From mrs_mcse at hotmail.com  Fri Mar  1 00:14:19 2019
From: mrs_mcse at hotmail.com (Mrs MCSE)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 06:14:19 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help please - felv positive kitten
Message-ID: <CY4PR06MB34462DA2C8BB05A7C7BFC7C2E4760@CY4PR06MB3446.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hello,

We rescued a stray kitten, and he is felv positive.  He is approximately 9 months old.  He is quarantined.  His blood work is perfect.  He is not exhibiting any other felv symptoms.  We treated him for giardia, and tests show he is cured of that.  We treated him with doxycycline for 4 weeks for bartonella, and he is due to get retested for bartonella at the end of this month.  We are giving him rx zyme, rx biotic, and rx essentials in the morning, and 1/2 moducare vet in the evening.  We also are giving him organic grain free food.

Can anyone recommend a vet who specializes in felv treatment in Ventura County, CA, in Southern California, or elsewhere in California?  I called UC Davis, as we?d be willing to take our cat to Northern California, but no one has returned the calls.  Our local vet admittedly does not treat felv, and we want the best for our little cat.  From reading in this group, it seems that our vet is not on top of all of the tests and what those results mean.

Also, can anyone recommend any other treatments that we should add or change at this point?

Thank you,

Wendy

From johnston1110 at comcast.net  Fri Mar  1 10:07:50 2019
From: johnston1110 at comcast.net (LORRAINE JOHNSTON)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 11:07:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic
 Truvada?
In-Reply-To: <003101d4cfe6$19d11eb0$4d735c10$@centurytel.net>
References: <002d01d4cf8f$b0f49940$12ddcbc0$@net>
	<CA+-nMsvgsx-TSA2adeFTUG9r-7_mVytHqJ-=zOF_U3UNjtPPwQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<003101d4cfe6$19d11eb0$4d735c10$@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <664157279.916743.1551456470159@connect.xfinity.com>

Thank you, Pam and Ardy.


-Lorraine

> On February 28, 2019 at 11:20 PM Ardy Robertson <ardyr at centurytel.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Another online compounding pharmacy I have used and liked, is Diamond Back Drugs in Arizona.
> 
>      
> 
>     Ardy Robertson
> 
>      
> 
>     From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Pam Doore
>     Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 3:02 PM
>     To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>     Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic Truvada?
> 
>      
> 
>     I have not but you might talk to a compounding pharmacy in your area to get a cost idea.  I recommended a compounding pharmacy because they tend me to be better able to get meds because of their ability to make them. Also Vets First Choice is an online pharmacy that compounds. They may need to be associated with your vet''s practice.  
> 
>      
> 
>     On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 1:02 PM Lorraine Johnston <johnston1110 at comcast.net mailto:johnston1110 at comcast.net > wrote:
> 
>         > > 
> >         Hello,
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Has anyone found especially good U.S. or Canadian prices for the antiretrovirals raltegravir and generic Truvada?
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Thank you,
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         - Lorraine
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         Felvtalk mailing list
> >         Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >         http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> > 
> >     > 


 

> _______________________________________________
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From thyme2sail at gmail.com  Fri Mar  1 10:13:15 2019
From: thyme2sail at gmail.com (Pam Doore)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 11:13:15 -0500
Subject: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic
 Truvada?
In-Reply-To: <664157279.916743.1551456470159@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <002d01d4cf8f$b0f49940$12ddcbc0$@net>
	<CA+-nMsvgsx-TSA2adeFTUG9r-7_mVytHqJ-=zOF_U3UNjtPPwQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<003101d4cfe6$19d11eb0$4d735c10$@centurytel.net>
	<664157279.916743.1551456470159@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <CA+-nMstUNDsugSu+NKacHfa1GOgmr+mr3Wzo-n4p_fVddYUZ1w@mail.gmail.com>

You are welcome :-D

~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~

*Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me,
Christ beneath me, Christ above me. ? **St. Patrick*



On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:10 AM LORRAINE JOHNSTON <johnston1110 at comcast.net>
wrote:

