From dlgegg at windstream.net Tue May 2 22:35:13 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 22:35:13 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Nicely Stated... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170502233513.9HABF.1658.root@pamxwww10-z01> So beautiful. You have seen into my heart with the passing of each of my furbabies. ---- kat wrote: > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From dlgegg at windstream.net Tue May 2 22:50:11 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 22:50:11 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Nice Sentiment... In-Reply-To: <6ec55bd8.795d2.15b9f8d99cf.Webtop.47@optonline.net> Message-ID: <20170502235011.UEZA5.1683.root@pamxwww10-z01> Dogs are family also. ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > > Hello All: > While I know that our group is about cats... lately friends and family > have been losing their long time canine companions....?? I cam across > the piece below quite by mistake but it moved me enough to pass it > along...it applies equally to cats...... > Bob C > ============================================================== > > To most, he was ?just? a dog. ?To me, he was so much more than just a > best friend, he was an integral part of my life, and my world for over > 14 years. ?I was there to see him take his first breath in this world. > ?And I was there when he breathed his last, after a long and, I hope, > happy life. ?And when he left this world, it was as if a large piece of > me was violently torn away. ?Eventually the countless happy memories of > the all too brief time I had with him will crowd out the anguish of the > last moments we spent. ?For now, I can take only cold comfort in knowing > that when it came time to make the call, I did right by him. ?His body > was on the verge of a ?cascading system failure?, but it had not yet > progressed to the point where it had broken his spirit. ?I had been > waiting for him to tell me it was his time for some while, but it was > his prognosis that finally sealed it. ?He was not going to get better; > he would only get worse. ?Even with surgery ??which at his age was more > risk than solution ??his best case was a few months, and those would > have been pain ridden. > > > I don?t suppose I?ll ever stop second guessing whether I waited too > long or not long enough. ?But in the circumstances keeping him going > through heroic measures would have been for?my?benefit, not his. > > > When you bring a dog into your life, you make a bargain. ?Tonka never > once failed to deliver on his side of that bargain. ?And as much as it > hurt ??and will continue to hurt ??I had to deliver on mine. > > > Goodnight pal, see you on the other side. ?I love you, buddy. From ardyr at centurytel.net Thu May 4 07:03:38 2017 From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson) Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 07:03:38 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] hiccups In-Reply-To: References: <20b3cd00f9b34f9ba19acc0dde03caa7@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov>, <004c01d2b97c$2dbf4a00$893dde00$@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <000401d2c4ce$78a51ec0$69ef5c40$@centurytel.net> Thank you Kat ? I have been off my email for about a week and a half so just checked back in. I will read the suggested article, and probably check out the you tubes also??? Thank you, Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of kat Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:22 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hiccups Ardy, Have you looked into Feline Hyperesthesia Syndrome? It looks like the skin 'ripples' and the cat either bites at the spot or tries to run away from it, but there are no fleas present. Here is an article from Cornell vet school: http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/Health_Information/HyperesthesiaSyndrome.cfm Kat (Mew Jersey) Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 10:16 PM From: "Ardy Robertson" > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hiccups Hi Sheila, Our cat Tigger (who was FeLV+) did that body quiver thing, and usually right after eating. He did it more than our current cat ? Topaz ? who does not have FeLV. Tigger would then turn around fast and try to bite his side or back, and then he would run, as if running away from it. The vet said he had UTI and we treated him for that ? and a second vet said it was UTI but not urinary tract infection, but rather urinary tract inflammation. They did all kinds of tests including taking urine samples with a needle. Topaz also does it but not as often, always after eating. The vet said she must have fleas and sold me some of that stuff you put on the back of their neck. Although they fine tooth combed her and could not find any fleas. I have never seen a flea on her or in the house, and I know what they look like and have had them in the house several years ago, and had to ?bomb? the house and dip the cat etc. So---- I never put that chemical stuff on her. I have been trying to get her to drink more water though and she does it less now. She prefers to drink out of the bathroom faucet which I leave running in a tiny stream for her. (I have a fountain but she isn?t interested). I?m not convinced that any of the vets I have taken them to are correct so if anyone else has any idea, I?d be interested in hearing your opinion on what this is too. Thanks, Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 9:15 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > Subject: [Felvtalk] hiccups Hello, my Skylar seems to have hiccups movements in his body but not coming out of his mouth. Like his body jumps in the center. His bloodwork was great last time besides the FELV and he isn?t due for bloodwork until May. Has anyone seen this type of thing? HOOT Sheila Armstrong-Brown Administrative Aide Psych Pool _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sheri7177 at gmail.com Wed May 24 20:27:25 2017 From: sheri7177 at gmail.com (Sheri Burbridge) Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 01:27:25 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... Message-ID: Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food store this week to see if I can find something she likes. I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? Best wishes, Sheri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Thu May 25 06:30:25 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 11:30:25 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I like that idea of the tattoo, very nice. My baby Skylar is still doing well and healthy. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:27 PM To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food store this week to see if I can find something she likes. I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? Best wishes, Sheri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ardyr at centurytel.net Thu May 25 21:08:27 2017 From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson) Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 21:08:27 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000201d2d5c5$0be5d150$23b173f0$@centurytel.net> Best of luck with little Violet!! Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food store this week to see if I can find something she likes. I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? Best wishes, Sheri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From swacht1946 at comcast.net Fri May 26 11:19:15 2017 From: swacht1946 at comcast.net (Sandy) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 16:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... In-Reply-To: <000201d2d5c5$0be5d150$23b173f0$@centurytel.net> References: <000201d2d5c5$0be5d150$23b173f0$@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <585145957.42649470.1495815555539.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Happy to hear Violet is doing well - happy tails! Hope everyone has a safe weekend! Sandy W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ardy Robertson" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:08:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... Best of luck with little Violet!! Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food store this week to see if I can find something she likes. I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two ? Best wishes, Sheri _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlgegg at windstream.net Fri May 26 11:23:09 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 11:23:09 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... In-Reply-To: <585145957.42649470.1495815555539.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20170526122309.2QYG4.3929.root@pamxwww07-z01> Glad to hear Violet is doing better. I had not hear from anyone lately and was wondering wht was up. ---- Sandy wrote: > Happy to hear Violet is doing well - happy tails! > Hope everyone has a safe weekend! > Sandy W > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ardy Robertson" > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:08:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > > Ardy > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two ? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Sheri > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > From bchapel at optonline.net Fri May 26 14:01:29 2017 From: bchapel at optonline.net (ROBERT CHAPEL) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 15:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking In... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62c5dfd0.5638a.15c4622931c.Webtop.53@optonline.net> So Glad to hear that no new " tragedies" have emerged of late and that Violet loves her catnip!.. I love the image I conjur of her eating a leaf or two and rolling in the Grass looking at you with her little head upside down....? It's been only a few weeks since I lost my buddy Magellin and though it's not with me on a daily basis I only have to encounter a surprise reminder to bring tears to my eyes ( eg... needing to put some meds for myself into a container and grabbing the nearest empty one which turned out to be Jelly's Mirtazapine container... virtually in a second the whole experience came rushing back... attempting to get him to eat..watching him lose weight... syringe feeding him...?? Friends ask me " why are you considering doing it again" and all I can say is....? " It feels worse to NOT help than the pain of helping"...? Amani expressed a nice sentiment a few times when explaining to folks why she continues to do what she does... " If the people who care about cats don't help them it's certainly not going to be the people who _ don't_ care about them" ( yes Amani I took a measure of literary license in quoting you...? Hope it's close : ) On Sunday I expect to take home my new Foster... and older " Miracle" survivor of some kind of traumatic encounter( we don't know what)... He was traumatically brain injured and could barely walk when he first came to us..when I drove him to the vet I was positive they would just put him down... but he made a miraculous recovery and is now just the sweetest lap cat you could know... but still not entirely steady on his feet..? In the last few weeks he developed a tumor behind one of his eyes and it is the consensus of two vets that it is a cancer that will kill him in a few months.... ( one of the vets had a cat with the exact same situation and used a combination of Sub Cu injectable alternative meds to keep the boy alive for an extra nine months...? I can't stand the idea of this sweet guy living out his remaining days on the bottom level of cages just sleeping there with little attention until he dies... He deserves to see the sun and to have someone to pet him and know a home for at least a few months....? I'm hoping that knowing in advance of taking him home that the only real surprise would be his actually surviving that I won't have the same level of sadness that my others guys engendered... Be that as it may... I'm doing it. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Checking in... (Sheri Burbridge) > 2. Re: Checking in... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > 3. Re: Checking in... (Ardy Robertson) > 4. Re: Checking in... (Sandy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 01:27:25 +0000 > From: Sheri Burbridge To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy > here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. > I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food store > this > week to see if I can find something she likes. > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I > was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the ink. > I > know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the > whole > ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to > pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards summer and > back in > my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so cathartic. We planted > catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's so funny to watch her > bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > Best wishes, > Sheri > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 11:30:25 +0000 > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > in... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I like that idea of the tattoo, very nice. My baby Skylar is still > doing well and healthy. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Sheri Burbridge > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:27 PM > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > Best wishes, > Sheri > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 21:08:27 -0500 > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > Message-ID: <000201d2d5c5$0be5d150$23b173f0$@centurytel.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > Ardy > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Sheri Burbridge > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > Best wishes, > Sheri > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 16:19:15 +0000 (UTC) > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > Message-ID: > <585145957.42649470.1495815555539.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Happy to hear Violet is doing well - happy tails! Hope everyone has a > safe weekend! Sandy W > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: > Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:08:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > in... > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > Ardy > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM To: > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two ? > > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2 > *************************************** > From aoakley at oakleylegal.com Fri May 26 15:02:28 2017 From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 20:02:28 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking In... In-Reply-To: <62c5dfd0.5638a.15c4622931c.Webtop.53@optonline.net> References: <62c5dfd0.5638a.15c4622931c.Webtop.53@optonline.net> Message-ID: Bob, you are a true hero to these little angels. It will absolutely hurt like hell when you lose your new boy, and you know that, but you are a kind soul who will take the pain to help these babies. Thank you for quoting me. It is something I have said for a long time to explain my insanity to others, especially my mom who couldn?t understand in the middle of all my sobbing about losing another one, why I continued to do this to myself. I took home a little girl last year, who also had a diagnosis of cancer. The shelter where she had been staying, was closing down and she was obviously not adoptable. Someone at the shelter had heard of my reputation for being a sap for hard luck cases, so I was contacted out of the blue and asked if I would take her and let her live out her days sleeping on a comforter instead of in a shelter. I agreed. After watching her for a while, and obtaining her previous medical records and reviewing them, I was skeptical that she had cancer. She wasn?t deteriorating, but she had a whole lot of serious pain from something. Happily, after much running around and thousands of dollars, we had her in for surgery in March and a piece of tissue was removed (a remnant it appears, from an infected uterus which was removed) and I was so gratified to see the immediate change in her personality. She immediately brightened up - even played a bit - and started hanging around us instead of being in a poor mood and sleeping alone upstairs all the time. She still has pain but it has markedly reduced. Every once in a while - something disastrous turns good. I am crossing my fingers for your new charge. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: May-26-17 3:01 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... So Glad to hear that no new " tragedies" have emerged of late and that Violet loves her catnip!.. I love the image I conjur of her eating a leaf or two and rolling in the Grass looking at you with her little head upside down....? It's been only a few weeks since I lost my buddy Magellin and though it's not with me on a daily basis I only have to encounter a surprise reminder to bring tears to my eyes ( eg... needing to put some meds for myself into a container and grabbing the nearest empty one which turned out to be Jelly's Mirtazapine container... virtually in a second the whole experience came rushing back... attempting to get him to eat..watching him lose weight... syringe feeding him...?? Friends ask me " why are you considering doing it again" and all I can say is....? " It feels worse to NOT help than the pain of helping"...? Amani expressed a nice sentiment a few times when explaining to folks why she continues to do what she does... " If the people who care about cats don't help them it's certainly not going to be the people who _ don't_ care about them" ( yes Amani I took a measure of literary license in quoting you...? Hope it's close : ) On Sunday I expect to take home my new Foster... and older " Miracle" survivor of some kind of traumatic encounter( we don't know what)... He was traumatically brain injured and could barely walk when he first came to us..when I drove him to the vet I was positive they would just put him down... but he made a miraculous recovery and is now just the sweetest lap cat you could know... but still not entirely steady on his feet..? In the last few weeks he developed a tumor behind one of his eyes and it is the consensus of two vets that it is a cancer that will kill him in a few months.... ( one of the vets had a cat with the exact same situation and used a combination of Sub Cu injectable alternative meds to keep the boy alive for an extra nine months...? I can't stand the idea of this sweet guy living out his remaining days on the bottom level of cages just sleeping there with little attention until he dies... He deserves to see the sun and to have someone to pet him and know a home for at least a few months....? I'm hoping that knowing in advance of taking him home that the only real surprise would be his actually surviving that I won't have the same level of sadness that my others guys engendered... Be that as it may... I'm doing it. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Checking in... (Sheri Burbridge) > 2. Re: Checking in... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > 3. Re: Checking in... (Ardy Robertson) > 4. Re: Checking in... (Sandy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 01:27:25 +0000 > From: Sheri Burbridge To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. > I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food store > this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. > I > know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the > whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > Best wishes, > Sheri > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 11:30:25 +0000 > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > in... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I like that idea of the tattoo, very nice. My baby Skylar is still > doing well and healthy. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Sheri Burbridge > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:27 PM > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > Best wishes, > Sheri > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 21:08:27 -0500 > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > Message-ID: <000201d2d5c5$0be5d150$23b173f0$@centurytel.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > Ardy > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Sheri Burbridge > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > Best wishes, > Sheri > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 16:19:15 +0000 (UTC) > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > Message-ID: > <585145957.42649470.1495815555539.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Happy to hear Violet is doing well - happy tails! Hope everyone has a > safe weekend! Sandy W > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: > Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:08:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > in... > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > Ardy > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM To: > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two ? > > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2 > *************************************** > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From merrykatmeows at email.com Fri May 26 19:18:23 2017 From: merrykatmeows at email.com (kat) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 02:18:23 +0200 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking In... In-Reply-To: <62c5dfd0.5638a.15c4622931c.Webtop.53@optonline.net> References: <62c5dfd0.5638a.15c4622931c.Webtop.53@optonline.net> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sheri7177 at gmail.com Fri May 26 19:52:27 2017 From: sheri7177 at gmail.com (Sheri Burbridge) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 00:52:27 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking In... In-Reply-To: References: <62c5dfd0.5638a.15c4622931c.Webtop.53@optonline.net> Message-ID: You are all wonderful to your animals! It's hard on the heart to lose them but such a beautiful thing to show them love while we can. On Fri, May 26, 2017, 8:18 PM kat wrote: > Bob, > > You are an angel to the kitties you have cared for!! This new one will > know a true home with such great love, even if it is only for a short > time. Thank you for all that you do. > > Kat (Mew Jersey) > > *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 at 3:01 PM > *From:* "ROBERT CHAPEL" > *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... > So Glad to hear that no new " tragedies" have emerged of late and that > Violet loves her catnip!.. I love the image I conjur of her eating a > leaf or two and rolling in the Grass looking at you with her little head > upside down.... It's been only a few weeks since I lost my buddy > Magellin and though it's not with me on a daily basis I only have to > encounter a surprise reminder to bring tears to my eyes ( eg... needing > to put some meds for myself into a container and grabbing the nearest > empty one which turned out to be Jelly's Mirtazapine container... > virtually in a second the whole experience came rushing back... > attempting to get him to eat..watching him lose weight... syringe > feeding him... Friends ask me " why are you considering doing it > again" and all I can say is.... " It feels worse to NOT help than the > pain of helping"... Amani expressed a nice sentiment a few times when > explaining to folks why she continues to do what she does... > " If the people who care about cats don't help them it's certainly not > going to be the people who _ don't_ care about them" ( yes Amani I took > a measure of literary license in quoting you... Hope it's close : ) > On Sunday I expect to take home my new Foster... and older " Miracle" > survivor of some kind of traumatic encounter( we don't know what)... He > was traumatically brain injured and could barely walk when he first came > to us..when I drove him to the vet I was positive they would just put > him down... but he made a miraculous recovery and is now just the > sweetest lap cat you could know... but still not entirely steady on his > feet.. In the last few weeks he developed a tumor behind one of his > eyes and it is the consensus of two vets that it is a cancer that will > kill him in a few months.... ( one of the vets had a cat with the exact > same situation and used a combination of Sub Cu injectable alternative > meds to keep the boy alive for an extra nine months... I can't stand > the idea of this sweet guy living out his remaining days on the bottom > level of cages just sleeping there with little attention until he > dies... He deserves to see the sun and to have someone to pet him and > know a home for at least a few months.... I'm hoping that knowing in > advance of taking him home that the only real surprise would be his > actually surviving that I won't have the same level of sadness that my > others guys engendered... Be that as it may... I'm doing it. > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlgegg at windstream.net Fri May 26 19:54:28 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 19:54:28 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking In... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170526205428.F73MB.11338.root@pamxwww06-z01> These little ones give so much more to us than we give to them. They have kept me going in some dark days and been such a comfort to me. They are worth every hour and penny spent. ---- kat wrote: > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From dlgegg at windstream.net Fri May 26 19:57:31 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 19:57:31 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking In... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170526205731.WNZHZ.11344.root@pamxwww06-z01> People around here have a name for us - "Crazy cat lady". I gladly claim this title. ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > Bob, you are a true hero to these little angels. It will absolutely hurt like hell when you lose your new boy, and you know that, but you are a kind soul who will take the pain to help these babies. Thank you for quoting me. It is something I have said for a long time to explain my insanity to others, especially my mom who couldn?t understand in the middle of all my sobbing about losing another one, why I continued to do this to myself. > > I took home a little girl last year, who also had a diagnosis of cancer. The shelter where she had been staying, was closing down and she was obviously not adoptable. Someone at the shelter had heard of my reputation for being a sap for hard luck cases, so I was contacted out of the blue and asked if I would take her and let her live out her days sleeping on a comforter instead of in a shelter. I agreed. After watching her for a while, and obtaining her previous medical records and reviewing them, I was skeptical that she had cancer. She wasn?t deteriorating, but she had a whole lot of serious pain from something. Happily, after much running around and thousands of dollars, we had her in for surgery in March and a piece of tissue was removed (a remnant it appears, from an infected uterus which was removed) and I was so gratified to see the immediate change in her personality. She immediately brightened up - even played a bit - and started hanging around us instead of being in a poor mood and sleeping alone upstairs all the time. She still has pain but it has markedly reduced. > > Every once in a while - something disastrous turns good. I am crossing my fingers for your new charge. > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: May-26-17 3:01 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... > > So Glad to hear that no new " tragedies" have emerged of late and that Violet loves her catnip!.. I love the image I conjur of her eating a leaf or two and rolling in the Grass looking at you with her little head upside down....? It's been only a few weeks since I lost my buddy Magellin and though it's not with me on a daily basis I only have to encounter a surprise reminder to bring tears to my eyes ( eg... needing to put some meds for myself into a container and grabbing the nearest empty one which turned out to be Jelly's Mirtazapine container... > virtually in a second the whole experience came rushing back... > attempting to get him to eat..watching him lose weight... syringe feeding him...?? Friends ask me " why are you considering doing it again" and all I can say is....? " It feels worse to NOT help than the pain of helping"...? Amani expressed a nice sentiment a few times when explaining to folks why she continues to do what she does... > " If the people who care about cats don't help them it's certainly not going to be the people who _ don't_ care about them" ( yes Amani I took a measure of literary license in quoting you...? Hope it's close : ) On Sunday I expect to take home my new Foster... and older " Miracle" > survivor of some kind of traumatic encounter( we don't know what)... He was traumatically brain injured and could barely walk when he first came to us..when I drove him to the vet I was positive they would just put him down... but he made a miraculous recovery and is now just the sweetest lap cat you could know... but still not entirely steady on his feet..? In the last few weeks he developed a tumor behind one of his eyes and it is the consensus of two vets that it is a cancer that will kill him in a few months.... ( one of the vets had a cat with the exact same situation and used a combination of Sub Cu injectable alternative meds to keep the boy alive for an extra nine months...? I can't stand the idea of this sweet guy living out his remaining days on the bottom level of cages just sleeping there with little attention until he dies... He deserves to see the sun and to have someone to pet him and know a home for at least a few months....? I'm hoping that knowing in advance of taking him home that the only real surprise would be his actually surviving that I won't have the same level of sadness that my others guys engendered... Be that as it may... I'm doing it. > > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Checking in... (Sheri Burbridge) > > 2. Re: Checking in... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > 3. Re: Checking in... (Ardy Robertson) > > 4. Re: Checking in... (Sandy) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 01:27:25 +0000 > > From: Sheri Burbridge To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > > it. > > I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food store > > this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > > ink. > > I > > know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the > > whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 11:30:25 +0000 > > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > > in... > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > I like that idea of the tattoo, very nice. My baby Skylar is still > > doing well and healthy. > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of Sheri Burbridge > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:27 PM > > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 21:08:27 -0500 > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Message-ID: <000201d2d5c5$0be5d150$23b173f0$@centurytel.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of Sheri Burbridge > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM > > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 16:19:15 +0000 (UTC) > > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Message-ID: > > <585145957.42649470.1495815555539.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Happy to hear Violet is doing well - happy tails! Hope everyone has a > > safe weekend! Sandy W > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: > > Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:08:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > > in... > > > > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM To: > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two ? > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sheri > > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2 > > *************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From swacht1946 at comcast.net Fri May 26 20:14:11 2017 From: swacht1946 at comcast.net (Sandy) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 01:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking In... In-Reply-To: <20170526205731.WNZHZ.11344.root@pamxwww06-z01> References: <20170526205731.WNZHZ.11344.root@pamxwww06-z01> Message-ID: <1733562195.43072805.1495847651688.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I'm really happy to hear from the group. Bob, you are a wonderful guardian and I'm so happy you have a new kitty cat to watch over - no matter for how long! Right now, I don't have any FeLv kitties - FIV yes. I foster and volunteer for a couple local rescue groups and it's mega kitten season. Some of my foster friends are having heartbreak because of the loss of babies.- while others see the tragedy of overcrowded animal control facilities so there is killing. One friend asked about balance - how does one achieve balance - keep sanity - not become numb. How does one not feel hatred toward one's fellow man/woman when dumped babies are found - we do what we do because we care and we want to make a difference - even for a little while. It's pretty hard sometimes to let a foster go (adopted) one you raised from a tiny kitten - bottle feeding, cuddling and loving. Adopters are screened but unless they continue to keep up correspondence the I wonder is always hanging in your mind. Siorry to ramble - guess I needed to get somethings off my mind - again Bob - happy tails!! Sandy W ----- Original Message ----- From: dlgegg at windstream.net To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:57:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... People around here have a name for us - "Crazy cat lady". I gladly claim this title. ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > Bob, you are a true hero to these little angels. It will absolutely hurt like hell when you lose your new boy, and you know that, but you are a kind soul who will take the pain to help these babies. Thank you for quoting me. It is something I have said for a long time to explain my insanity to others, especially my mom who couldn?t understand in the middle of all my sobbing about losing another one, why I continued to do this to myself. > > I took home a little girl last year, who also had a diagnosis of cancer. The shelter where she had been staying, was closing down and she was obviously not adoptable. Someone at the shelter had heard of my reputation for being a sap for hard luck cases, so I was contacted out of the blue and asked if I would take her and let her live out her days sleeping on a comforter instead of in a shelter. I agreed. After watching her for a while, and obtaining her previous medical records and reviewing them, I was skeptical that she had cancer. She wasn?t deteriorating, but she had a whole lot of serious pain from something. Happily, after much running around and thousands of dollars, we had her in for surgery in March and a piece of tissue was removed (a remnant it appears, from an infected uterus which was removed) and I was so gratified to see the immediate change in her personality. She immediately brightened up - even played a bit - and started hanging around us instead of being in a poor mood and sleeping alone upstairs all the time. She still has pain but it has markedly reduced. > > Every once in a while - something disastrous turns good. I am crossing my fingers for your new charge. > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: May-26-17 3:01 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... > > So Glad to hear that no new " tragedies" have emerged of late and that Violet loves her catnip!.. I love the image I conjur of her eating a leaf or two and rolling in the Grass looking at you with her little head upside down.... It's been only a few weeks since I lost my buddy Magellin and though it's not with me on a daily basis I only have to encounter a surprise reminder to bring tears to my eyes ( eg... needing to put some meds for myself into a container and grabbing the nearest empty one which turned out to be Jelly's Mirtazapine container... > virtually in a second the whole experience came rushing back... > attempting to get him to eat..watching him lose weight... syringe feeding him... Friends ask me " why are you considering doing it again" and all I can say is.... " It feels worse to NOT help than the pain of helping"... Amani expressed a nice sentiment a few times when explaining to folks why she continues to do what she does... > " If the people who care about cats don't help them it's certainly not going to be the people who _ don't_ care about them" ( yes Amani I took a measure of literary license in quoting you... Hope it's close : ) On Sunday I expect to take home my new Foster... and older " Miracle" > survivor of some kind of traumatic encounter( we don't know what)... He was traumatically brain injured and could barely walk when he first came to us..when I drove him to the vet I was positive they would just put him down... but he made a miraculous recovery and is now just the sweetest lap cat you could know... but still not entirely steady on his feet.. In the last few weeks he developed a tumor behind one of his eyes and it is the consensus of two vets that it is a cancer that will kill him in a few months.... ( one of the vets had a cat with the exact same situation and used a combination of Sub Cu injectable alternative meds to keep the boy alive for an extra nine months... I can't stand the idea of this sweet guy living out his remaining days on the bottom level of cages just sleeping there with little attention until he dies... He deserves to see the sun and to have someone to pet him and know a home for at least a few months.... I'm hoping that knowing in advance of taking him home that the only real surprise would be his actually surviving that I won't have the same level of sadness that my others guys engendered... Be that as it may... I'm doing it. > > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Checking in... (Sheri Burbridge) > > 2. Re: Checking in... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > 3. Re: Checking in... (Ardy Robertson) > > 4. Re: Checking in... (Sandy) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 01:27:25 +0000 > > From: Sheri Burbridge To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > > it. > > I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food store > > this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > > ink. > > I > > know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the > > whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 11:30:25 +0000 > > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > > in... > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > I like that idea of the tattoo, very nice. My baby Skylar is still > > doing well and healthy. > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of Sheri Burbridge > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:27 PM > > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 21:08:27 -0500 > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Message-ID: <000201d2d5c5$0be5d150$23b173f0$@centurytel.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of Sheri Burbridge > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM > > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 16:19:15 +0000 (UTC) > > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Message-ID: > > <585145957.42649470.1495815555539.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Happy to hear Violet is doing well - happy tails! Hope everyone has a > > safe weekend! Sandy W > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: > > Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:08:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > > in... > > > > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM To: > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two ? > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sheri > > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2 > > *************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlgegg at windstream.net Fri May 26 20:54:54 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 20:54:54 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking In... In-Reply-To: <1733562195.43072805.1495847651688.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20170526215454.ACDZL.5054.root@pamxwww07-z01> It is had not to hate those who dump kittens and puppies. All they ahve to do is get their female spayed. Worse yet are those who use kittens and puppies to train pitbull fighting dogs. We are beginning to close in on those people in our county, but there still remain those who say the are just dogs, cats so why worry about them. That is what we have to unite against. ---- Sandy wrote: > I'm really happy to hear from the group. Bob, you are a wonderful guardian and I'm so happy you have a new kitty cat to watch over - no matter for how long! Right now, I don't have any FeLv kitties - FIV yes. I foster and volunteer for a couple local rescue groups > and it's mega kitten season. Some of my foster friends are having heartbreak because of the loss of babies.- while others see the tragedy of overcrowded animal control facilities so there is killing. One friend asked about balance - how does one achieve balance - keep sanity - not become numb. How does one not feel hatred toward one's fellow man/woman when dumped babies are found - we do what we do because we care and we want to make a difference - even for a little while. It's pretty hard sometimes to let a foster go (adopted) one you raised from a tiny kitten - bottle feeding, cuddling and loving. Adopters are screened but unless they continue to keep up correspondence the I wonder is always hanging in your mind. > > Siorry to ramble - guess I needed to get somethings off my mind - again Bob - happy tails!! > Sandy W > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: dlgegg at windstream.net > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:57:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... > > People around here have a name for us - "Crazy cat lady". I gladly claim this title. > > ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > > Bob, you are a true hero to these little angels. It will absolutely hurt like hell when you lose your new boy, and you know that, but you are a kind soul who will take the pain to help these babies. Thank you for quoting me. It is something I have said for a long time to explain my insanity to others, especially my mom who couldn?t understand in the middle of all my sobbing about losing another one, why I continued to do this to myself. > > > > I took home a little girl last year, who also had a diagnosis of cancer. The shelter where she had been staying, was closing down and she was obviously not adoptable. Someone at the shelter had heard of my reputation for being a sap for hard luck cases, so I was contacted out of the blue and asked if I would take her and let her live out her days sleeping on a comforter instead of in a shelter. I agreed. After watching her for a while, and obtaining her previous medical records and reviewing them, I was skeptical that she had cancer. She wasn?t deteriorating, but she had a whole lot of serious pain from something. Happily, after much running around and thousands of dollars, we had her in for surgery in March and a piece of tissue was removed (a remnant it appears, from an infected uterus which was removed) and I was so gratified to see the immediate change in her personality. She immediately brightened up - even played a bit - and started hanging around us instead of being in a poor mood and sleeping alone upstairs all the time. She still has pain but it has markedly reduced. > > > > Every once in a while - something disastrous turns good. I am crossing my fingers for your new charge. > > > > Amani > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > > Sent: May-26-17 3:01 PM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... > > > > So Glad to hear that no new " tragedies" have emerged of late and that Violet loves her catnip!.. I love the image I conjur of her eating a leaf or two and rolling in the Grass looking at you with her little head upside down.... It's been only a few weeks since I lost my buddy Magellin and though it's not with me on a daily basis I only have to encounter a surprise reminder to bring tears to my eyes ( eg... needing to put some meds for myself into a container and grabbing the nearest empty one which turned out to be Jelly's Mirtazapine container... > > virtually in a second the whole experience came rushing back... > > attempting to get him to eat..watching him lose weight... syringe feeding him... Friends ask me " why are you considering doing it again" and all I can say is.... " It feels worse to NOT help than the pain of helping"... Amani expressed a nice sentiment a few times when explaining to folks why she continues to do what she does... > > " If the people who care about cats don't help them it's certainly not going to be the people who _ don't_ care about them" ( yes Amani I took a measure of literary license in quoting you... Hope it's close : ) On Sunday I expect to take home my new Foster... and older " Miracle" > > survivor of some kind of traumatic encounter( we don't know what)... He was traumatically brain injured and could barely walk when he first came to us..when I drove him to the vet I was positive they would just put him down... but he made a miraculous recovery and is now just the sweetest lap cat you could know... but still not entirely steady on his feet.. In the last few weeks he developed a tumor behind one of his eyes and it is the consensus of two vets that it is a cancer that will kill him in a few months.... ( one of the vets had a cat with the exact same situation and used a combination of Sub Cu injectable alternative meds to keep the boy alive for an extra nine months... I can't stand the idea of this sweet guy living out his remaining days on the bottom level of cages just sleeping there with little attention until he dies... He deserves to see the sun and to have someone to pet him and know a home for at least a few months.... I'm hoping that knowing in advance of taking him home that the only real surprise would be his actually surviving that I won't have the same level of sadness that my others guys engendered... Be that as it may... I'm doing it. > > > > > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > wrote: > > > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Checking in... (Sheri Burbridge) > > > 2. Re: Checking in... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > 3. Re: Checking in... (Ardy Robertson) > > > 4. Re: Checking in... (Sandy) > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 01:27:25 +0000 > > > From: Sheri Burbridge To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Message-ID: > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > > > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > > > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > > > it. > > > I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food store > > > this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > > > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > > > ink. > > > I > > > know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the > > > whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > > > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Sheri > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > scrubbed... > > > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 11:30:25 +0000 > > > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > > > > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > > > in... > > > Message-ID: > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > I like that idea of the tattoo, very nice. My baby Skylar is still > > > doing well and healthy. > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > > Of Sheri Burbridge > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:27 PM > > > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > > > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > > > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > > > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > > > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > > > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > > > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > > > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > > > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Sheri > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > scrubbed... > > > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 21:08:27 -0500 > > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Message-ID: <000201d2d5c5$0be5d150$23b173f0$@centurytel.net> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > > Of Sheri Burbridge > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM > > > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > > > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > > > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > > > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > > > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > > > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > > > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > > > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > > > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Sheri > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > scrubbed... > > > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 16:19:15 +0000 (UTC) > > > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Message-ID: > > > <585145957.42649470.1495815555539.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > Happy to hear Violet is doing well - happy tails! Hope everyone has a > > > safe weekend! Sandy W > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: > > > Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:08:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > > > in... > > > > > > > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > > Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM To: > > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > > > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > > > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > > > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > > > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > > > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > > > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > > > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > > > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sheri > > > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > scrubbed... > > > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2 > > > *************************************** > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > From ardyr at centurytel.net Fri May 26 23:39:38 2017 From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 23:39:38 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking In... In-Reply-To: <62c5dfd0.5638a.15c4622931c.Webtop.53@optonline.net> References: <62c5dfd0.5638a.15c4622931c.Webtop.53@optonline.net> Message-ID: <003601d2d6a3$40a95c20$c1fc1460$@centurytel.net> Thank you Robert, for doing this for Miracle :) Ardy -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:01 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... So Glad to hear that no new " tragedies" have emerged of late and that Violet loves her catnip!.. I love the image I conjur of her eating a leaf or two and rolling in the Grass looking at you with her little head upside down.... It's been only a few weeks since I lost my buddy Magellin and though it's not with me on a daily basis I only have to encounter a surprise reminder to bring tears to my eyes ( eg... needing to put some meds for myself into a container and grabbing the nearest empty one which turned out to be Jelly's Mirtazapine container... virtually in a second the whole experience came rushing back... attempting to get him to eat..watching him lose weight... syringe feeding him... Friends ask me " why are you considering doing it again" and all I can say is.... " It feels worse to NOT help than the pain of helping"... Amani expressed a nice sentiment a few times when explaining to folks why she continues to do what she does... " If the people who care about cats don't help them it's certainly not going to be the people who _ don't_ care about them" ( yes Amani I took a measure of literary license in quoting you... Hope it's close : ) On Sunday I expect to take home my new Foster... and older " Miracle" survivor of some kind of traumatic encounter( we don't know what)... He was traumatically brain injured and could barely walk when he first came to us..when I drove him to the vet I was positive they would just put him down... but he made a miraculous recovery and is now just the sweetest lap cat you could know... but still not entirely steady on his feet.. In the last few weeks he developed a tumor behind one of his eyes and it is the consensus of two vets that it is a cancer that will kill him in a few months.... ( one of the vets had a cat with the exact same situation and used a combination of Sub Cu injectable alternative meds to keep the boy alive for an extra nine months... I can't stand the idea of this sweet guy living out his remaining days on the bottom level of cages just sleeping there with little attention until he dies... He deserves to see the sun and to have someone to pet him and know a home for at least a few months.... I'm hoping that knowing in advance of taking him home that the only real surprise would be his actually surviving that I won't have the same level of sadness that my others guys engendered... Be that as it may... I'm doing it. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Checking in... (Sheri Burbridge) > 2. Re: Checking in... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > 3. Re: Checking in... (Ardy Robertson) > 4. Re: Checking in... (Sandy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 01:27:25 +0000 > From: Sheri Burbridge To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. > I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food store > this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. > I > know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the > whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > Best wishes, > Sheri > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 11:30:25 +0000 > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > in... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I like that idea of the tattoo, very nice. My baby Skylar is still > doing well and healthy. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Sheri Burbridge > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:27 PM > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > Best wishes, > Sheri > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 21:08:27 -0500 > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > Message-ID: <000201d2d5c5$0be5d150$23b173f0$@centurytel.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > Ardy > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Sheri Burbridge > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > Best wishes, > Sheri > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 16:19:15 +0000 (UTC) > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > Message-ID: > <585145957.42649470.1495815555539.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Happy to hear Violet is doing well - happy tails! Hope everyone has a > safe weekend! Sandy W > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: > Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:08:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > in... > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > Ardy > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM To: > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two ? > > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2 > *************************************** > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From ardyr at centurytel.net Fri May 26 23:42:35 2017 From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 23:42:35 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking In... In-Reply-To: References: <62c5dfd0.5638a.15c4622931c.Webtop.53@optonline.net> Message-ID: <003701d2d6a3$bc191760$344b4620$@centurytel.net> Well she certainly was blessed to find her way to you Amani. Hope she continues to do well - certainly glad that you are not one to simply buy into everything without question! Ardy -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:02 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... Bob, you are a true hero to these little angels. It will absolutely hurt like hell when you lose your new boy, and you know that, but you are a kind soul who will take the pain to help these babies. Thank you for quoting me. It is something I have said for a long time to explain my insanity to others, especially my mom who couldn?t understand in the middle of all my sobbing about losing another one, why I continued to do this to myself. I took home a little girl last year, who also had a diagnosis of cancer. The shelter where she had been staying, was closing down and she was obviously not adoptable. Someone at the shelter had heard of my reputation for being a sap for hard luck cases, so I was contacted out of the blue and asked if I would take her and let her live out her days sleeping on a comforter instead of in a shelter. I agreed. After watching her for a while, and obtaining her previous medical records and reviewing them, I was skeptical that she had cancer. She wasn?t deteriorating, but she had a whole lot of serious pain from something. Happily, after much running around and thousands of dollars, we had her in for surgery in March and a piece of tissue was removed (a remnant it appears, from an infected uterus which was removed) and I was so gratified to see the immediate change in her personality. She immediately brightened up - even played a bit - and started hanging around us instead of being in a poor mood and sleeping alone upstairs all the time. She still has pain but it has markedly reduced. Every once in a while - something disastrous turns good. I am crossing my fingers for your new charge. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: May-26-17 3:01 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... So Glad to hear that no new " tragedies" have emerged of late and that Violet loves her catnip!.. I love the image I conjur of her eating a leaf or two and rolling in the Grass looking at you with her little head upside down.... It's been only a few weeks since I lost my buddy Magellin and though it's not with me on a daily basis I only have to encounter a surprise reminder to bring tears to my eyes ( eg... needing to put some meds for myself into a container and grabbing the nearest empty one which turned out to be Jelly's Mirtazapine container... virtually in a second the whole experience came rushing back... attempting to get him to eat..watching him lose weight... syringe feeding him... Friends ask me " why are you considering doing it again" and all I can say is.... " It feels worse to NOT help than the pain of helping"... Amani expressed a nice sentiment a few times when explaining to folks why she continues to do what she does... " If the people who care about cats don't help them it's certainly not going to be the people who _ don't_ care about them" ( yes Amani I took a measure of literary license in quoting you... Hope it's close : ) On Sunday I expect to take home my new Foster... and older " Miracle" survivor of some kind of traumatic encounter( we don't know what)... He was traumatically brain injured and could barely walk when he first came to us..when I drove him to the vet I was positive they would just put him down... but he made a miraculous recovery and is now just the sweetest lap cat you could know... but still not entirely steady on his feet.. In the last few weeks he developed a tumor behind one of his eyes and it is the consensus of two vets that it is a cancer that will kill him in a few months.... ( one of the vets had a cat with the exact same situation and used a combination of Sub Cu injectable alternative meds to keep the boy alive for an extra nine months... I can't stand the idea of this sweet guy living out his remaining days on the bottom level of cages just sleeping there with little attention until he dies... He deserves to see the sun and to have someone to pet him and know a home for at least a few months.... I'm hoping that knowing in advance of taking him home that the only real surprise would be his actually surviving that I won't have the same level of sadness that my others guys engendered... Be that as it may... I'm doing it. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Checking in... (Sheri Burbridge) > 2. Re: Checking in... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > 3. Re: Checking in... (Ardy Robertson) > 4. Re: Checking in... (Sandy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 01:27:25 +0000 > From: Sheri Burbridge To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. > I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food store > this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. > I > know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the > whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > Best wishes, > Sheri > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 11:30:25 +0000 > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > in... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I like that idea of the tattoo, very nice. My baby Skylar is still > doing well and healthy. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Sheri Burbridge > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:27 PM > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > Best wishes, > Sheri > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 21:08:27 -0500 > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > Message-ID: <000201d2d5c5$0be5d150$23b173f0$@centurytel.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > Ardy > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Sheri Burbridge > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > Best wishes, > Sheri > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 16:19:15 +0000 (UTC) > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > Message-ID: > <585145957.42649470.1495815555539.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Happy to hear Violet is doing well - happy tails! Hope everyone has a > safe weekend! Sandy W > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: > Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:08:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > in... > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > Ardy > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM To: > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been very > busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the honest > kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very excited to eat > it. I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the closure > I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes into the > ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional > about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! It's > so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two ? > > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2 > *************************************** > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From ardyr at centurytel.net Fri May 26 23:44:19 2017 From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson) Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 23:44:19 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking In... In-Reply-To: <20170526205731.WNZHZ.11344.root@pamxwww06-z01> References: <20170526205731.WNZHZ.11344.root@pamxwww06-z01> Message-ID: <003801d2d6a3$f0e37ee0$d2aa7ca0$@centurytel.net> For me, it's kind of "Better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all....." Ardy -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:58 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... People around here have a name for us - "Crazy cat lady". I gladly claim this title. ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > Bob, you are a true hero to these little angels. It will absolutely hurt like hell when you lose your new boy, and you know that, but you are a kind soul who will take the pain to help these babies. Thank you for quoting me. It is something I have said for a long time to explain my insanity to others, especially my mom who couldn?t understand in the middle of all my sobbing about losing another one, why I continued to do this to myself. > > I took home a little girl last year, who also had a diagnosis of cancer. The shelter where she had been staying, was closing down and she was obviously not adoptable. Someone at the shelter had heard of my reputation for being a sap for hard luck cases, so I was contacted out of the blue and asked if I would take her and let her live out her days sleeping on a comforter instead of in a shelter. I agreed. After watching her for a while, and obtaining her previous medical records and reviewing them, I was skeptical that she had cancer. She wasn?t deteriorating, but she had a whole lot of serious pain from something. Happily, after much running around and thousands of dollars, we had her in for surgery in March and a piece of tissue was removed (a remnant it appears, from an infected uterus which was removed) and I was so gratified to see the immediate change in her personality. She immediately brightened up - even played a bit - and started hanging around us instead of being in a poor mood and sleeping alone upstairs all the time. She still has pain but it has markedly reduced. > > Every once in a while - something disastrous turns good. I am crossing my fingers for your new charge. > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: May-26-17 3:01 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... > > So Glad to hear that no new " tragedies" have emerged of late and that Violet loves her catnip!.. I love the image I conjur of her eating a leaf or two and rolling in the Grass looking at you with her little head upside down.... It's been only a few weeks since I lost my buddy Magellin and though it's not with me on a daily basis I only have to encounter a surprise reminder to bring tears to my eyes ( eg... needing to put some meds for myself into a container and grabbing the nearest empty one which turned out to be Jelly's Mirtazapine container... > virtually in a second the whole experience came rushing back... > attempting to get him to eat..watching him lose weight... syringe feeding him... Friends ask me " why are you considering doing it again" and all I can say is.... " It feels worse to NOT help than the pain of helping"... Amani expressed a nice sentiment a few times when explaining to folks why she continues to do what she does... > " If the people who care about cats don't help them it's certainly not going to be the people who _ don't_ care about them" ( yes Amani I took a measure of literary license in quoting you... Hope it's close : ) On Sunday I expect to take home my new Foster... and older " Miracle" > survivor of some kind of traumatic encounter( we don't know what)... He was traumatically brain injured and could barely walk when he first came to us..when I drove him to the vet I was positive they would just put him down... but he made a miraculous recovery and is now just the sweetest lap cat you could know... but still not entirely steady on his feet.. In the last few weeks he developed a tumor behind one of his eyes and it is the consensus of two vets that it is a cancer that will kill him in a few months.... ( one of the vets had a cat with the exact same situation and used a combination of Sub Cu injectable alternative meds to keep the boy alive for an extra nine months... I can't stand the idea of this sweet guy living out his remaining days on the bottom level of cages just sleeping there with little attention until he dies... He deserves to see the sun and to have someone to pet him and know a home for at least a few months.... I'm hoping that knowing in advance of taking him home that the only real surprise would be his actually surviving that I won't have the same level of sadness that my others guys engendered... Be that as it may... I'm doing it. > > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > > rg > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Checking in... (Sheri Burbridge) > > 2. Re: Checking in... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > 3. Re: Checking in... (Ardy Robertson) > > 4. Re: Checking in... (Sandy) > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 01:27:25 +0000 > > From: Sheri Burbridge To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been > > very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the > > honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very > > excited to eat it. > > I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the > > closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes > > into the ink. > > I > > know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the > > whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! > > It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 11:30:25 +0000 > > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > > in... > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > I like that idea of the tattoo, very nice. My baby Skylar is still > > doing well and healthy. > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > > Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:27 PM > > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been > > very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the > > honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very > > excited to eat it. I'm going to check out other options at a local > > pet health food store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the > > closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes > > into the ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very > > emotional about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! > > It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 21:08:27 -0500 > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Message-ID: <000201d2d5c5$0be5d150$23b173f0$@centurytel.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > > Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM > > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been > > very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the > > honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very > > excited to eat it. I'm going to check out other options at a local > > pet health food store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the > > closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes > > into the ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very > > emotional about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! > > It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > Sheri > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 16:19:15 +0000 (UTC) > > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > Message-ID: > > <585145957.42649470.1495815555539.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Happy to hear Violet is doing well - happy tails! Hope everyone has > > a safe weekend! Sandy W > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: > > Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:08:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > > in... > > > > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > > Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM To: > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been > > very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, etc. > > > > > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the > > honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very > > excited to eat it. I'm going to check out other options at a local > > pet health food store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the > > closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes > > into the ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very > > emotional about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! > > It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two ? > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sheri > > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing > > list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > > rg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > > rg > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2 > > *************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From bchapel at optonline.net Sat May 27 02:44:22 2017 From: bchapel at optonline.net (ROBERT CHAPEL) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 03:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1eb8a404.99dd2.15c48dd02b8.Webtop.31@optonline.net> I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them for profit.?? In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming an animal.......?? I try to remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous since I had nothing to do with the caring I have for animals.... I was simply "made" that way... it was part of me from the earliest years that I can remember....? Had my genes been different..perhaps I'd be running a dog fighting ring..??? Beyond this, though, I feel it IS justified to require people to at least ACT decently even if their heart does not melt for animals....?? Ok... so maybe they don't particularly care about the miserable lives many animals ( and people) have....? I don't ask that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not contribute to or exacerbate that misery....?? This is MY line in the sand and I have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so....? People never cease to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and caring and their utter lack of these same traits... how such polar opposites can exist in the same? ( purportedly sentient) species boggles my mind.....?? It does my heart a world of good to know that all of you are out there making life better for the little creatures that can do so little to improve their own lot... your kindness humbles me.... > From rosebudcocopuff at comcast.net Sat May 27 10:11:37 2017 From: rosebudcocopuff at comcast.net (rosebudcocopuff) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 11:11:37 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news.... Message-ID: <50gbjfcuiuqlwww31k5yli91.1495897897573@email.android.com> My sweet, beautiful, Martin....just one yr. Of age lost his fight on Thursday, May 25th. Rest now my baby boy..... Always remembered, always loved. Powered by Cricket Wireless From sheri7177 at gmail.com Sat May 27 11:27:30 2017 From: sheri7177 at gmail.com (Sheri Burbridge) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 16:27:30 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news.... In-Reply-To: <50gbjfcuiuqlwww31k5yli91.1495897897573@email.android.com> References: <50gbjfcuiuqlwww31k5yli91.1495897897573@email.android.com> Message-ID: I'm so very sorry to hear that. Thank you for showing him love while he was here. On Sat, May 27, 2017, 11:12 AM rosebudcocopuff wrote: > My sweet, beautiful, Martin....just one yr. Of age lost his fight on > Thursday, May 25th. Rest now my baby boy..... Always remembered, always > loved. > > Powered by Cricket Wireless > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sheri7177 at gmail.com Sat May 27 11:33:26 2017 From: sheri7177 at gmail.com (Sheri Burbridge) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 16:33:26 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking In... In-Reply-To: <003801d2d6a3$f0e37ee0$d2aa7ca0$@centurytel.net> References: <20170526205731.WNZHZ.11344.root@pamxwww06-z01> <003801d2d6a3$f0e37ee0$d2aa7ca0$@centurytel.net> Message-ID: As much as it hurts to lose them, the joy of having them is certainly worth it! On Sat, May 27, 2017, 12:44 AM Ardy Robertson wrote: > For me, it's kind of "Better to have loved and lost, than never to have > loved at all....." > Ardy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlgegg at windstream.net > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:58 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... > > People around here have a name for us - "Crazy cat lady". I gladly claim > this title. > > ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > > Bob, you are a true hero to these little angels. It will absolutely hurt > like hell when you lose your new boy, and you know that, but you are a kind > soul who will take the pain to help these babies. Thank you for quoting me. > It is something I have said for a long time to explain my insanity to > others, especially my mom who couldn?t understand in the middle of all my > sobbing about losing another one, why I continued to do this to myself. > > > > I took home a little girl last year, who also had a diagnosis of cancer. > The shelter where she had been staying, was closing down and she was > obviously not adoptable. Someone at the shelter had heard of my reputation > for being a sap for hard luck cases, so I was contacted out of the blue and > asked if