[Felvtalk] Nori...

Mon Jun 3 13:07:07 CDT 2019

Thank you, Robert!

Till yesterday night, i was more hopeful.

Nori started stanozolol on saturday and i noticed an improvement in her
appetite.

But last night she didn´t eat, despite looking for food. She went
till plate, stir in the food, but with her mouth closed all time. She
didn´t open her mouth to seize the grains of cat food.

I think her neurological issues are worsening :(

Today, i syringed food twice in the morning, gave her some subqs with B12
too.

I am really worried because i´ll be at home only at night.

Does someone have any option for neurological issues or just prednisolone ?

Thank you!

Patrícia

Em seg, 3 de jun de 2019 às 14:00, ROBERT CHAPEL <bchapel at optonline.net>
escreveu:

> Patricia...
> I don't have any better advice than is being offered by Amani... Just
> wanted to wish you the best with this adorable kitten and cheer you on as
> one of the special people with especially big hearts.... Good Luck to both
> of you!!!
>
> Bob from NY
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 17:43:35 +0000
> > From: Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
> > To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
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> > Hi Patricia ? I gave all the pills together, morning and evening, except
> for the metoclopramide which was given ? or so before meals. The rest I
> gave with the meals. I didn?t observe a problem with giving them together.
> >
> > You might also try baby food to get Nori to eat. Get the pureed kind
> (beef or chicken with or without vegetables), so it can be sucked up into a
> syringe. If my Zander wasn?t eating (and he wasn?t at the start of the
> medication regime), then I would use a syringe to get the baby food into
> him. Baby food is easy to digest and has good things in it. I would target
> ? say ? five 3 cc syringe-fulls at each feeding. I would boost the number
> of syringe-fulls if possible. Eventually, Zander started eating the baby
> food on his own, and then I graduated to moist food, and really, anything
> he wanted until he put the weight back on.
> >
> > I had a look at the picture you sent and Nori is adorable. I am crossing
> my fingers for you and for Nori. Keep us updated on her progress.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of
> Patricia Oliveira
> > Sent: June 1, 2019 12:36 PM
> > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
> >
> > Hi, Amani!
> >
> > Thanky you very much for you email!
> >
> > Nori was discharged from the hospital yesterday night. She is eating
> baby dry food. I tried canned but she didn?t accept so weel.
> >
> > Today i bought other kinds of canned, i'll try them hoping she likes
> some one.
> >
> > Compound pharmacy must delivery stanozolol today.
> >
> > Are there any precautions regarding medication schedules? Close or far
> to doxy, for example?
> >
> > This is Nori:
> https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html<
> https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html?fbclid=IwAR0cXMedtfi73B81pJI7QiYGwRTJf9VJp-JN7S_Tstb0ANeg0Hm4ObtFH_A
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Patr?cia
> >
> > Em qui, 30 de mai de 2019 ?s 20:52, Amani Oakley <
> aoakley at oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoakley at oakleylegal.com>> escreveu:
> > Sorry Patricia ? after going on and on in my last email, I realized I
> hadn?t actually answered your question. I think you can probably use the
> stanozolol with the Doxycycline, without the prednisone, but prednisone
> itself has properties which help to boost red cell production. Try it out,
> keep close tabs on the haematology results and see if you are getting a
> good response on just Doxycycline and the Stanozolol. If not, add the
> prednisone. You may find that this combination assists with the FIP as
> well, as per my previous email.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:
> felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>> On Behalf Of Patricia Oliveira
> > Sent: May 30, 2019 12:56 PM
> > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
> >
> > Hi from Brazil,
> >
> > I rescued a very weak, dehydrated, extremely thin kitten.
> >
> > She's hospitalized now. Her hematocrit was 8, had blood transfusion
> which raised hematocrit to 22, now it is 19. Low reticulocyte count.
> > She has difficulty walking, which we can not define if it is just
> weakness or neurological. Already had a seizure.
> >
> > She also have changes in her kidneys. It has been tested and is felv +
> >
> > She is receiving doxy and the hospital vets would like to include
> prednisolone.
> >
> > However, as it is not possible yet to rule out PIF, and the medication I
> could use in the case of PIF does not work if the cat received
> prednisolone, I am trying to avoid it.
> >
> > The veterinarian agreed to prescribe stanozolol.
> >
> > Can it be used without prednisolone, only with doxy she is already
> receiving?
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Patr?cia
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:08:15 -0500
> > From: Kristy <khrystid at yahoo.com>
> > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty
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> > Hi Amani!
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> >
> > As far as I know his bloodwork came back normal other than the fever.
> >
> > I will talk to my vet about the meds you suggested. Unfortunately the
> two vets I have taken him haven?t really been forthcoming with treatment
> options.
> >
> > My husband is taking him back to the vet on Friday since we can?t seem
> to get the diarrhea/bloating under control.
> >
> > Have a great day!
> > Kristy
> >
> > > On May 31, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kristy
> > >
> > > The advice I repeat to everyone is that the best combination I found
> to treat a FeLV cat is with prednisone (prednisolone), Doxycycline and
> Stanozolol. I don?t know if you have run blood work to determine the
> haematocrit/red cell levels, but when a cat goes into crisis, it is usually
> because the red cells are not being replenished by the infected bone marrow
> (which normally produces new red cells) and the cat becomes severely
> anaemic. Other cell lines in the blood soon follow (white cells and
> platelets) because the progenitor cells which produce those blood cell
> lines are also found in the infected bone marrow (which is attacked by the
> virus). The reticulocyte count, which is a measure of new red cells being
> produced by the bone marrow, is very low or even zero (which it was with my
> cat).
> > >
> > > I would not wait until your cat is in crisis to start the treatment.
> My kitten was in severe crisis when I stumbled upon this combination
> therapy, and it was the only thing that worked to reverse the severe
> anaemia. I had tried three other treatments, while doing weekly blood
> testing, and none of the other treatments (Interferon, LTCI and
> Immunoregulin) budged his results upwards by even a single point, though I
> had used each treatment for weeks if not months in looking for an effective
> treatment.
> > >
> > > If I were you, I would get him on Doxycycline rather than, or at least
> in addition to the Clavamox. The Doxycycline has been found to interfere
> with cell wall production with some viruses. If this were my kitten, I
> would get started on the combination of prednisone/stanozolol/doxycycline
> right away. You might want to test the blood work to get a baseline first,
> but given that your kitten is not currently in crisis, that may not be
> entirely necessary.
> > >
> > > With respect to the intestinal issues, with my FeLV cat, I had
> identified that there was intestinal involvement and my research confirmed
> that the walls of the intestines can be affected by the virus. In my cat's
> case, the intestines were swollen and the stool seemed to sit in there for
> a long time. I used metoclopramide (tiny amount 1/4 to 1/5 of a tablet
> before each meal) to keep everything moving along, because my cat was
> eating and then throwing up. Metoclopramide helps with emptying of stomach
> contents and moving stool out of the top 1/3 of the intestines. You might
> consider trying the metoclopramide to see if it will help with the bloating
> and gas.
> > >
> > > Amani
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of
> Kristy
> > > Sent: May 31, 2019 9:41 AM
> > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > My husband and I recently took in a Fel-V+ kitty that showed up
> outside our house a couple of months ago. We already had 7 other kitties so
> we had to keep Fergus (kitty?s name) isolated in the upstairs portion of
> our house.
> > >
> > > He is experiencing bloating, is very gassy, and still has diarrhea
> (softer stools) and I was wondering if this is a typical symptom of a
> positive kitty.
> > >
> > > He?s been to the vet and no parasites were found, but he was running a
> fever. He is on Clavamox to help with the fever, but other than the
> bloating/gas/diarrhea he is a normal kitty. We?ve tried figuring out if he
> had an issue or allergy to specific foods, but nothing we?ve done has
> changed his bloating/gas/diarrhea. He did have an ultrasound at the vet
> visit and there were no masses or obstructions.
> > >
> > > Is this possibly a symptom of the Fel-V?  What sort of stuff should we
> be looking for?
> > >
> > > He?s such a sweet, loving kitty and my husband?s baby!  How can we
> help this kitty?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help you can provide!
> > > Kristy
> > >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 16:43:47 +0000
> > From: Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
> > To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty
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> > Hi Kristy - that's great about the blood work. However, don?t let it
> make you complacent. If she tested FeLV positive, and she is such a wee
> kitten, with all kinds of other problems, if it were me, I would want to
> get ahead of the problem. Also, as I've mentioned, the Stanozolol seems to
> be helpful for other conditions, and it also makes them feel better and
> improves their appetite and overall outlook on life.
> >
> > Please let us know how things go. We're all praying for your little
> kitten and thank you for having such a good heart.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Kristy
> > Sent: June 3, 2019 10:08 AM
> > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty
> >
> > Hi Amani!
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> >
> > As far as I know his bloodwork came back normal other than the fever.
> >
> > I will talk to my vet about the meds you suggested. Unfortunately the
> two vets I have taken him haven?t really been forthcoming with treatment
> options.
> >
> > My husband is taking him back to the vet on Friday since we can?t seem
> to get the diarrhea/bloating under control.
> >
> > Have a great day!
> > Kristy
> >
> > > On May 31, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kristy
> > >
> > > The advice I repeat to everyone is that the best combination I found
> to treat a FeLV cat is with prednisone (prednisolone), Doxycycline and
> Stanozolol. I don?t know if you have run blood work to determine the
> haematocrit/red cell levels, but when a cat goes into crisis, it is usually
> because the red cells are not being replenished by the infected bone marrow
> (which normally produces new red cells) and the cat becomes severely
> anaemic. Other cell lines in the blood soon follow (white cells and
> platelets) because the progenitor cells which produce those blood cell
> lines are also found in the infected bone marrow (which is attacked by the
> virus). The reticulocyte count, which is a measure of new red cells being
> produced by the bone marrow, is very low or even zero (which it was with my
> cat).
> > >
> > > I would not wait until your cat is in crisis to start the treatment.
> My kitten was in severe crisis when I stumbled upon this combination
> therapy, and it was the only thing that worked to reverse the severe
> anaemia. I had tried three other treatments, while doing weekly blood
> testing, and none of the other treatments (Interferon, LTCI and
> Immunoregulin) budged his results upwards by even a single point, though I
> had used each treatment for weeks if not months in looking for an effective
> treatment.
> > >
> > > If I were you, I would get him on Doxycycline rather than, or at least
> in addition to the Clavamox. The Doxycycline has been found to interfere
> with cell wall production with some viruses. If this were my kitten, I
> would get started on the combination of prednisone/stanozolol/doxycycline
> right away. You might want to test the blood work to get a baseline first,
> but given that your kitten is not currently in crisis, that may not be
> entirely necessary.
> > >
> > > With respect to the intestinal issues, with my FeLV cat, I had
> identified that there was intestinal involvement and my research confirmed
> that the walls of the intestines can be affected by the virus. In my cat's
> case, the intestines were swollen and the stool seemed to sit in there for
> a long time. I used metoclopramide (tiny amount 1/4 to 1/5 of a tablet
> before each meal) to keep everything moving along, because my cat was
> eating and then throwing up. Metoclopramide helps with emptying of stomach
> contents and moving stool out of the top 1/3 of the intestines. You might
> consider trying the metoclopramide to see if it will help with the bloating
> and gas.
> > >
> > > Amani
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of
> Kristy
> > > Sent: May 31, 2019 9:41 AM
> > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] New to Fel-V positive kitty
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > My husband and I recently took in a Fel-V+ kitty that showed up
> outside our house a couple of months ago. We already had 7 other kitties so
> we had to keep Fergus (kitty?s name) isolated in the upstairs portion of
> our house.
> > >
> > > He is experiencing bloating, is very gassy, and still has diarrhea
> (softer stools) and I was wondering if this is a typical symptom of a
> positive kitty.
> > >
> > > He?s been to the vet and no parasites were found, but he was running a
> fever. He is on Clavamox to help with the fever, but other than the
> bloating/gas/diarrhea he is a normal kitty. We?ve tried figuring out if he
> had an issue or allergy to specific foods, but nothing we?ve done has
> changed his bloating/gas/diarrhea. He did have an ultrasound at the vet
> visit and there were no masses or obstructions.
> > >
> > > Is this possibly a symptom of the Fel-V?  What sort of stuff should we
> be looking for?
> > >
> > > He?s such a sweet, loving kitty and my husband?s baby!  How can we
> help this kitty?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help you can provide!
> > > Kristy
> > >
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