[Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

[Amani Oakley]

Marlene,

I should really say that I have never used the injectable form but it is injected intramuscularly and doesn’t last very long, and will be far less convenient to give than the pills. As I mentioned in a previous response, the effect on the liver appears to be transitory and fades after the Winstrol is discontinued. You might consider an initial intramuscular injection by your vet, to give a quick boost to baseline, and then continuing with daily pills.

I am also THRILLED to hear that Winstrol is used regularly in Itally for FeLV. Finally, SOMEWHERE that is using a medication that actually shows some promise against this hideous virus, and doesn’t appear to be swayed by the highly irrelevant athletic doping scandals!

Good luck Marlene and keep us posted.

Amani 

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of marlene melpignano
Sent: November-02-17 6:04 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

Dear all,
Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome myself on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
What is better, pills or injections? 
I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for the liver compared to the injectable one .
I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.

Thanks all for your support.
Best
M&M

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> Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson <ardyr at centurytel.net> ha scritto:
> 
> Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on his bloodwork..... and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd day, and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that they sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't remember the name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and syringe feed him a little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like having me do that, but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he had to have some food in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another good appetite stimulant. When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam juice (we called it his kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful that Winstrol is not legal for this use - they hold a grudge against it because of the misuse of it by a few athletes. So our kitties have to suffer without the one thing that can help them. It is also important to combine it with the Prednisolone and the Doxycyclene because the Doxy has some property whereby it prevents the virus from replicating. Best of luck with his treatment!!
> 
> Ardy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help
> 
> Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> 
> ---- marlene melpignano <marlmel at hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> Dear All,
>> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive result). 
>> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.
>> 
>> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
>> 
>> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had already a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also whether they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using doxycycline.
>> 
>> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not eating ... 
>> 
>> Thanks for your help 
>> Marlène  
>> 
>> 
>> Inviato da iPhone
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