I would take her and let her live out her days sleeping on a > comforter instead of in a shelter. I agreed. After watching her for a > while, and obtaining her previous medical records and reviewing them, I was > skeptical that she had cancer. She wasn?t deteriorating, but she had a > whole lot of serious pain from something. Happily, after much running > around and thousands of dollars, we had her in for surgery in March and a > piece of tissue was removed (a remnant it appears, from an infected uterus > which was removed) and I was so gratified to see the immediate change in > her personality. She immediately brightened up - even played a bit - and > started hanging around us instead of being in a poor mood and sleeping > alone upstairs all the time. She still has pain but it has markedly reduced. > > > > Every once in a while - something disastrous turns good. I am crossing > my fingers for your new charge. > > > > Amani > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > > Sent: May-26-17 3:01 PM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking In... > > > > So Glad to hear that no new " tragedies" have emerged of late and that > Violet loves her catnip!.. I love the image I conjur of her eating a leaf > or two and rolling in the Grass looking at you with her little head upside > down.... It's been only a few weeks since I lost my buddy Magellin and > though it's not with me on a daily basis I only have to encounter a > surprise reminder to bring tears to my eyes ( eg... needing to put some > meds for myself into a container and grabbing the nearest empty one which > turned out to be Jelly's Mirtazapine container... > > virtually in a second the whole experience came rushing back... > > attempting to get him to eat..watching him lose weight... syringe > feeding him... Friends ask me " why are you considering doing it again" > and all I can say is.... " It feels worse to NOT help than the pain of > helping"... Amani expressed a nice sentiment a few times when explaining > to folks why she continues to do what she does... > > " If the people who care about cats don't help them it's certainly not > going to be the people who _ don't_ care about them" ( yes Amani I took a > measure of literary license in quoting you... Hope it's close : ) On > Sunday I expect to take home my new Foster... and older " Miracle" > > survivor of some kind of traumatic encounter( we don't know what)... He > was traumatically brain injured and could barely walk when he first came to > us..when I drove him to the vet I was positive they would just put him > down... but he made a miraculous recovery and is now just the sweetest lap > cat you could know... but still not entirely steady on his feet.. In the > last few weeks he developed a tumor behind one of his eyes and it is the > consensus of two vets that it is a cancer that will kill him in a few > months.... ( one of the vets had a cat with the exact same situation and > used a combination of Sub Cu injectable alternative meds to keep the boy > alive for an extra nine months... I can't stand the idea of this sweet guy > living out his remaining days on the bottom level of cages just sleeping > there with little attention until he dies... He deserves to see the sun and > to have someone to pet him and know a home for at least a few months.... > I'm hoping that knowing in advance of taking him home that the only real > surprise would be his actually surviving that I won't have the same level > of sadness that my others guys engendered... Be that as it may... I'm doing > it. > > > > > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > wrote: > > > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > > > rg > > > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Checking in... (Sheri Burbridge) > > > 2. Re: Checking in... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > 3. Re: Checking in... (Ardy Robertson) > > > 4. Re: Checking in... (Sandy) > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 01:27:25 +0000 > > > From: Sheri Burbridge To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Message-ID: > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been > > > very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, > etc. > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the > > > honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very > > > excited to eat it. > > > I'm going to check out other options at a local pet health food > > > store this week to see if I can find something she likes. > > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the > > > closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes > > > into the ink. > > > I > > > know he is always with me now but I'm still very emotional about the > > > whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels so raw. > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! > > > It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Sheri > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > scrubbed... > > > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 11:30:25 +0000 > > > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > > > > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > > > in... > > > Message-ID: > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > I like that idea of the tattoo, very nice. My baby Skylar is still > > > doing well and healthy. > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > > > Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:27 PM > > > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been > > > very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, > etc. > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the > > > honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very > > > excited to eat it. I'm going to check out other options at a local > > > pet health food store this week to see if I can find something she > likes. > > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the > > > closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes > > > into the ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very > > > emotional about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels > so raw. > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! > > > It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Sheri > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > scrubbed... > > > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 21:08:27 -0500 > > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Message-ID: <000201d2d5c5$0be5d150$23b173f0$@centurytel.net> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > > > Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM > > > To: Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been > > > very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, > etc. > > > > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the > > > honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very > > > excited to eat it. I'm going to check out other options at a local > > > pet health food store this week to see if I can find something she > likes. > > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the > > > closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes > > > into the ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very > > > emotional about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels > so raw. > > > > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! > > > It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two? > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Sheri > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > scrubbed... > > > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 16:19:15 +0000 (UTC) > > > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > Message-ID: > > > <585145957.42649470.1495815555539.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > Happy to hear Violet is doing well - happy tails! Hope everyone has > > > a safe weekend! Sandy W > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: > > > Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:08:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > > > in... > > > > > > > > > Best of luck with little Violet!! > > > > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > > > Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:27 PM To: > > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in... > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing? We've been > > > very busy here with the end of the school year, holidays, graduations, > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Violet is doing well, she seems happy and healthy although I'm > > > struggling to find a healthy food that she likes. She loved the > > > honest kitchen food when I first bought it but now isn't very > > > excited to eat it. I'm going to check out other options at a local > > > pet health food store this week to see if I can find something she > likes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got a tattoo for Mo about a week ago. I felt like it was the > > > closure I was looking for and the artist even let me put his ashes > > > into the ink. I know he is always with me now but I'm still very > > > emotional about the whole ordeal. It's been two months but still feels > so raw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope all of you and all your fur babies are doing well, I just > > > wanted to pop on and say "hey". I'm so glad to be heading towards > > > summer and back in my garden again. It keeps my mind busy and is so > > > cathartic. We planted catnip for Violet, she absolutely loves it! > > > It's so funny to watch her bliss out when she eats a leaf or two ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sheri > > > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing > > > list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > > > rg > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > scrubbed... > > > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > > > rg > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 2 > > > *************************************** > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlgegg at windstream.net Sat May 27 13:40:51 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 13:40:51 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... In-Reply-To: <1eb8a404.99dd2.15c48dd02b8.Webtop.31@optonline.net> Message-ID: <20170527144051.CI95V.45582.root@pamxwww10-z01> I agree completely. I think that these people who do this also do so unto their fellow humans. One thing they lack is the love of God. ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them for profit.?? In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming an animal.......?? I try to remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous since I had nothing to do with the caring I have for animals.... I was simply "made" that way... it was part of me from the earliest years that I can remember....? Had my genes been different..perhaps I'd be running a dog fighting ring..??? Beyond this, though, I feel it IS justified to require people to at least ACT decently even if their heart does not melt for animals....?? Ok... so maybe they don't particularly care about the miserable lives many animals ( and people) have....? I don't ask that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not contribute to or exacerbate that misery....?? This is MY line in the sand and I have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so....? People never cease to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and caring and their utter lack of these same traits... how such polar opposites can exist in the same? ( purportedly sentient) species boggles my mind.....?? It does my heart a world of good to know that all of you are out there making life better for the little creatures that can do so little to improve their own lot... your kindness humbles me.... > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From dlgegg at windstream.net Sat May 27 15:27:34 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 15:27:34 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news.... In-Reply-To: <50gbjfcuiuqlwww31k5yli91.1495897897573@email.android.com> Message-ID: <20170527162734.49XG1.45705.root@pamxwww10-z01> Sorry for you and Martin. He is at peace now. Grieve for a while and it will get better. ---- rosebudcocopuff wrote: > My sweet, beautiful, Martin....just one yr. Of age lost his fight on Thursday, May 25th. Rest now my baby boy..... Always remembered, always loved. > > Powered by Cricket Wireless > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From j13w0lson at gmail.com Sat May 27 15:29:21 2017 From: j13w0lson at gmail.com (Jennifer Olson) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 15:29:21 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news.... In-Reply-To: <50gbjfcuiuqlwww31k5yli91.1495897897573@email.android.com> References: <50gbjfcuiuqlwww31k5yli91.1495897897573@email.android.com> Message-ID: So sorry for your loss- Rejoicing he had you to love him ! Jen On May 27, 2017 10:12 AM, "rosebudcocopuff" wrote: > My sweet, beautiful, Martin....just one yr. Of age lost his fight on > Thursday, May 25th. Rest now my baby boy..... Always remembered, always > loved. > > Powered by Cricket Wireless > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j13w0lson at gmail.com Sat May 27 15:36:34 2017 From: j13w0lson at gmail.com (Jennifer Olson) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 15:36:34 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Animal WELfare In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree Robert, it is a HUGE struggle to maintain a "good heart" towards all people- even those that practically demand to be hated. Also afraid that faced with any act of abuse- I too would have to face the law. There are web petition links where I get added 'relief' by signing to find & prosecute to the fullest extent of the law those perpetrating heinous acts against innocents. 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URL: From rosebudcocopuff at comcast.net Sat May 27 18:43:11 2017 From: rosebudcocopuff at comcast.net (rosebudcocopuff) Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 19:43:11 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] =?utf-8?b?TXkgTWFydGluLi4uLi5zbyBoYW5kc29tZS4uLi5oZSB3?= =?utf-8?q?as_the_5th_of_my_babies_to_suffer_from_this_horrific_disease=2E?= =?utf-8?q?___I_even_tried_LTCI_INJECTIONS=2E__with_my_Joe=2E=2E=2E=2EI=27?= =?utf-8?q?ve_lost_Clayton=2C_and_Apache_and_Charlie=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E?= =?utf-8?b?8J+YoC4gIEknbSBzYWQsIGJyb2tlbiBoZWFydGVkIGFuZCBhbmdyeS4gICBJ?= =?utf-8?q?=27ve_been_in_rescue_for_20_yrs=2E_But_this_is_the_first_I=27ve?= =?utf-8?q?_been_broken_hearted_and_watched_FELV_take_them_one_by_one=2E?= =?utf-8?q?=2E=2E=2Ethank_you_all_for_your_love_and_kindness?= Message-ID: Powered by Cricket Wireless From swacht1946 at comcast.net Sat May 27 19:58:11 2017 From: swacht1946 at comcast.net (Sandy) Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 00:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Felvtalk] =?utf-8?b?TXkgTWFydGluLi4uLi5zbyBoYW5kc29tZS4uLi5o?= =?utf-8?q?e_was_the_5th_of_my_babies_to_suffer_from_this_horrific_disease?= =?utf-8?q?=2E___I_even_tried_LTCI_INJECTIONS=2E__with_my_Joe=2E=2E=2E=2EI?= =?utf-8?q?=27ve_lost_Clayton=2C_and_Apache_and_Charlie=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E?= =?utf-8?b?8J+YoC4gIEknbSBzYWQsIGJyb2tlbiBoZWFydGVkIGFuZCBhbmdyeS4gICBJ?= =?utf-8?q?=27ve_been_in_rescue_for_20_yrs=2E_But_this_is_the_first_I=27ve?= =?utf-8?q?_been_broken_hearted_and_watched_FELV_take_them_one_by_one=2E?= =?utf-8?q?=2E=2E=2Ethank_you_all_for_your_love_and_kindness?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2005120214.43699393.1495933091145.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I'm so sorry - thank you for taking care of your kitty cats until - well until Sandy W ----- Original Message ----- From: "rosebudcocopuff" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:43:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My Martin.....so handsome....he was the 5th of my babies to suffer from this horrific disease. I even tried LTCI INJECTIONS. with my Joe....I've lost Clayton, and Apache and Charlie.....?. I'm sad, broken hearted and angry. I've been in rescue for 20 yrs. But this is the first I've been broken hearted and watched FELV take them one by one....thank you all for your love and kindness Powered by Cricket Wireless _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlgegg at windstream.net Sun May 28 03:34:50 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 3:34:50 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170528043450.XCWD5.15068.root@pamxwww02-z01> I have to get one of those plaques, really do need one or maybe more to put in each room ---- kat wrote: > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From bchapel at optonline.net Sun May 28 14:05:12 2017 From: bchapel at optonline.net (ROBERT CHAPEL) Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 15:05:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Felvtalk] Martin... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2457c98f.968d8.15c5072b278.Webtop.38@optonline.net> I'm sorry to hear about Martin... I don't know that I've heard about him before on this forum but having him die in under year suggests to me that he was FeLV...? I'm beginning to have a rather visceral reaction comparable to those I have upon hearing of people who abuse animals whenever I hear the name of that disease... It's become my decided enemy....Robbing both quality of AND life from these wonderful little creatures so early on...... BTW... a small request.? Perhaps people could identify themselves if they are not regular contributors to the list if their email identity does not include their name....? It's seems a little odd to me to address a note to rosebudcocopuff :)?? Thank you RBCCpuff for providing a loving home for this fellow...? a large chunk of luck in an otherwise unlucky life.. Bob From bchapel at optonline.net Sun May 28 14:55:29 2017 From: bchapel at optonline.net (ROBERT CHAPEL) Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 15:55:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Felvtalk] Animal Welfare In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4d275b6b.96917.15c50a0b908.Webtop.38@optonline.net> Jennifer... Yes... I am already swamped daily with petition after petition as well as plea after plea for money to help everything from Housepets to Miniature Donkeys....? If fact...? it's hard to NOT go vigilante as the laws of the land as they now stand still do not accord animals the justice they deserve... You can virtually devastate the life of an animal...well loved by it's human family or unknown to anyone and still get little more than a slap on the wrist in the legal system.... It is up to us as citizens to make it known to these reprobates that WE think of them as defective and if they are unreachable to shun them in every way possible.... I'm tempted to say more but the world of email has a way of coming round and misquoting you later on down the road.... On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 08:58 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: People who don't care about animals... > (dlgegg at windstream.net) > 2. Re: Hi......sad news.... (dlgegg at windstream.net) > 3. Re: Hi......sad news.... (Jennifer Olson) > 4. Animal WELfare (Jennifer Olson) > 5. Re: People who don't care about animals... (kat) > 6. My Martin.....so handsome....he was the 5th of my babies to > suffer from this horrific disease. I even tried LTCI > INJECTIONS. with my Joe....I've lost Clayton, and Apache and > Charlie.....?. I'm sad, broken hearted and angry. I've been > in > rescue for 20 yrs. But this is the first I've been broken > hearted > and watched FELV take them one by one....thank you all for your > love and kindness (rosebudcocopuff) > 7. Re: My Martin.....so handsome....he was the 5th of my babies > to suffer from this horrific disease. I even tried LTCI > INJECTIONS. with my Joe....I've lost Clayton, and Apache and > Charlie.....?. I'm sad, broken hearted and angry. I've been > in > rescue for 20 yrs. But this is the first I've been broken > hearted > and watched FELV take them one by one....thank you all for your > love and kindness (Sandy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 13:40:51 -0500 > From: To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about > animals... > Message-ID: <20170527144051.CI95V.45582.root at pamxwww10-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I agree completely. I think that these people who do this also do so > unto their fellow humans. One thing they lack is the love of God. > > ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: >> > I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling > how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse > them for profit.?? In truth... I think my anger at such people is more > than a bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself > in real legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of > purposely harming an animal.......?? I try to remind myself to NOT be > so self Righteous since I had nothing to do with the caring I have for > animals.... I was simply "made" that way... it was part of me from the > earliest years that I can remember....? Had my genes been > different..perhaps I'd be running a dog fighting ring..??? Beyond > this, though, I feel it IS justified to require people to at least ACT > decently even if their heart does not melt for animals....?? Ok... so > maybe they don't particularly care about the miserable lives many > animals ( and people) have....? I don't ask that they _ feel_ > differently but I DO expect that they will not contribute to or > exacerbate that misery....?? This is MY line in the sand and I have NO > forgiveness in my heart for people who do so....? People never cease > to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and caring and their > utter lack of these same traits... how such polar opposites can exist > in the same? ( purportedly sentient) species boggles my mind.....?? It > does my heart a world of good to know that all of you are out there > making life better for the little creatures that can do so little to > improve their own lot... your kindness humbles me.... > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 15:27:34 -0500 > From: To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news.... > Message-ID: <20170527162734.49XG1.45705.root at pamxwww10-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Sorry for you and Martin. He is at peace now. Grieve for a while and > it will get better. > > ---- rosebudcocopuff wrote: >> My sweet, beautiful, Martin....just one yr. Of age lost his fight on >> Thursday, May 25th. Rest now my baby boy..... Always remembered, >> always loved. >> Powered by Cricket Wireless >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 15:29:21 -0500 > From: Jennifer Olson To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news.... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > So sorry for your loss- Rejoicing he had you to love him ! > Jen > > On May 27, 2017 10:12 AM, "rosebudcocopuff" wrote: > >> My sweet, beautiful, Martin....just one yr. Of age lost his fight on >> Thursday, May 25th. Rest now my baby boy..... Always remembered, >> always >> loved. >> >> Powered by Cricket Wireless >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 15:36:34 -0500 > From: Jennifer Olson To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Animal WELfare > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I agree Robert, it is a HUGE struggle to maintain a "good heart" > towards > all people- even those that practically demand to be hated. Also > afraid > that faced with any act of abuse- I too would have to face the law. > There are web petition links where I get added 'relief' by signing to > find > & prosecute to the fullest extent of the law those perpetrating > heinous > acts against innocents. > Am I allowed to pass along the names of these sites (although I'm > certain > some in this chat are probably quite familiar already) ? > Jen > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 23:43:54 +0200 > From: kat To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 19:43:11 -0400 > From: rosebudcocopuff To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] My Martin.....so handsome....he was the 5th of my > babies to suffer from this horrific disease. I even tried LTCI > INJECTIONS. with my Joe....I've lost Clayton, and Apache and > Charlie.....?. I'm sad, broken hearted and angry. I've been in > rescue for 20 yrs. But this is the first I've been broken hearted and > watched FELV take them one by one....thank you all for your love and > kindness > Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Powered by Cricket Wireless > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 00:58:11 +0000 (UTC) > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My Martin.....so handsome....he was the 5th of > my babies to suffer from this horrific disease. I even tried LTCI > INJECTIONS. with my Joe....I've lost Clayton, and Apache and > Charlie.....?. I'm sad, broken hearted and angry. I've been in > rescue for 20 yrs. But this is the first I've been broken hearted and > watched FELV take them one by one....thank you all for your love and > kindness > Message-ID: > <2005120214.43699393.1495933091145.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'm so sorry - thank you for taking care of your kitty cats until - > well until Sandy W > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "rosebudcocopuff" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: > Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:43:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My Martin.....so > handsome....he was the 5th of my babies to suffer from this horrific > disease. I even tried LTCI INJECTIONS. with my Joe....I've lost > Clayton, and Apache and Charlie.....?. I'm sad, broken hearted and > angry. I've been in rescue for 20 yrs. But this is the first I've been > broken hearted and watched FELV take them one by one....thank you all > for your love and kindness > > > Powered by Cricket Wireless > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 9 > *************************************** > From rosebudcocopuff at comcast.net Sun May 28 15:48:20 2017 From: rosebudcocopuff at comcast.net (rosebudcocopuff) Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 16:48:20 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Martin... Message-ID: Thank you so much...my actual name is Patti. Unfortunately, I no longer have internet service at my home..(too many vet bills). Yes, Martin was FELV..I had known that, but still had him re tested.... recently. He passed quickly..I tried the LTCI injections with my first FELV.spent thousands. But my little Joe ultimately died. I HATE that disease.. anyone here may telephone me any time...due to me not having internet...most days. Area code 412-537-9702. Thanks for being there Patti Powered by Cricket Wireless ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > > >I'm sorry to hear about Martin... I don't know that I've heard about him >before on this forum but having him die in under year suggests to me >that he was FeLV...? I'm beginning to have a rather visceral reaction >comparable to those I have upon hearing of people who abuse animals >whenever I hear the name of that disease... It's become my decided >enemy....Robbing both quality of AND life from these wonderful little >creatures so early on...... BTW... a small request.? Perhaps people >could identify themselves if they are not regular contributors to the >list if their email identity does not include their name....? It's seems >a little odd to me to address a note to >rosebudcocopuff :)?? Thank you RBCCpuff for providing a loving home for >this fellow...? a large chunk of luck in an otherwise unlucky life.. > >Bob > >_______________________________________________ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From dlgegg at windstream.net Sun May 28 17:27:16 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 17:27:16 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Animal Welfare In-Reply-To: <4d275b6b.96917.15c50a0b908.Webtop.38@optonline.net> Message-ID: <20170528182716.WER5P.23.root@pamxwww06-z01> It is frustrating. People say they are just animals, but even so, they deserve respect and kindness. Lest we forget that science considers us animals descended from apes. Does that mean we do not deserve kindness and respect. ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > Jennifer... Yes... I am already swamped daily with petition after petition as well as plea after plea for money to help everything from Housepets to Miniature Donkeys....? If fact...? it's hard to NOT go vigilante as the laws of the land as they now stand still do not accord animals the justice they deserve... You can virtually devastate the life of an animal...well loved by it's human family or unknown to anyone and still get little more than a slap on the wrist in the legal system.... It is up to us as citizens to make it known to these reprobates that WE think of them as defective and if they are unreachable to shun them in every way possible.... I'm tempted to say more but the world of email has a way of coming round and misquoting you later on down the road.... On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 08:58 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: People who don't care about animals... > (dlgegg at windstream.net) > 2. Re: Hi......sad news.... (dlgegg at windstream.net) > 3. Re: Hi......sad news.... (Jennifer Olson) > 4. Animal WELfare (Jennifer Olson) > 5. Re: People who don't care about animals... (kat) > 6. My Martin.....so handsome....he was the 5th of my babies to > suffer from this horrific disease. I even tried LTCI > INJECTIONS. with my Joe....I've lost Clayton, and Apache and > Charlie.....?. I'm sad, broken hearted and angry. I've been > in > rescue for 20 yrs. But this is the first I've been broken > hearted > and watched FELV take them one by one....thank you all for your > love and kindness (rosebudcocopuff) > 7. Re: My Martin.....so handsome....he was the 5th of my babies > to suffer from this horrific disease. I even tried LTCI > INJECTIONS. with my Joe....I've lost Clayton, and Apache and > Charlie.....?. I'm sad, broken hearted and angry. I've been > in > rescue for 20 yrs. But this is the first I've been broken > hearted > and watched FELV take them one by one....thank you all for your > love and kindness (Sandy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 13:40:51 -0500 > From: To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about > animals... > Message-ID: <20170527144051.CI95V.45582.root at pamxwww10-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I agree completely. I think that these people who do this also do so > unto their fellow humans. One thing they lack is the love of God. > > ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: >> > I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling > how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse > them for profit.?? In truth... I think my anger at such people is more > than a bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself > in real legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of > purposely harming an animal.......?? I try to remind myself to NOT be > so self Righteous since I had nothing to do with the caring I have for > animals.... I was simply "made" that way... it was part of me from the > earliest years that I can remember....? Had my genes been > different..perhaps I'd be running a dog fighting ring..??? Beyond > this, though, I feel it IS justified to require people to at least ACT > decently even if their heart does not melt for animals....?? Ok... so > maybe they don't particularly care about the miserable lives many > animals ( and people) have....? I don't ask that they _ feel_ > differently but I DO expect that they will not contribute to or > exacerbate that misery....?? This is MY line in the sand and I have NO > forgiveness in my heart for people who do so....? People never cease > to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and caring and their > utter lack of these same traits... how such polar opposites can exist > in the same? ( purportedly sentient) species boggles my mind.....?? It > does my heart a world of good to know that all of you are out there > making life better for the little creatures that can do so little to > improve their own lot... your kindness humbles me.... > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 15:27:34 -0500 > From: To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news.... > Message-ID: <20170527162734.49XG1.45705.root at pamxwww10-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Sorry for you and Martin. He is at peace now. Grieve for a while and > it will get better. > > ---- rosebudcocopuff wrote: >> My sweet, beautiful, Martin....just one yr. Of age lost his fight on >> Thursday, May 25th. Rest now my baby boy..... Always remembered, >> always loved. >> Powered by Cricket Wireless >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 15:29:21 -0500 > From: Jennifer Olson To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news.... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > So sorry for your loss- Rejoicing he had you to love him ! > Jen > > On May 27, 2017 10:12 AM, "rosebudcocopuff" wrote: > >> My sweet, beautiful, Martin....just one yr. Of age lost his fight on >> Thursday, May 25th. Rest now my baby boy..... Always remembered, >> always >> loved. >> >> Powered by Cricket Wireless >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 15:36:34 -0500 > From: Jennifer Olson To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Animal WELfare > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I agree Robert, it is a HUGE struggle to maintain a "good heart" > towards > all people- even those that practically demand to be hated. Also > afraid > that faced with any act of abuse- I too would have to face the law. > There are web petition links where I get added 'relief' by signing to > find > & prosecute to the fullest extent of the law those perpetrating > heinous > acts against innocents. > Am I allowed to pass along the names of these sites (although I'm > certain > some in this chat are probably quite familiar already) ? > Jen > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 23:43:54 +0200 > From: kat To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 19:43:11 -0400 > From: rosebudcocopuff To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] My Martin.....so handsome....he was the 5th of my > babies to suffer from this horrific disease. I even tried LTCI > INJECTIONS. with my Joe....I've lost Clayton, and Apache and > Charlie.....?. I'm sad, broken hearted and angry. I've been in > rescue for 20 yrs. But this is the first I've been broken hearted and > watched FELV take them one by one....thank you all for your love and > kindness > Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Powered by Cricket Wireless > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 00:58:11 +0000 (UTC) > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My Martin.....so handsome....he was the 5th of > my babies to suffer from this horrific disease. I even tried LTCI > INJECTIONS. with my Joe....I've lost Clayton, and Apache and > Charlie.....?. I'm sad, broken hearted and angry. I've been in > rescue for 20 yrs. But this is the first I've been broken hearted and > watched FELV take them one by one....thank you all for your love and > kindness > Message-ID: > <2005120214.43699393.1495933091145.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'm so sorry - thank you for taking care of your kitty cats until - > well until Sandy W > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "rosebudcocopuff" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: > Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:43:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My Martin.....so > handsome....he was the 5th of my babies to suffer from this horrific > disease. I even tried LTCI INJECTIONS. with my Joe....I've lost > Clayton, and Apache and Charlie.....?. I'm sad, broken hearted and > angry. I've been in rescue for 20 yrs. But this is the first I've been > broken hearted and watched FELV take them one by one....thank you all > for your love and kindness > > > Powered by Cricket Wireless > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 37, Issue 9 > *************************************** > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From merrykatmeows at email.com Sun May 28 18:10:46 2017 From: merrykatmeows at email.com (kat) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 01:10:46 +0200 Subject: [Felvtalk] =?utf-8?b?TXkgTWFydGluLi4uLi5zbyBoYW5kc29tZS4uLi5o?= =?utf-8?q?e_was_the_5th_of_my_babies_to_suffer_from_this_horrific_disease?= =?utf-8?q?=2E___I_even_tried_LTCI_INJECTIONS=2E__with_my_Joe=2E=2E=2E=2EI?= =?utf-8?q?=27ve_lost_Clayton=2C_and_Apache_and_Charlie=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E?= =?utf-8?b?8J+YoC4gIEknbSBzYWQsIGJyb2tlbiBoZWFydGVkIGFuZCBhbmdyeS4gICBJ?= =?utf-8?b?J3Zl?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ardyr at centurytel.net Sun May 28 23:41:01 2017 From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson) Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 23:41:01 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... In-Reply-To: <1eb8a404.99dd2.15c48dd02b8.Webtop.31@optonline.net> References: <1eb8a404.99dd2.15c48dd02b8.Webtop.31@optonline.net> Message-ID: <004601d2d835$c6d1cbf0$547563d0$@centurytel.net> I have read a lot on the subject of sociopaths and criminals, and most of them started being cruel to animals as young children. It's also amazing to me that there seems to be no middle ground for cats - people either love them or hate them, and I don't understand why. I personally brought home all kinds of strays as a child and my parents either let me keep them, or they found good homes for them. I had dolls but preferred to dress up my cats and push them around in doll-buggies. They didn't seem to mind a bit! I think it is important for parents to allow their kids to have pets and care for them, to cultivate a caring for animal life. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:44 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them for profit. In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming an animal....... I try to remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous since I had nothing to do with the caring I have for animals.... I was simply "made" that way... it was part of me from the earliest years that I can remember.... Had my genes been different..perhaps I'd be running a dog fighting ring.. Beyond this, though, I feel it IS justified to require people to at least ACT decently even if their heart does not melt for animals.... Ok... so maybe they don't particularly care about the miserable lives many animals ( and people) have.... I don't ask that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not contribute to or exacerbate that misery.... This is MY line in the sand and I have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so.... People never cease to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and caring and their utter lack of these same traits... how such polar opposites can exist in the same ( purportedly sentient) species boggles my mind..... It does my heart a world of good to know that all of you are out there making life better for the little creatures that can do so little to improve their own lot... your kindness humbles me.... > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From ardyr at centurytel.net Sun May 28 23:42:14 2017 From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson) Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 23:42:14 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news.... In-Reply-To: <50gbjfcuiuqlwww31k5yli91.1495897897573@email.android.com> References: <50gbjfcuiuqlwww31k5yli91.1495897897573@email.android.com> Message-ID: <004701d2d835$f22ce320$d686a960$@centurytel.net> Oh........ so sorry about Martin. But thank you for being his caring family while he was here... -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of rosebudcocopuff Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 10:12 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Hi......sad news.... My sweet, beautiful, Martin....just one yr. Of age lost his fight on Thursday, May 25th. Rest now my baby boy..... Always remembered, always loved. Powered by Cricket Wireless _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From aoakley at oakleylegal.com Sun May 28 23:47:46 2017 From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 04:47:46 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... In-Reply-To: <004601d2d835$c6d1cbf0$547563d0$@centurytel.net> References: <1eb8a404.99dd2.15c48dd02b8.Webtop.31@optonline.net> <004601d2d835$c6d1cbf0$547563d0$@centurytel.net> Message-ID: Ardy When people don't care about animals, you can make them give a crap by explaining to them that psychopathic killers start out killing animals. If you can't get them to give a damn about abused animals, they sure perk up when they realize that after practicing on animals, these killers move on to children and other people. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson Sent: May-29-17 12:41 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... I have read a lot on the subject of sociopaths and criminals, and most of them started being cruel to animals as young children. It's also amazing to me that there seems to be no middle ground for cats - people either love them or hate them, and I don't understand why. I personally brought home all kinds of strays as a child and my parents either let me keep them, or they found good homes for them. I had dolls but preferred to dress up my cats and push them around in doll-buggies. They didn't seem to mind a bit! I think it is important for parents to allow their kids to have pets and care for them, to cultivate a caring for animal life. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:44 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them for profit. In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming an animal....... I try to remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous since I had nothing to do with the caring I have for animals.... I was simply "made" that way... it was part of me from the earliest years that I can remember.... Had my genes been different..perhaps I'd be running a dog fighting ring.. Beyond this, though, I feel it IS justified to require people to at least ACT decently even if their heart does not melt for animals.... Ok... so maybe they don't particularly care about the miserable lives many animals ( and people) have.... I don't ask that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not con tribute to or exacerbate that misery.... This is MY line in the sand and I have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so.... People never cease to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and caring and their utter lack of these same traits... how such polar opposites can exist in the same ( purportedly sentient) species boggles my mind..... It does my heart a world of good to know that all of you are out there making life better for the little creatures that can do so little to improve their own lot... your kindness humbles me.... > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From felinerescue at frontier.com Mon May 29 08:07:34 2017 From: felinerescue at frontier.com (Lorrie) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 09:07:34 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Amani In-Reply-To: References: <62c5dfd0.5638a.15c4622931c.Webtop.53@optonline.net> Message-ID: <20170529130734.GA932@lnx12.netgear.com> Thank you Amani. This was such a wonderful story. Lorrie On 05-26, Amani Oakley wrote: > I took home a little girl last year, who also had a diagnosis of > cancer. The shelter where she had been staying, was closing down > and she was obviously not adoptable. Someone at the shelter had > heard of my reputation for being a sap for hard luck cases, so I > was contacted out of the blue and asked if I would take her and let > her live out her days sleeping on a comforter instead of in a > shelter. I agreed. After watching her for a while, and obtaining > her previous medical records and reviewing them, I was skeptical > that she had cancer. She wasn???t deteriorating, but she had a > whole lot of serious pain from something. Happily, after much > running around and thousands of dollars, we had her in for surgery > in March and a piece of tissue was removed (a remnant it appears, > from an infected uterus which was removed) and I was so gratified > to see the immediate change in her personality. She immediately > brightened up - even played a bit - and started hanging around us > instead of being in a poor mood and sleeping alone upstairs all the > time. She still has pain but it has markedly reduced. > > Every once in a while - something disastrous turns good. I am > crossing my fingers for your new charge. > > Amani > From felinerescue at frontier.com Mon May 29 08:09:20 2017 From: felinerescue at frontier.com (Lorrie) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 09:09:20 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... In-Reply-To: References: <1eb8a404.99dd2.15c48dd02b8.Webtop.31@optonline.net> <004601d2d835$c6d1cbf0$547563d0$@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <20170529130920.GB932@lnx12.netgear.com> > When people don't care about animals, you can make them give a crap > by explaining to them that psychopathic killers start out killing > animals. If you can't get them to give a damn about abused animals, > they sure perk up when they realize that after practicing on > animals, these killers move on to children and other people. > > Amani Excellent idea and one I will remember and use. Lorrie From dlgegg at windstream.net Mon May 29 13:04:56 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:04:56 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... In-Reply-To: <20170529130920.GB932@lnx12.netgear.com> Message-ID: <20170529140456.HWTWD.9028.root@pamxwww07-z01> Sadly, this will not stop them. When I reported someone for animal abuse, the investigator said most likely when he makes his report, he includes child, elder or spouse abuse also. These people are ill, enjoy hurting someone who cannot defend themselves. ---- Lorrie wrote: > > > When people don't care about animals, you can make them give a crap > > by explaining to them that psychopathic killers start out killing > > animals. If you can't get them to give a damn about abused animals, > > they sure perk up when they realize that after practicing on > > animals, these killers move on to children and other people. > > > > Amani > > Excellent idea and one I will remember and use. > > Lorrie > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From dlgegg at windstream.net Mon May 29 13:07:07 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:07:07 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Amani In-Reply-To: <20170529130734.GA932@lnx12.netgear.com> Message-ID: <20170529140707.SB74Z.9034.root@pamxwww07-z01> It pays to investigate and be sure. Don't always accept what someone tells you. ---- Lorrie wrote: > Thank you Amani. This was such a wonderful story. > > Lorrie > > On 05-26, Amani Oakley wrote: > > > > I took home a little girl last year, who also had a diagnosis of > > cancer. The shelter where she had been staying, was closing down > > and she was obviously not adoptable. Someone at the shelter had > > heard of my reputation for being a sap for hard luck cases, so I > > was contacted out of the blue and asked if I would take her and let > > her live out her days sleeping on a comforter instead of in a > > shelter. I agreed. After watching her for a while, and obtaining > > her previous medical records and reviewing them, I was skeptical > > that she had cancer. She wasn???t deteriorating, but she had a > > whole lot of serious pain from something. Happily, after much > > running around and thousands of dollars, we had her in for surgery > > in March and a piece of tissue was removed (a remnant it appears, > > from an infected uterus which was removed) and I was so gratified > > to see the immediate change in her personality. She immediately > > brightened up - even played a bit - and started hanging around us > > instead of being in a poor mood and sleeping alone upstairs all the > > time. She still has pain but it has markedly reduced. > > > > Every once in a while - something disastrous turns good. I am > > crossing my fingers for your new charge. > > > > Amani > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From dlgegg at windstream.net Mon May 29 13:17:36 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 13:17:36 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... In-Reply-To: <004601d2d835$c6d1cbf0$547563d0$@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <20170529141736.YCXU6.9075.root@pamxwww07-z01> Not only care for pets, but their fellow humans. ---- Ardy Robertson wrote: > I have read a lot on the subject of sociopaths and criminals, and most of them started being cruel to animals as young children. > > It's also amazing to me that there seems to be no middle ground for cats - people either love them or hate them, and I don't understand why. I personally brought home all kinds of strays as a child and my parents either let me keep them, or they found good homes for them. I had dolls but preferred to dress up my cats and push them around in doll-buggies. They didn't seem to mind a bit! I think it is important for parents to allow their kids to have pets and care for them, to cultivate a caring for animal life. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:44 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... > > > I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them for profit. In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming an animal....... I try to remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous since I had nothing to do with the caring I have for animals.... I was simply "made" that way... it was part of me from the earliest years that I can remember.... Had my genes been different..perhaps I'd be running a dog fighting ring.. Beyond this, though, I feel it IS justified to require people to at least ACT decently even if their heart does not melt for animals.... Ok... so maybe they don't particularly care about the miserable lives many animals ( and people) have.... I don't ask that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not con > tribute to or exacerbate that misery.... This is MY line in the sand and I have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so.... People never cease to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and caring and their utter lack of these same traits... how such polar opposites can exist in the same ( purportedly sentient) species boggles my mind..... It does my heart a world of good to know that all of you are out there making life better for the little creatures that can do so little to improve their own lot... your kindness humbles me.... > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From ardyr at centurytel.net Tue May 30 18:45:05 2017 From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson) Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 18:45:05 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... In-Reply-To: References: <1eb8a404.99dd2.15c48dd02b8.Webtop.31@optonline.net> <004601d2d835$c6d1cbf0$547563d0$@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <002001d2d99e$c4b6cc20$4e246460$@centurytel.net> Good idea!! -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 11:48 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... Ardy When people don't care about animals, you can make them give a crap by explaining to them that psychopathic killers start out killing animals. If you can't get them to give a damn about abused animals, they sure perk up when they realize that after practicing on animals, these killers move on to children and other people. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson Sent: May-29-17 12:41 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... I have read a lot on the subject of sociopaths and criminals, and most of them started being cruel to animals as young children. It's also amazing to me that there seems to be no middle ground for cats - people either love them or hate them, and I don't understand why. I personally brought home all kinds of strays as a child and my parents either let me keep them, or they found good homes for them. I had dolls but preferred to dress up my cats and push them around in doll-buggies. They didn't seem to mind a bit! I think it is important for parents to allow their kids to have pets and care for them, to cultivate a caring for animal life. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:44 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] People who don't care about animals... I have, obviously ( as do all of us) a very difficult time reconciling how someone could NOT care about animals or worse... use and abuse them for profit. In truth... I think my anger at such people is more than a bit beyond the pale and I worry, honestly, about getting myself in real legal trouble should I encounter someone in the act of purposely harming an animal....... I try to remind myself to NOT be so self Righteous since I had nothing to do with the caring I have for animals.... I was simply "made" that way... it was part of me from the earliest years that I can remember.... Had my genes been different..perhaps I'd be running a dog fighting ring.. Beyond this, though, I feel it IS justified to require people to at least ACT decently even if their heart does not melt for animals.... Ok... so maybe they don't particularly care about the miserable lives many animals ( and people) have.... I don't ask that they _ feel_ differently but I DO expect that they will not con tribute to or exacerbate that misery.... This is MY line in the sand and I have NO forgiveness in my heart for people who do so.... People never cease to amaze me both with their capacity for goodness and caring and their utter lack of these same traits... how such polar opposites can exist in the same ( purportedly sentient) species boggles my mind..... It does my heart a world of good to know that all of you are out there making life better for the little creatures that can do so little to improve their own lot... your kindness humbles me.... > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From dlgegg at windstream.net Wed May 31 16:51:43 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 16:51:43 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie Message-ID: <20170531175143.44MOX.23339.root@pamxwww02-z01> We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no soloids. The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She will get it 2 times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up on it and is willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times for blood. It came out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the tests. She is also dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to bring home. She also had to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain was not getting enough. After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was stressed by the exam. Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 HCT - LOW 23.7 HGB - LOW 8.4 RETC HIGH 62.7 WBC LOW 4.54 NEU LOW 2.41 BUN HIGH 59 ALKP LOW 10 TBIL HIGH 1.5 EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED WHEN SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. i JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START HER ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM THE LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN GIVE HER SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO HAVE A VET LIKE THAT. From aoakley at oakleylegal.com Wed May 31 18:47:16 2017 From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 23:47:16 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie In-Reply-To: <20170531175143.44MOX.23339.root@pamxwww02-z01> References: <20170531175143.44MOX.23339.root@pamxwww02-z01> Message-ID: I don't have a lot to go on, but based on the results, and the physical finding of a painful kidney, it might be a kidney infection gone septic. The total white cell count is low, which may occur when the white cells migrate out of blood circulation to move towards an area of infection in the tissues. You have given a low neutrophil count, but I would also be interested in what is the percentage of neutrophils. If it is a bacterial infection, I would expect a higher than normal percentage of neutrophils. Also, I would be looking for a left shift in the neutrophils. Did they report any immature neutrophils like band cells? Any other neutrophil abnormalities such as toxic granulation? The first thing I would focus on is ensuring sufficient hydration. Keep up with the subcutaneous fluids at home. Also, oxygen would help since you want to keep the cells well-perfused and with the dehydration and drop of red cells (though they aren't too low), and oxygen needed at the clinic, you should give her some more if you have a source of it at home. I am concerned that she isn't already on doxycycline. I would perhaps ask the vet to consider intravenous antibiotics, to get the antibiotics levels to go up faster than orally, and then you can give her the oral antibiotics. If it is a kidney infection, fluid replacement and antibiotic therapy is likely far more important than food intake right now. It isn't clear that this is an infection, but it might be. Was she tested for vital signs? Did she have temperature, and possibly elevated heart rate. It seems that she certainly would have had a reduced blood pressure, which again is consistent with sepsis from an infection, but isn't the only thing that might cause that. I don't think this is a Winstrol situation just yet. I think instead that a combination of broad spectrum antibiotics along with some prednisone/prednisolone might be the better approach. However, given that there is no definitive diagnosis yet, you need to watch her closely. If there isn't an improvement fairly quickly on the antibiotics, your vet will probably be considering other explanations. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: May-31-17 5:52 PM To: felv Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no soloids. The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She will get it 2 times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up on it and is willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times for blood. It came out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the tests. She is also dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to bring home. She also had to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain was not getting enough. After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was stressed by the exam. Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 HCT - LOW 23.7 HGB - LOW 8.4 RETC HIGH 62.7 WBC LOW 4.54 NEU LOW 2.41 BUN HIGH 59 ALKP LOW 10 TBIL HIGH 1.5 EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED WHEN SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. i JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START HER ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM THE LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN GIVE HER SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO HAVE A VET LIKE THAT. _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From sheri7177 at gmail.com Wed May 31 18:54:49 2017 From: sheri7177 at gmail.com (Sheri Burbridge) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 23:54:49 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie In-Reply-To: References: <20170531175143.44MOX.23339.root@pamxwww02-z01> Message-ID: I don't have enough experience to really offer advice, Amani seems to have some great suggestions for you! I just wanted to let you know we are here for you and rooting for a treatable condition and a full recovery for little Annie. Please keep us updated! On Wed, May 31, 2017, 7:47 PM Amani Oakley wrote: > I don't have a lot to go on, but based on the results, and the physical > finding of a painful kidney, it might be a kidney infection gone septic. > The total white cell count is low, which may occur when the white cells > migrate out of blood circulation to move towards an area of infection in > the tissues. You have given a low neutrophil count, but I would also be > interested in what is the percentage of neutrophils. If it is a bacterial > infection, I would expect a higher than normal percentage of neutrophils. > Also, I would be looking for a left shift in the neutrophils. Did they > report any immature neutrophils like band cells? Any other neutrophil > abnormalities such as toxic granulation? > > The first thing I would focus on is ensuring sufficient hydration. Keep up > with the subcutaneous fluids at home. Also, oxygen would help since you > want to keep the cells well-perfused and with the dehydration and drop of > red cells (though they aren't too low), and oxygen needed at the clinic, > you should give her some more if you have a source of it at home. I am > concerned that she isn't already on doxycycline. I would perhaps ask the > vet to consider intravenous antibiotics, to get the antibiotics levels to > go up faster than orally, and then you can give her the oral antibiotics. > If it is a kidney infection, fluid replacement and antibiotic therapy is > likely far more important than food intake right now. > > It isn't clear that this is an infection, but it might be. Was she tested > for vital signs? Did she have temperature, and possibly elevated heart > rate. It seems that she certainly would have had a reduced blood pressure, > which again is consistent with sepsis from an infection, but isn't the only > thing that might cause that. > > I don't think this is a Winstrol situation just yet. I think instead that > a combination of broad spectrum antibiotics along with some > prednisone/prednisolone might be the better approach. > > However, given that there is no definitive diagnosis yet, you need to > watch her closely. If there isn't an improvement fairly quickly on the > antibiotics, your vet will probably be considering other explanations. > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlgegg at windstream.net > Sent: May-31-17 5:52 PM > To: felv > Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie > > We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped > eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no > soloids. The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She > will get it 2 times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up > on it and is willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times > for blood. It came out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the > tests. She is also dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to > bring home. She also had to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain > was not getting enough. After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was > stressed by the exam. > Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 > HCT - LOW 23.7 > HGB - LOW 8.4 > RETC HIGH 62.7 > WBC LOW 4.54 > NEU LOW 2.41 > > BUN HIGH 59 > ALKP LOW 10 > TBIL HIGH 1.5 > EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. > sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED > WHEN SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. > sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON > KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. > i JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START > HER ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM > THE LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN > GIVE HER SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. > > aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO > HAVE A VET LIKE THAT. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j13w0lson at gmail.com Wed May 31 19:18:54 2017 From: j13w0lson at gmail.com (Jennifer Olson) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 19:18:54 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] O2 ? Message-ID: Did you get information on how to best safely administer oxygen to your Annie? Jen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlgegg at windstream.net Wed May 31 19:46:53 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 19:46:53 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170531204653.WRBKF.9739.root@pamxwww05-z01> THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMING THAT WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK IT MEANS A LOT TO ME. ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > I don't have a lot to go on, but based on the results, and the physical finding of a painful kidney, it might be a kidney infection gone septic. The total white cell count is low, which may occur when the white cells migrate out of blood circulation to move towards an area of infection in the tissues. You have given a low neutrophil count, but I would also be interested in what is the percentage of neutrophils. If it is a bacterial infection, I would expect a higher than normal percentage of neutrophils. Also, I would be looking for a left shift in the neutrophils. Did they report any immature neutrophils like band cells? Any other neutrophil abnormalities such as toxic granulation? > > The first thing I would focus on is ensuring sufficient hydration. Keep up with the subcutaneous fluids at home. Also, oxygen would help since you want to keep the cells well-perfused and with the dehydration and drop of red cells (though they aren't too low), and oxygen needed at the clinic, you should give her some more if you have a source of it at home. I am concerned that she isn't already on doxycycline. I would perhaps ask the vet to consider intravenous antibiotics, to get the antibiotics levels to go up faster than orally, and then you can give her the oral antibiotics. If it is a kidney infection, fluid replacement and antibiotic therapy is likely far more important than food intake right now. > > It isn't clear that this is an infection, but it might be. Was she tested for vital signs? Did she have temperature,( WAS 99.9) and possibly elevated heart rate. It seems that she certainly would have had a reduced blood pressure, which again is consistent with sepsis from an infection, but isn't the only thing that might cause that. > > I don't think this is a Winstrol situation just yet. I think instead that a combination of broad spectrum antibiotics along with some prednisone/prednisolone THAT IS WHAT THE DR. THINKS AND WE CAN DO THAT TOMORROW WHEN i GO IN TO GET THE dOXY). might be the better approach. > > However, given that there is no definitive diagnosis yet, you need to watch her closely. If there isn't an improvement fairly quickly on the antibiotics, your vet will probably be considering other explanations. i LIKE HER APPROACH TO THIS AND THE FACT THAT SHE IS WILLING TO DO THE WINSTROL GIVES ME HOPE. aNNIE IS 10 YEARS OLD AND THE VET SAID THAT THIS IS AGE WHEN FELV BEGINS TO TAKE IT'S TOLL. > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net > Sent: May-31-17 5:52 PM > To: felv > Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie > > We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no soloids. The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She will get it 2 times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up on it and is willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times for blood. It came out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the tests. She is also dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to bring home. She also had to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain was not getting enough. After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was stressed by the exam. > Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 > HCT - LOW 23.7 > HGB - LOW 8.4 > RETC HIGH 62.7 > WBC LOW 4.54 > NEU LOW 2.41 > > BUN HIGH 59 > ALKP LOW 10 > TBIL HIGH 1.5 > EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. > sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED WHEN SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. > sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. i JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START HER ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM THE LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN GIVE HER SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. > > aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO HAVE A VET LIKE THAT. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From dlgegg at windstream.net Wed May 31 21:06:50 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 21:06:50 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170531220650.ALKW1.16036.root@pamxwww07-z01> I have known all along that I would loose her one day, but it still hurts. She did have 8 years with me so I have that to be thankful for. She joins a growing list of furbabies that have crossed over the bridge. Now she will be in pain no longer. ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > I don't have a lot to go on, but based on the results, and the physical finding of a painful kidney, it might be a kidney infection gone septic. The total white cell count is low, which may occur when the white cells migrate out of blood circulation to move towards an area of infection in the tissues. You have given a low neutrophil count, but I would also be interested in what is the percentage of neutrophils. If it is a bacterial infection, I would expect a higher than normal percentage of neutrophils. Also, I would be looking for a left shift in the neutrophils. Did they report any immature neutrophils like band cells? Any other neutrophil abnormalities such as toxic granulation? > > The first thing I would focus on is ensuring sufficient hydration. Keep up with the subcutaneous fluids at home. Also, oxygen would help since you want to keep the cells well-perfused and with the dehydration and drop of red cells (though they aren't too low), and oxygen needed at the clinic, you should give her some more if you have a source of it at home. I am concerned that she isn't already on doxycycline. I would perhaps ask the vet to consider intravenous antibiotics, to get the antibiotics levels to go up faster than orally, and then you can give her the oral antibiotics. If it is a kidney infection, fluid replacement and antibiotic therapy is likely far more important than food intake right now. > > It isn't clear that this is an infection, but it might be. Was she tested for vital signs? Did she have temperature, and possibly elevated heart rate. It seems that she certainly would have had a reduced blood pressure, which again is consistent with sepsis from an infection, but isn't the only thing that might cause that. > > I don't think this is a Winstrol situation just yet. I think instead that a combination of broad spectrum antibiotics along with some prednisone/prednisolone might be the better approach. > > However, given that there is no definitive diagnosis yet, you need to watch her closely. If there isn't an improvement fairly quickly on the antibiotics, your vet will probably be considering other explanations. > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net > Sent: May-31-17 5:52 PM > To: felv > Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie > > We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no soloids. The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She will get it 2 times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up on it and is willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times for blood. It came out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the tests. She is also dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to bring home. She also had to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain was not getting enough. After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was stressed by the exam. > Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 > HCT - LOW 23.7 > HGB - LOW 8.4 > RETC HIGH 62.7 > WBC LOW 4.54 > NEU LOW 2.41 > > BUN HIGH 59 > ALKP LOW 10 > TBIL HIGH 1.5 > EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. > sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED WHEN SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. > sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. i JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START HER ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM THE LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN GIVE HER SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. > > aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO HAVE A VET LIKE THAT. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From swacht1946 at comcast.net Wed May 31 22:46:21 2017 From: swacht1946 at comcast.net (Sandy) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 03:46:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie In-Reply-To: <20170531220650.ALKW1.16036.root@pamxwww07-z01> References: <20170531220650.ALKW1.16036.root@pamxwww07-z01> Message-ID: <1803122165.47042535.1496288781668.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Oh my - stunned and I'm so sorry Sandy W ----- Original Message ----- From: dlgegg at windstream.net To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:06:50 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Annie I have known all along that I would loose her one day, but it still hurts. She did have 8 years with me so I have that to be thankful for. She joins a growing list of furbabies that have crossed over the bridge. Now she will be in pain no longer. ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > I don't have a lot to go on, but based on the results, and the physical finding of a painful kidney, it might be a kidney infection gone septic. The total white cell count is low, which may occur when the white cells migrate out of blood circulation to move towards an area of infection in the tissues. You have given a low neutrophil count, but I would also be interested in what is the percentage of neutrophils. If it is a bacterial infection, I would expect a higher than normal percentage of neutrophils. Also, I would be looking for a left shift in the neutrophils. Did they report any immature neutrophils like band cells? Any other neutrophil abnormalities such as toxic granulation? > > The first thing I would focus on is ensuring sufficient hydration. Keep up with the subcutaneous fluids at home. Also, oxygen would help since you want to keep the cells well-perfused and with the dehydration and drop of red cells (though they aren't too low), and oxygen needed at the clinic, you should give her some more if you have a source of it at home. I am concerned that she isn't already on doxycycline. I would perhaps ask the vet to consider intravenous antibiotics, to get the antibiotics levels to go up faster than orally, and then you can give her the oral antibiotics. If it is a kidney infection, fluid replacement and antibiotic therapy is likely far more important than food intake right now. > > It isn't clear that this is an infection, but it might be. Was she tested for vital signs? Did she have temperature, and possibly elevated heart rate. It seems that she certainly would have had a reduced blood pressure, which again is consistent with sepsis from an infection, but isn't the only thing that might cause that. > > I don't think this is a Winstrol situation just yet. I think instead that a combination of broad spectrum antibiotics along with some prednisone/prednisolone might be the better approach. > > However, given that there is no definitive diagnosis yet, you need to watch her closely. If there isn't an improvement fairly quickly on the antibiotics, your vet will probably be considering other explanations. > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net > Sent: May-31-17 5:52 PM > To: felv > Subject: [Felvtalk] Annie > > We just got back from the vet and Annie is not in good shape. She stopped eating this am. I did get some broth from Mackeral down her, but no soloids. The vet has ordered Doxy formulated so it will be liquid. She will get it 2 times daily. I have told her about Winstrol and she read up on it and is willing to get it for us is needed. She had to try 3 times for blood. It came out so slowely and started clotting too fast to to the tests. She is also dehydrated so gave sub q fluids and gave me more to bring home. She also had to give her some oxygen for 5 minutes, her brain was not getting enough. After 5 min, she bounced back. Dr. Said she was stressed by the exam. > Bloodwork: RBC - LOW 4.78 > HCT - LOW 23.7 > HGB - LOW 8.4 > RETC HIGH 62.7 > WBC LOW 4.54 > NEU LOW 2.41 > > BUN HIGH 59 > ALKP LOW 10 > TBIL HIGH 1.5 > EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN NORMAL RANGE. > sHE ALSO SAID ONE KIDNY SEEMS ENLARGED AND SLIGHTLY FIRM AND SHE CRIED WHEN SHE APPLIED PRESSURE TO THAT AREA. > sHE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT, DOWN FROM 6.6 LAST VISIT. wE HAD STARTED HER ON KITTNE FOOD TO BRING HER WEIGHT UP AND SHE HAD BEEN EATING UNTIL THIS AM. i JUST RECEIVED A SHIPMENT OF BLUE BUFFALO CANNED FOOD AND I PLAN TO START HER ON THAT MIXED WITH WARM WATER. AT LEAST SHE GETS SOME NOURISHMENT FROM THE LIQUID. i ALSO HAVE A TANK OF OXYGEN LEFT FROM MY FATHER THAT i CAN GIVE HER SOME IS SHE NEEDS IT. > > aNY SUGGESTIONS? SHE WILL GO ALONG WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. sO NICE TO HAVE A VET LIKE THAT. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: