stressing her out.? ?I tried to syringe feed her some baby food with liqui-tinic this morning and she started breathing open mouth and moaning.? ?She just gets up to turn positions now and just lays back down.? I know she needs another blood transfusion but after paying $3500 for the first two I have no funds left.? Even that I was only able to pay with the help from a friend and a GoFundMe fundraiser.
They never were able to figure out what is causing the anemia.? She is neither FIV nor Leuk pos.? ?She tested negative for a slew of blood parasite and other parasites they tested for.? ?The Winstrol is my last hope but I fear that by the time I get it she will be gone or too weak.? ?I live in South Florida and cannot believe that there isn't a place anywhere around here where I can't get that.? I've been calling every pharmacy in town it seems.
Maribel?
"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi 

    On Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 07:35:28 PM EDT, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:  
 
 Can you get the vet to call the pharmacy and order the meds urgently? I agree that if Amy is not eating, Winstrol may be helpful on that score as well, and you cannot wait until Monday if she isn?t eating.

One thing I learned how to do with cats who weren?t eating is to take soft wet cat food, ball it up into a ball about the size of a marble, pry open their mouths, and lob the food to the back of the throat. Some of it gets spit back up, but once you get the hang of it, most of it goes down. I have found that doing it this way also seems to cause the cat to ultimately get a bit more interested in eating, once some of the food has gone down - usually after a few sittings though.

I agree that giving her baby food via syringe is also a good way to get food into a cat who won't eat on her own.

Amani

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: August 5, 2020 7:25 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order it.? 

Amy is not eating.? I?m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving her some subq fluids.

Maribel 

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I don?t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They may be able to order it sooner.
> 
> However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn?t tell from his behaviour. 
> 
> Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to you sooner so you don?t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn?t an option.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
> 
> Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.? My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.? Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.? I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.? I need it quickly.
> 
> Maribel 
> 
> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> -Mohandas Ghandi
> 
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From dlgegg at windstream.net  Thu Aug  6 14:06:53 2020
From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 15:06:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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have they tested for internal bleeding? maybe is hemoraging.   i was syringe feeding my 12 year old Homey.  had to cover my lap .  i mixed the canned food with warm water so would go through 20ml syringe.  then broke my right arm and had to stop,is eating maybe a spoon full each day, just enough to keep her alive.  she stopped after some time on Felimazole 2.5mg.  also after started giving treats as reward for taking pill.  loves the treats but not her food.  have tried to mix treats with food in blender, no go.  going to try your method of balling up the food.  may be neater and get more down her.
----- Original Message -----
From: Maribel Piloto <pilotom at bellsouth.net>
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:38:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

The problem is that force feeding her is stressing her out.   I tried to syringe feed her some baby food with liqui-tinic this morning and she started breathing open mouth and moaning.   She just gets up to turn positions now and just lays back down.  I know she needs another blood transfusion but after paying $3500 for the first two I have no funds left.  Even that I was only able to pay with the help from a friend and a GoFundMe fundraiser.
They never were able to figure out what is causing the anemia.  She is neither FIV nor Leuk pos.   She tested negative for a slew of blood parasite and other parasites they tested for.   The Winstrol is my last hope but I fear that by the time I get it she will be gone or too weak.   I live in South Florida and cannot believe that there isn't a place anywhere around here where I can't get that.  I've been calling every pharmacy in town it seems.
Maribel 
"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi


 On Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 07:35:28 PM EDT, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:


Can you get the vet to call the pharmacy and order the meds urgently? I agree that if Amy is not eating, Winstrol may be helpful on that score as well, and you cannot wait until Monday if she isn?t eating.One thing I learned how to do with cats who weren?t eating is to take soft wet cat food, ball it up into a ball about the size of a marble, pry open their mouths, and lob the food to the back of the throat. Some of it gets spit back up, but once you get the hang of it, most of it goes down. I have found that doing it this way also seems to cause the cat to ultimately get a bit more interested in eating, once some of the food has gone down - usually after a few sittings though.I agree that giving her baby food via syringe is also a good way to get food into a cat who won't eat on her own.Amani-----Original Message-----From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel PilotoSent: August 5, 2020 7:25 PMTo: felvtalk at felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order it.  Amy is not eating.  I?m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving her some subq fluids.Maribel "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."-Mohandas Ghandi> On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:> > ?I don?t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They may be able to order it sooner.> > However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn?t tell from his behaviour. > > Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to you sooner so you don?t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn?t an option.> > Amani> > -----Original Message-----> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto> Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)> > Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.  My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.  Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.  I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.  I need it quickly.> > Maribel > > "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."> -Mohandas Ghandi> > _______________________________________________> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> _______________________________________________> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org_______________________________________________Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk at felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org_______________________________________________Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk at felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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From jennifer at brandbooster.com  Thu Aug  6 14:56:46 2020
From: jennifer at brandbooster.com (Jennifer Minnich)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 15:56:46 -0400
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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Dear Maribel,   for Amy?s sake, If she is not eating for other reasons and can be saved & nursed back to health, that is one thing..... IF she is in the actual dying process, in any final stages of dying,  you are doing more harm than good with forcing fluids and forcing food down her throat, particularly when she?s telling you to stop with open mouth breathing (clear sign of respiratory distress) and pain (moaning).  When a body is dying,  it naturally stops eating and drinking... this is coming from hospice and animal hospice experience.    Please try to talk to your vets,  or research ?stages of dying?  in order to articulate where amy is at, and not to confuse actual stages of dying signs with other sorts of symptoms of illness.... ( btw, brighthaven.org is an excellent resource for this information and guidance that I have referenced ? they also have amazingly compassionate consultations if you need guidance of what to look for...)... 
    Wishing you and Amy love and comfort...
Jennifer


> On Aug 6, 2020, at 3:06 PM, "dlgegg at windstream.net" <dlgegg at windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> have they tested for internal bleeding? maybe is hemoraging.   i was syringe feeding my 12 year old Homey.  had to cover my lap .  i mixed the canned food with warm water so would go through 20ml syringe.  then broke my right arm and had to stop,is eating maybe a spoon full each day, just enough to keep her alive.  she stopped after some time on Felimazole 2.5mg.  also after started giving treats as reward for taking pill.  loves the treats but not her food.  have tried to mix treats with food in blender, no go.  going to try your method of balling up the food.  may be neater and get more down her.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Maribel Piloto <pilotom at bellsouth.net>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:38:59 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
> 
> The problem is that force feeding her is stressing her out.   I tried to syringe feed her some baby food with liqui-tinic this morning and she started breathing open mouth and moaning.   She just gets up to turn positions now and just lays back down.  I know she needs another blood transfusion but after paying $3500 for the first two I have no funds left.  Even that I was only able to pay with the help from a friend and a GoFundMe fundraiser.
> 
> They never were able to figure out what is causing the anemia.  She is neither FIV nor Leuk pos.   She tested negative for a slew of blood parasite and other parasites they tested for.   The Winstrol is my last hope but I fear that by the time I get it she will be gone or too weak.   I live in South Florida and cannot believe that there isn't a place anywhere around here where I can't get that.  I've been calling every pharmacy in town it seems.
> 
> Maribel 
> 
> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> -Mohandas Ghandi
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 07:35:28 PM EDT, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Can you get the vet to call the pharmacy and order the meds urgently? I agree that if Amy is not eating, Winstrol may be helpful on that score as well, and you cannot wait until Monday if she isn?t eating.
> 
> One thing I learned how to do with cats who weren?t eating is to take soft wet cat food, ball it up into a ball about the size of a marble, pry open their mouths, and lob the food to the back of the throat. Some of it gets spit back up, but once you get the hang of it, most of it goes down. I have found that doing it this way also seems to cause the cat to ultimately get a bit more interested in eating, once some of the food has gone down - usually after a few sittings though.
> 
> I agree that giving her baby food via syringe is also a good way to get food into a cat who won't eat on her own.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> Sent: August 5, 2020 7:25 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
> 
> I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order it.  
> 
> Amy is not eating.  I?m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving her some subq fluids.
> 
> Maribel 
> 
> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> -Mohandas Ghandi
> 
> > On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > 
> > ?I don?t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They may be able to order it sooner.
> > 
> > However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn?t tell from his behaviour. 
> > 
> > Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to you sooner so you don?t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn?t an option.
> > 
> > Amani
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> > Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM
> > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
> > 
> > Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.  My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.  Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.  I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.  I need it quickly.
> > 
> > Maribel 
> > 
> > "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> > -Mohandas Ghandi
> > 
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From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Thu Aug  6 18:39:20 2020
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 23:39:20 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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Maribel

I went back at looked at the old emails I have archived, and found that one of the online vet pharmacies recommended by people was Diamondback Pharmacy in Arizona. People were able to get Winstrol in liquid form from them. In looking Diamondback up on the internet, I see another one, Wedgewood Pharmacy, which has testimonials from different placed in the U.S. It may be related to Diamondback. I also see VetRx, an online compounding pharmacy.

I just don?t understand why your vet isn?t helping you with this?

Amani

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: August 6, 2020 12:39 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

The problem is that force feeding her is stressing her out.   I tried to syringe feed her some baby food with liqui-tinic this morning and she started breathing open mouth and moaning.   She just gets up to turn positions now and just lays back down.  I know she needs another blood transfusion but after paying $3500 for the first two I have no funds left.  Even that I was only able to pay with the help from a friend and a GoFundMe fundraiser.

They never were able to figure out what is causing the anemia.  She is neither FIV nor Leuk pos.   She tested negative for a slew of blood parasite and other parasites they tested for.   The Winstrol is my last hope but I fear that by the time I get it she will be gone or too weak.   I live in South Florida and cannot believe that there isn't a place anywhere around here where I can't get that.  I've been calling every pharmacy in town it seems.

Maribel

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi


On Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 07:35:28 PM EDT, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoakley at oakleylegal.com>> wrote:


Can you get the vet to call the pharmacy and order the meds urgently? I agree that if Amy is not eating, Winstrol may be helpful on that score as well, and you cannot wait until Monday if she isn?t eating.

One thing I learned how to do with cats who weren?t eating is to take soft wet cat food, ball it up into a ball about the size of a marble, pry open their mouths, and lob the food to the back of the throat. Some of it gets spit back up, but once you get the hang of it, most of it goes down. I have found that doing it this way also seems to cause the cat to ultimately get a bit more interested in eating, once some of the food has gone down - usually after a few sittings though.

I agree that giving her baby food via syringe is also a good way to get food into a cat who won't eat on her own.

Amani

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: August 5, 2020 7:25 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order it.

Amy is not eating.  I?m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving her some subq fluids.

Maribel

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoakley at oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
>
> ?I don?t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They may be able to order it sooner.
>
> However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn?t tell from his behaviour.
>
> Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to you sooner so you don?t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn?t an option.
>
> Amani
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
>
> Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.  My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.  Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.  I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.  I need it quickly.
>
> Maribel
>
> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> -Mohandas Ghandi
>
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From ardyr at centurytel.net  Thu Aug  6 21:55:12 2020
From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 21:55:12 -0500
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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Hi Maribel - When my beloved kitty Tigger had feline leukemia, I had a very difficult time getting Winstrol anywhere. I finally found a "compounding pharmacy" in Arizona, called Diamondback Drugs. I believe it is called Wedgewood Pharmacy now. Here is a link to their website - https://www.wedgewoodpharmacy.com/about-us/arizona-location.html

They are located at 7631 East Indian School Road, Scottsdale, AZ 85251 and their phone is 800-331-8272. They list their hours as Monday through Friday 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. and Saturday 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. I found them extremely helpful and they had Winstrol in different forms and flavors. I chose the liquid in salmon flavor because it was easier to give Tigg liquid than pills. They also shipped overnight and even called later to see how my cat was doing! Amani can give you the details of the regimen she used to treat her Zander with great success. Best of luck to you and Amy!!

 

 

Thank you,

Ardy Robertson

Osseo  WI  54758

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 5:59 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

 

Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.   My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.   Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.   I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.   I need it quickly.

 

Maribel 

 

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From ardyr at centurytel.net  Thu Aug  6 21:56:41 2020
From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 21:56:41 -0500
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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Maribel - I'm sorry, I didn't see in your original email that you have already been in contact with Wedgewood.
Ardy
-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 5:59 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.   My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.   Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.   I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.   I need it quickly.

Maribel 

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From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Thu Aug  6 22:32:22 2020
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 03:32:22 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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Sorry Maribel ? looking back at your original posting, I see that you ordered the drug from Wedgewood, so my suggestion is not helpful.

Have you got anything around for pain in cats? Buprenorphine, Gabapentin, etc.? If Amy is experiencing significant discomfort or pain, alleviating that will put her in a better frame of mind and may help with her appetite. If the vet can?t get you the Winstrol in a hurry, surely he can assist with some pain medication? My vets give me the Buprenorphine in a dermal cream, which can just be rubbed into the inside of the ears.

Amani

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: August 6, 2020 12:39 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

The problem is that force feeding her is stressing her out.   I tried to syringe feed her some baby food with liqui-tinic this morning and she started breathing open mouth and moaning.   She just gets up to turn positions now and just lays back down.  I know she needs another blood transfusion but after paying $3500 for the first two I have no funds left.  Even that I was only able to pay with the help from a friend and a GoFundMe fundraiser.

They never were able to figure out what is causing the anemia.  She is neither FIV nor Leuk pos.   She tested negative for a slew of blood parasite and other parasites they tested for.   The Winstrol is my last hope but I fear that by the time I get it she will be gone or too weak.   I live in South Florida and cannot believe that there isn't a place anywhere around here where I can't get that.  I've been calling every pharmacy in town it seems.

Maribel

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi


On Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 07:35:28 PM EDT, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoakley at oakleylegal.com>> wrote:


Can you get the vet to call the pharmacy and order the meds urgently? I agree that if Amy is not eating, Winstrol may be helpful on that score as well, and you cannot wait until Monday if she isn?t eating.

One thing I learned how to do with cats who weren?t eating is to take soft wet cat food, ball it up into a ball about the size of a marble, pry open their mouths, and lob the food to the back of the throat. Some of it gets spit back up, but once you get the hang of it, most of it goes down. I have found that doing it this way also seems to cause the cat to ultimately get a bit more interested in eating, once some of the food has gone down - usually after a few sittings though.

I agree that giving her baby food via syringe is also a good way to get food into a cat who won't eat on her own.

Amani

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: August 5, 2020 7:25 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order it.

Amy is not eating.  I?m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving her some subq fluids.

Maribel

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoakley at oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
>
> ?I don?t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They may be able to order it sooner.
>
> However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn?t tell from his behaviour.
>
> Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to you sooner so you don?t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn?t an option.
>
> Amani
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
>
> Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.  My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.  Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.  I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.  I need it quickly.
>
> Maribel
>
> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> -Mohandas Ghandi
>
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From pilotom at bellsouth.net  Thu Aug  6 22:56:46 2020
From: pilotom at bellsouth.net (Maribel Piloto)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 23:56:46 -0400
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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I ordered it from Wedgewood already.   Problem is that even paying $30 for overnighting it they say it won?t get to me until Monday.   They need time to compound it and then there?s the weekend.

Maribel

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi

> On Aug 6, 2020, at 11:39 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Sorry Maribel ? looking back at your original posting, I see that you ordered the drug from Wedgewood, so my suggestion is not helpful.
>  
> Have you got anything around for pain in cats? Buprenorphine, Gabapentin, etc.? If Amy is experiencing significant discomfort or pain, alleviating that will put her in a better frame of mind and may help with her appetite. If the vet can?t get you the Winstrol in a hurry, surely he can assist with some pain medication? My vets give me the Buprenorphine in a dermal cream, which can just be rubbed into the inside of the ears.
>  
> Amani
>  
> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> Sent: August 6, 2020 12:39 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
>  
> The problem is that force feeding her is stressing her out.   I tried to syringe feed her some baby food with liqui-tinic this morning and she started breathing open mouth and moaning.   She just gets up to turn positions now and just lays back down.  I know she needs another blood transfusion but after paying $3500 for the first two I have no funds left.  Even that I was only able to pay with the help from a friend and a GoFundMe fundraiser.
>  
> They never were able to figure out what is causing the anemia.  She is neither FIV nor Leuk pos.   She tested negative for a slew of blood parasite and other parasites they tested for.   The Winstrol is my last hope but I fear that by the time I get it she will be gone or too weak.   I live in South Florida and cannot believe that there isn't a place anywhere around here where I can't get that.  I've been calling every pharmacy in town it seems.
>  
> Maribel 
>  
> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> -Mohandas Ghandi
>  
>  
> On Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 07:35:28 PM EDT, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>  
>  
> Can you get the vet to call the pharmacy and order the meds urgently? I agree that if Amy is not eating, Winstrol may be helpful on that score as well, and you cannot wait until Monday if she isn?t eating.
> 
> One thing I learned how to do with cats who weren?t eating is to take soft wet cat food, ball it up into a ball about the size of a marble, pry open their mouths, and lob the food to the back of the throat. Some of it gets spit back up, but once you get the hang of it, most of it goes down. I have found that doing it this way also seems to cause the cat to ultimately get a bit more interested in eating, once some of the food has gone down - usually after a few sittings though.
> 
> I agree that giving her baby food via syringe is also a good way to get food into a cat who won't eat on her own.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> Sent: August 5, 2020 7:25 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
> 
> I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order it.  
> 
> Amy is not eating.  I?m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving her some subq fluids.
> 
> Maribel 
> 
> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> -Mohandas Ghandi
> 
> > On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > 
> > ?I don?t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They may be able to order it sooner.
> > 
> > However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn?t tell from his behaviour. 
> > 
> > Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to you sooner so you don?t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn?t an option.
> > 
> > Amani
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> > Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM
> > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
> > 
> > Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.  My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.  Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.  I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.  I need it quickly.
> > 
> > Maribel 
> > 
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From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Thu Aug  6 22:53:49 2020
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 03:53:49 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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Do you mean you ordered the Winstrol already from Wedgewood, or are you referring to pain medication being ordered?

Amani

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: August 6, 2020 11:57 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

I ordered it from Wedgewood already.   Problem is that even paying $30 for overnighting it they say it won?t get to me until Monday.   They need time to compound it and then there?s the weekend.

Maribel

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi


On Aug 6, 2020, at 11:39 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoakley at oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
?
Sorry Maribel ? looking back at your original posting, I see that you ordered the drug from Wedgewood, so my suggestion is not helpful.

Have you got anything around for pain in cats? Buprenorphine, Gabapentin, etc.? If Amy is experiencing significant discomfort or pain, alleviating that will put her in a better frame of mind and may help with her appetite. If the vet can?t get you the Winstrol in a hurry, surely he can assist with some pain medication? My vets give me the Buprenorphine in a dermal cream, which can just be rubbed into the inside of the ears.

Amani

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: August 6, 2020 12:39 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

The problem is that force feeding her is stressing her out.   I tried to syringe feed her some baby food with liqui-tinic this morning and she started breathing open mouth and moaning.   She just gets up to turn positions now and just lays back down.  I know she needs another blood transfusion but after paying $3500 for the first two I have no funds left.  Even that I was only able to pay with the help from a friend and a GoFundMe fundraiser.

They never were able to figure out what is causing the anemia.  She is neither FIV nor Leuk pos.   She tested negative for a slew of blood parasite and other parasites they tested for.   The Winstrol is my last hope but I fear that by the time I get it she will be gone or too weak.   I live in South Florida and cannot believe that there isn't a place anywhere around here where I can't get that.  I've been calling every pharmacy in town it seems.

Maribel

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi


On Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 07:35:28 PM EDT, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoakley at oakleylegal.com>> wrote:


Can you get the vet to call the pharmacy and order the meds urgently? I agree that if Amy is not eating, Winstrol may be helpful on that score as well, and you cannot wait until Monday if she isn?t eating.

One thing I learned how to do with cats who weren?t eating is to take soft wet cat food, ball it up into a ball about the size of a marble, pry open their mouths, and lob the food to the back of the throat. Some of it gets spit back up, but once you get the hang of it, most of it goes down. I have found that doing it this way also seems to cause the cat to ultimately get a bit more interested in eating, once some of the food has gone down - usually after a few sittings though.

I agree that giving her baby food via syringe is also a good way to get food into a cat who won't eat on her own.

Amani

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: August 5, 2020 7:25 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order it.

Amy is not eating.  I?m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving her some subq fluids.

Maribel

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoakley at oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
>
> ?I don?t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They may be able to order it sooner.
>
> However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn?t tell from his behaviour.
>
> Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to you sooner so you don?t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn?t an option.
>
> Amani
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
>
> Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.  My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.  Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.  I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.  I need it quickly.
>
> Maribel
>
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> -Mohandas Ghandi
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From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Fri Aug  7 02:30:58 2020
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 07:30:58 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
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Jennifer ? open mouth breathing and pain are also signs of severe anemia. I am sure that Maribel knows her cat and the situation much better than we can ever know it. I think it is important to encourage and support each other when we are trying to save a cat. I know that I have saved far far far too many cats who had been labeled as dying, and not save-able.

Amani

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Jennifer Minnich
Sent: August 6, 2020 3:57 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

Dear Maribel,   for Amy?s sake, If she is not eating for other reasons and can be saved & nursed back to health, that is one thing..... IF she is in the actual dying process, in any final stages of dying,  you are doing more harm than good with forcing fluids and forcing food down her throat, particularly when she?s telling you to stop with open mouth breathing (clear sign of respiratory distress) and pain (moaning).  When a body is dying,  it naturally stops eating and drinking... this is coming from hospice and animal hospice experience.    Please try to talk to your vets,  or research ?stages of dying?  in order to articulate where amy is at, and not to confuse actual stages of dying signs with other sorts of symptoms of illness.... ( btw, brighthaven.org<http://brighthaven.org> is an excellent resource for this information and guidance that I have referenced ? they also have amazingly compassionate consultations if you need guidance of what to look for...)...
    Wishing you and Amy love and comfort...
Jennifer


On Aug 6, 2020, at 3:06 PM, "dlgegg at windstream.net<mailto:dlgegg at windstream.net>" <dlgegg at windstream.net<mailto:dlgegg at windstream.net>> wrote:
have they tested for internal bleeding? maybe is hemoraging.   i was syringe feeding my 12 year old Homey.  had to cover my lap .  i mixed the canned food with warm water so would go through 20ml syringe.  then broke my right arm and had to stop,is eating maybe a spoon full each day, just enough to keep her alive.  she stopped after some time on Felimazole 2.5mg.  also after started giving treats as reward for taking pill.  loves the treats but not her food.  have tried to mix treats with food in blender, no go.  going to try your method of balling up the food.  may be neater and get more down her.

----- Original Message -----
From: Maribel Piloto <pilotom at bellsouth.net<mailto:pilotom at bellsouth.net>>
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 12:38:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

The problem is that force feeding her is stressing her out.   I tried to syringe feed her some baby food with liqui-tinic this morning and she started breathing open mouth and moaning.   She just gets up to turn positions now and just lays back down.  I know she needs another blood transfusion but after paying $3500 for the first two I have no funds left.  Even that I was only able to pay with the help from a friend and a GoFundMe fundraiser.

They never were able to figure out what is causing the anemia.  She is neither FIV nor Leuk pos.   She tested negative for a slew of blood parasite and other parasites they tested for.   The Winstrol is my last hope but I fear that by the time I get it she will be gone or too weak.   I live in South Florida and cannot believe that there isn't a place anywhere around here where I can't get that.  I've been calling every pharmacy in town it seems.

Maribel

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi



On Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 07:35:28 PM EDT, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoakley at oakleylegal.com>> wrote:


Can you get the vet to call the pharmacy and order the meds urgently? I agree that if Amy is not eating, Winstrol may be helpful on that score as well, and you cannot wait until Monday if she isn?t eating.

One thing I learned how to do with cats who weren?t eating is to take soft wet cat food, ball it up into a ball about the size of a marble, pry open their mouths, and lob the food to the back of the throat. Some of it gets spit back up, but once you get the hang of it, most of it goes down. I have found that doing it this way also seems to cause the cat to ultimately get a bit more interested in eating, once some of the food has gone down - usually after a few sittings though.

I agree that giving her baby food via syringe is also a good way to get food into a cat who won't eat on her own.

Amani

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
Sent: August 5, 2020 7:25 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)

I had to give my vet instructions on Winstrol and the info on how to order it.

Amy is not eating.  I?m syringe feeding her baby food, Liqui-tinic, giving her some subq fluids.

Maribel

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
-Mohandas Ghandi

> On Aug 5, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoakley at oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
>
> ?I don?t know of any pharmacies, unless you get it through your vets. They may be able to order it sooner.
>
> However, I know it seems like a nerve-wracking time to wait, but my Zander dropped down to a 5 haematocrit and survived. Mind you, at that point, he needed to be in an oxygen tent. Your cat will be all right by next Monday - slow and lethargic and she may have to catch her breath on stairs, but Zander dropped down to 10 after his transfusions, and you couldn?t tell from his behaviour.
>
> Obviously, it is better if the vets help you out and get the Winstrol to you sooner so you don?t need to worry, but all is not lost if that isn?t an option.
>
> Amani
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>> On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto
> Sent: August 5, 2020 6:59 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Winstrol (Stanozolol)
>
> Does anyone know of local pharmacies that sell Winstrol.  My cat Amy is dying from anemia - two blood transfusions already.  Her HTC was at 17 after the transfusions but is now back down to 11 a few weeks later.  I ordered the drug from Wedgewood Pharmacy online but even paying for next day delivery they tell me it won?t get to me until Monday.  I need it quickly.
>
> Maribel
>
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> -Mohandas Ghandi
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From mirindadejonge at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 28 01:14:30 2020
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 06:14:30 +0000 (UTC)
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Good morning
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