> Thank you, Pam and Ardy.
>
>
> -Lorraine
>
> On February 28, 2019 at 11:20 PM Ardy Robertson <ardyr at centurytel.net>
> wrote:
>
> Another online compounding pharmacy I have used and liked, is Diamond Back
> Drugs in Arizona.
>
>
>
> Ardy Robertson
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> *On Behalf Of *Pam
> Doore
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 3:02 PM
> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic
> Truvada?
>
>
>
> I have not but you might talk to a compounding pharmacy in your area to
> get a cost idea.  I recommended a compounding pharmacy because they tend me
> to be better able to get meds because of their ability to make them. Also
> Vets First Choice is an online pharmacy that compounds. They may need to be
> associated with your vet''s practice.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 1:02 PM Lorraine Johnston <johnston1110 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Has anyone found especially good U.S. or Canadian prices for the
> antiretrovirals raltegravir and generic Truvada?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> - Lorraine
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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From johnston1110 at comcast.net  Fri Mar  1 10:22:04 2019
From: johnston1110 at comcast.net (LORRAINE JOHNSTON)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 11:22:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic
 Truvada?
In-Reply-To: <CA+-nMstUNDsugSu+NKacHfa1GOgmr+mr3Wzo-n4p_fVddYUZ1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002d01d4cf8f$b0f49940$12ddcbc0$@net>
	<CA+-nMsvgsx-TSA2adeFTUG9r-7_mVytHqJ-=zOF_U3UNjtPPwQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<003101d4cfe6$19d11eb0$4d735c10$@centurytel.net>
	<664157279.916743.1551456470159@connect.xfinity.com>
	<CA+-nMstUNDsugSu+NKacHfa1GOgmr+mr3Wzo-n4p_fVddYUZ1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <154592171.917554.1551457324092@connect.xfinity.com>

Back in 2014 I purchased just 5 or so capsules of a human anti-cancer drug for Chewy Joey, who had an aggressive lymphoma/leukemia. The compounding pharmacy nearby was able to titrate those down into many capsules containing a cat-size dose. So that's something I might try.


-Lorraine

> On March 1, 2019 at 11:13 AM Pam Doore <thyme2sail at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     You are welcome :-D
> 
> 
>      
> 
>     ~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~
> 
>     Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. ?  St. Patrick
> 
>      
> 
> 
> 
>     On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:10 AM LORRAINE JOHNSTON < johnston1110 at comcast.net mailto:johnston1110 at comcast.net > wrote:
> 
>         > > 
> >         Thank you, Pam and Ardy.
> > 
> > 
> >         -Lorraine
> > 
> >             > > > On February 28, 2019 at 11:20 PM Ardy Robertson < ardyr at centurytel.net mailto:ardyr at centurytel.net > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             Another online compounding pharmacy I have used and liked, is Diamond Back Drugs in Arizona.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Ardy Robertson
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org > On Behalf Of Pam Doore
> > >             Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 3:02 PM
> > >             To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > >             Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic Truvada?
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             I have not but you might talk to a compounding pharmacy in your area to get a cost idea.  I recommended a compounding pharmacy because they tend me to be better able to get meds because of their ability to make them. Also Vets First Choice is an online pharmacy that compounds. They may need to be associated with your vet''s practice.  
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 1:02 PM Lorraine Johnston <johnston1110 at comcast.net mailto:johnston1110 at comcast.net > wrote:
> > > 
> > >                 > > > > 
> > > >                 Hello,
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                 Has anyone found especially good U.S. or Canadian prices for the antiretrovirals raltegravir and generic Truvada?
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                 Thank you,
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                 - Lorraine
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                 _______________________________________________
> > > >                 Felvtalk mailing list
> > > >                 Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > > >                 http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> > > > 
> > > >             > > > 
> > >         > > 
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >             > > > _______________________________________________
> > >             Felvtalk mailing list
> > >             Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > >             http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> > > 
> > >         > > 
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         Felvtalk mailing list
> >         Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >         http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> > 
> >     >     _______________________________________________
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From thyme2sail at gmail.com  Fri Mar  1 10:32:45 2019
From: thyme2sail at gmail.com (Pam Doore)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 11:32:45 -0500
Subject: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic
 Truvada?
In-Reply-To: <154592171.917554.1551457324092@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <002d01d4cf8f$b0f49940$12ddcbc0$@net>
	<CA+-nMsvgsx-TSA2adeFTUG9r-7_mVytHqJ-=zOF_U3UNjtPPwQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<003101d4cfe6$19d11eb0$4d735c10$@centurytel.net>
	<664157279.916743.1551456470159@connect.xfinity.com>
	<CA+-nMstUNDsugSu+NKacHfa1GOgmr+mr3Wzo-n4p_fVddYUZ1w@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes that is worth a try if your pharmacist will do that.  NYS requires a
script for compounding and they don't compound anything we bring into them
i.e. cat is given pills, cat won't take pills, they can't compound those
pills into something they will take, they need a script from vet and then
will get all ingredients and compound to a liquid, trans-dermal, etc.

~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~

*Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me,
Christ beneath me, Christ above me. ? **St. Patrick*



On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:22 AM LORRAINE JOHNSTON <johnston1110 at comcast.net>
wrote:

> Back in 2014 I purchased just 5 or so capsules of a human anti-cancer drug
> for Chewy Joey, who had an aggressive lymphoma/leukemia. The compounding
> pharmacy nearby was able to titrate those down into many capsules
> containing a cat-size dose. So that's something I might try.
>
>
> -Lorraine
>
> On March 1, 2019 at 11:13 AM Pam Doore <thyme2sail at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You are welcome :-D
>
>
> ~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~
>
> *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me,
> Christ beneath me, Christ above me. ? * *St. Patrick*
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:10 AM LORRAINE JOHNSTON <
> johnston1110 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Pam and Ardy.
>
>
> -Lorraine
>
> On February 28, 2019 at 11:20 PM Ardy Robertson < ardyr at centurytel.net>
> wrote:
>
> Another online compounding pharmacy I have used and liked, is Diamond Back
> Drugs in Arizona.
>
>
>
> Ardy Robertson
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> *On Behalf Of *Pam
> Doore
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 3:02 PM
> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic
> Truvada?
>
>
>
> I have not but you might talk to a compounding pharmacy in your area to
> get a cost idea.  I recommended a compounding pharmacy because they tend me
> to be better able to get meds because of their ability to make them. Also
> Vets First Choice is an online pharmacy that compounds. They may need to be
> associated with your vet''s practice.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 1:02 PM Lorraine Johnston <johnston1110 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Has anyone found especially good U.S. or Canadian prices for the
> antiretrovirals raltegravir and generic Truvada?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> - Lorraine
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
> _______________________________________________
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From johnston1110 at comcast.net  Fri Mar  1 12:37:37 2019
From: johnston1110 at comcast.net (Lorraine Johnston)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 13:37:37 -0500
Subject: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic
 Truvada?
In-Reply-To: <CA+-nMssx9bWwBxfDxXN9gEVcxTp_KFnzLeiYb2BSVWsLdW3D5g@mail.gmail.com>
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Thank you, good points.  In my state, the compounding pharmacies were (last time I checked-2014) allowed to use drugs the customer brings in, but it does require an rx saying what strength to produce, etc. I guess my vet could have rx?ed it directly to the pharmacy. 

 

- Lorraine

 

"Sometimes it is the people no one can imagine anything of who do the things no one can imagine."  - Alan Turing 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 11:33 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic Truvada?

 

Yes that is worth a try if your pharmacist will do that.  NYS requires a script for compounding and they don't compound anything we bring into them i.e. cat is given pills, cat won't take pills, they can't compound those pills into something they will take, they need a script from vet and then will get all ingredients and compound to a liquid, trans-dermal, etc.


~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~


Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. ? St. Patrick

 

 

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:22 AM LORRAINE JOHNSTON <johnston1110 at comcast.net> wrote:

Back in 2014 I purchased just 5 or so capsules of a human anti-cancer drug for Chewy Joey, who had an aggressive lymphoma/leukemia. The compounding pharmacy nearby was able to titrate those down into many capsules containing a cat-size dose. So that's something I might try. 

 

-Lorraine

On March 1, 2019 at 11:13 AM Pam Doore <thyme2sail at gmail.com> wrote: 

You are welcome :-D




 

~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~


Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. ?  St. Patrick 

 

 

 

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:10 AM LORRAINE JOHNSTON < johnston1110 at comcast.net> wrote: 

Thank you, Pam and Ardy.

 

-Lorraine

On February 28, 2019 at 11:20 PM Ardy Robertson < ardyr at centurytel.net> wrote: 

Another online compounding pharmacy I have used and liked, is Diamond Back Drugs in Arizona.

 

Ardy Robertson 

 

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Pam Doore
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 3:02 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] resending: ?prices for raltegravir and generic Truvada?

 

I have not but you might talk to a compounding pharmacy in your area to get a cost idea.  I recommended a compounding pharmacy because they tend me to be better able to get meds because of their ability to make them. Also Vets First Choice is an online pharmacy that compounds. They may need to be associated with your vet''s practice.  

 

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 1:02 PM Lorraine Johnston <johnston1110 at comcast.net> wrote:

Hello,

 

Has anyone found especially good U.S. or Canadian prices for the antiretrovirals raltegravir and generic Truvada?

 

Thank you,

 

- Lorraine 

 

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Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


 

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From felinerescue at frontier.com  Fri Mar  1 15:13:23 2019
From: felinerescue at frontier.com (Lorrie)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 16:13:23 -0500
Subject: [Felvtalk] FelV
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> 
> ~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~
> 
> *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me,
> Christ beneath me, Christ above me. **St. Patrick*
  
This is a group for feline leukemia, not a religious group.

>  Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org



From thyme2sail at gmail.com  Fri Mar  1 15:36:15 2019
From: thyme2sail at gmail.com (Pam Doore)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 16:36:15 -0500
Subject: [Felvtalk] FelV
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	<664157279.916743.1551456470159@connect.xfinity.com>
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From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Fri Mar  1 17:55:43 2019
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 23:55:43 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help please - felv positive kitten
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Hi Wendy

Sounds like you have everything well under control. I think that the fact that he was put on four weeks of Doxy for the Bartonella will also help for FeLV, though my sense is that I would have kept him on it for another two weeks.

Just keep an eye for any signs of anemia. Keep checking his gums, the inside of his ears and his pads. You say his blood work is perfect. Are his reticulocytes okay? These are immature red blood cells and they will be depressed with FeLV. As long as his haematocrit, haemoglobin and reticulocyte counts are good, you are fine.

Amani

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Sent: March 1, 2019 1:14 AM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Help please - felv positive kitten

Hello,

We rescued a stray kitten, and he is felv positive.  He is approximately 9 months old.  He is quarantined.  His blood work is perfect.  He is not exhibiting any other felv symptoms.  We treated him for giardia, and tests show he is cured of that.  We treated him with doxycycline for 4 weeks for bartonella, and he is due to get retested for bartonella at the end of this month.  We are giving him rx zyme, rx biotic, and rx essentials in the morning, and 1/2 moducare vet in the evening.  We also are giving him organic grain free food.

Can anyone recommend a vet who specializes in felv treatment in Ventura County, CA, in Southern California, or elsewhere in California?  I called UC Davis, as we?d be willing to take our cat to Northern California, but no one has returned the calls.  Our local vet admittedly does not treat felv, and we want the best for our little cat.  From reading in this group, it seems that our vet is not on top of all of the tests and what those results mean.

Also, can anyone recommend any other treatments that we should add or change at this point?

Thank you,

Wendy
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From dlgegg at windstream.net  Wed Mar  6 10:34:38 2019
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 11:34:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: HISTORIC OPPORTUNITY TO PASS FEDERAL ANIMAL CRUELTY
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From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Wed Mar  6 19:43:02 2019
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 01:43:02 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] HISTORIC OPPORTUNITY TO PASS FEDERAL ANIMAL CRUELTY
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Just signed! I agree. Very very important issue.

Thanks

Amani

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From rescuek9lives at sbcglobal.net  Thu Mar 21 02:32:22 2019
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 02:32:22 -0500
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From jennifer.stertzer at gmail.com  Mon Mar 25 14:04:23 2019
From: jennifer.stertzer at gmail.com (Jennifer Stertzer)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:04:23 -0400
Subject: [Felvtalk] Abram and FELV
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Hello,  We are in the midst of dealing with a FELV outbreak in our household.  Several months ago, we learned our new kitten was FELV positive; however, by that time three other cats had been infected.  Since Feb., we have lost two cats and the third is not doing well.  I have been reading the mail archives and have shared info with my vet, but I am now at a loss about what net steps to take.  At the beginning of March, Abram started to act differently - not interested in food (which is unusual), lethargic, and skittish.  We took him to the vet and discovered he also had a fever.  The vet gave him an injection of Convenia and put him on Onsior.  He did start eating again, but remained lethargic and skittish.  We took him back to the vet last week for blood work, which all came back fine.  He also still had a fever so he went back on Onsior.  I should also mention that we started him on Interferon in mid-March and just started his second 7-day treatment.  His symptoms remain - lethargic, skittish, and feeling slightly feverish.  I called the vet today and the only thing they can think to do is another injection of Convenia and round of Onsior.  The vet said that most likely this all relates to FELV and ultimately there?s not much to be done.  Of course, I don?t want to believe that.  Has any one else had a FELV cat with persistent fever?  Can T-CYTE be used in conjunction with Interferon? Any ideas?  We just can?t bear to lose another one of our loves to this.  Thanks in advance for any ideas.  Best, Jennifer

From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Mon Mar 25 14:11:33 2019
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:11:33 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] Abram and FELV
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Jennifer, if you've been reading the archives then you will know that I have suggested the use of Doxycycline + Winstrol (Stanazolol) + Prednisone. I don?t see that this has been tried by your vet, but it is the only thing I have found to work, and it works with other conditions as well.

I would certainly be looking at adding Doxycycline, in any event, since the likelihood is that you are dealing with something other than a run-of-the-mill bacterial infection, and Doxycycline has effectiveness against a very broad spectrum of organisms other than bacteria.

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Abram and FELV

Hello,  We are in the midst of dealing with a FELV outbreak in our household.  Several months ago, we learned our new kitten was FELV positive; however, by that time three other cats had been infected.  Since Feb., we have lost two cats and the third is not doing well.  I have been reading the mail archives and have shared info with my vet, but I am now at a loss about what net steps to take.  At the beginning of March, Abram started to act differently - not interested in food (which is unusual), lethargic, and skittish.  We took him to the vet and discovered he also had a fever.  The vet gave him an injection of Convenia and put him on Onsior.  He did start eating again, but remained lethargic and skittish.  We took him back to the vet last week for blood work, which all came back fine.  He also still had a fever so he went back on Onsior.  I should also mention that we started him on Interferon in mid-March and just started his second 7-day treatment.  His symptoms remain - lethargic, skittish, and feeling slightly feverish.  I called the vet today and the only thing they can think to do is another injection of Convenia and round of Onsior.  The vet said that most likely this all relates to FELV and ultimately there?s not much to be done.  Of course, I don?t want to believe that.  Has any one else had a FELV cat with persistent fever?  Can T-CYTE be used in conjunction with Interferon? Any ideas?  We just can?t bear to lose another one of our loves to this.  Thanks in advance for any ideas.  Best, Jennifer
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From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Mon Mar 25 14:14:01 2019
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:14:01 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] Abram and FELV
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I also frankly think you may be dealing with FeLV plus FIV. That would explain the fast effect on the rest of the cats in the house (which I have not seen or heard of from others with FIV+ cats) and also that the blood work is "fine" despite effects on appetite and the presence of fever. If it was the FeLV, one would expect a reduction in red cells, and other cell lines.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Stertzer
Sent: March-25-19 3:04 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Abram and FELV

Hello,  We are in the midst of dealing with a FELV outbreak in our household.  Several months ago, we learned our new kitten was FELV positive; however, by that time three other cats had been infected.  Since Feb., we have lost two cats and the third is not doing well.  I have been reading the mail archives and have shared info with my vet, but I am now at a loss about what net steps to take.  At the beginning of March, Abram started to act differently - not interested in food (which is unusual), lethargic, and skittish.  We took him to the vet and discovered he also had a fever.  The vet gave him an injection of Convenia and put him on Onsior.  He did start eating again, but remained lethargic and skittish.  We took him back to the vet last week for blood work, which all came back fine.  He also still had a fever so he went back on Onsior.  I should also mention that we started him on Interferon in mid-March and just started his second 7-day treatment.  His symptoms remain - lethargic, skittish, and feeling slightly feverish.  I called the vet today and the only thing they can think to do is another injection of Convenia and round of Onsior.  The vet said that most likely this all relates to FELV and ultimately there?s not much to be done.  Of course, I don?t want to believe that.  Has any one else had a FELV cat with persistent fever?  Can T-CYTE be used in conjunction with Interferon? Any ideas?  We just can?t bear to lose another one of our loves to this.  Thanks in advance for any ideas.  Best, Jennifer
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From cmercun at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 25 15:06:43 2019
From: cmercun at yahoo.com (caroline mercun)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 20:06:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Felvtalk] Abram and FELV
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I am so sorry Jennifer we just lost our cat; though he was an outside cat we took care of for 2 years and fed him; housed him - I brought him recent to Dr for odor about 4 weeks ago - told Felv + but he came home and did ok for about 1 week - within 24 hours he was sick and we had to put him to sleep per Vet - and I could see it tooI am so sorry my heart thinks of youcaroline 

    On Monday, March 25, 2019 3:04 PM, Jennifer Stertzer <jennifer.stertzer at gmail.com> wrote:
 

 Hello,? We are in the midst of dealing with a FELV outbreak in our household.? Several months ago, we learned our new kitten was FELV positive; however, by that time three other cats had been infected.? Since Feb., we have lost two cats and the third is not doing well.? I have been reading the mail archives and have shared info with my vet, but I am now at a loss about what net steps to take.? At the beginning of March, Abram started to act differently - not interested in food (which is unusual), lethargic, and skittish.? We took him to the vet and discovered he also had a fever.? The vet gave him an injection of Convenia and put him on Onsior.? He did start eating again, but remained lethargic and skittish.? We took him back to the vet last week for blood work, which all came back fine.? He also still had a fever so he went back on Onsior.? I should also mention that we started him on Interferon in mid-March and just started his second 7-day treatment.? His symptoms remain - lethargic, skittish, and feeling slightly feverish.? I called the vet today and the only thing they can think to do is another injection of Convenia and round of Onsior.? The vet said that most likely this all relates to FELV and ultimately there?s not much to be done.? Of course, I don?t want to believe that.? Has any one else had a FELV cat with persistent fever?? Can T-CYTE be used in conjunction with Interferon? Any ideas?? We just can?t bear to lose another one of our loves to this.? Thanks in advance for any ideas.? Best, Jennifer
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From thyme2sail at gmail.com  Mon Mar 25 18:14:22 2019
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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:14:22 -0400
Subject: [Felvtalk] Abram and FELV
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A friend had a negative with a reoccurring fever that at one point to 106.7 .  The kitty finally responded to Clindamyacin.  Up until the Clindamyacin worked the vet thought they were dealing with dry FIP.  

> On Mar 25, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Pam Doore <Thyme2sail at gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 3:04 PM Jennifer Stertzer <jennifer.stertzer at gmail.com <mailto:jennifer.stertzer at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hello,  We are in the midst of dealing with a FELV outbreak in our household.  Several months ago, we learned our new kitten was FELV positive; however, by that time three other cats had been infected.  Since Feb., we have lost two cats and the third is not doing well.  I have been reading the mail archives and have shared info with my vet, but I am now at a loss about what net steps to take.  At the beginning of March, Abram started to act differently - not interested in food (which is unusual), lethargic, and skittish.  We took him to the vet and discovered he also had a fever.  The vet gave him an injection of Convenia and put him on Onsior.  He did start eating again, but remained lethargic and skittish.  We took him back to the vet last week for blood work, which all came back fine.  He also still had a fever so he went back on Onsior.  I should also mention that we started him on Interferon in mid-March and just started his second 7-day treatment.  His symptoms remain - lethargic, skittish, and feeling slightly feverish.  I called the vet today and the only thing they can think to do is another injection of Convenia and round of Onsior.  The vet said that most likely this all relates to FELV and ultimately there?s not much to be done.  Of course, I don?t want to believe that.  Has any one else had a FELV cat with persistent fever?  Can T-CYTE be used in conjunction with Interferon? Any ideas?  We just can?t bear to lose another one of our loves to this.  Thanks in advance for any ideas.  Best, Jennifer
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