From bchapel at optonline.net Thu Jul 20 09:28:02 2017 From: bchapel at optonline.net (ROBERT CHAPEL) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... Message-ID: <63e96949.bd2ed.15d6065fa98.Webtop.32@optonline.net> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again not getting group mail.... Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening)....??? Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)...? When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly)? His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny...? supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications which I have suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)...? Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM...? Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep...? Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint? ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME??? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... Bob Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Thu Jul 20 09:36:56 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 14:36:56 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: <63e96949.bd2ed.15d6065fa98.Webtop.32@optonline.net> References: <63e96949.bd2ed.15d6065fa98.Webtop.32@optonline.net> Message-ID: <48067898b58849d7b2304270f347fc7c@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again not getting group mail.... Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications which I have suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... Bob Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From merrykatmeows at email.com Thu Jul 20 09:37:33 2017 From: merrykatmeows at email.com (kat) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:37:33 +0200 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: <63e96949.bd2ed.15d6065fa98.Webtop.32@optonline.net> References: <63e96949.bd2ed.15d6065fa98.Webtop.32@optonline.net> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aoakley at oakleylegal.com Thu Jul 20 10:50:23 2017 From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 15:50:23 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: <48067898b58849d7b2304270f347fc7c@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> References: <63e96949.bd2ed.15d6065fa98.Webtop.32@optonline.net> <48067898b58849d7b2304270f347fc7c@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats (and being called into question in humans too). Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again not getting group mail.... Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications which I have suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... Bob Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Thu Jul 20 11:06:04 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:06:04 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: References: <63e96949.bd2ed.15d6065fa98.Webtop.32@optonline.net> <48067898b58849d7b2304270f347fc7c@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: <5c52afd956964dfca97d8d757479c6f4@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Ok thanks, wasn?t sure if I was giving him too many treats. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:50 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats (and being called into question in humans too). Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again not getting group mail.... Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications which I have suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... Bob Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aoakley at oakleylegal.com Thu Jul 20 11:08:46 2017 From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:08:46 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: <5c52afd956964dfca97d8d757479c6f4@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> References: <63e96949.bd2ed.15d6065fa98.Webtop.32@optonline.net> <48067898b58849d7b2304270f347fc7c@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> <5c52afd956964dfca97d8d757479c6f4@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: Not at all related. I have no idea why a cholesterol would even be run on a young kitty like that. Even with an older cat, it is seriously questionable whether cholesterol has any relevance. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 12:06 PM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... Ok thanks, wasn?t sure if I was giving him too many treats. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:50 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats (and being called into question in humans too). Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again not getting group mail.... Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications which I have suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... Bob Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sheri7177 at gmail.com Thu Jul 20 11:38:41 2017 From: sheri7177 at gmail.com (Sheri Burbridge) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:38:41 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: References: <63e96949.bd2ed.15d6065fa98.Webtop.32@optonline.net> <48067898b58849d7b2304270f347fc7c@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> <5c52afd956964dfca97d8d757479c6f4@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: Hi there! Things have been quiet around here but I was sincerely hoping that meant everyone was doing really well! Bob, I'm glad to hear little Gilbert is still with you and comfortable despite his prognosis. How wonderful that he has had such a good home with you during this time. My girl Violet is doing great! She's such a character and very much a kitten still! She killed a mouse last week (which is horrifying, I've never seen evidence of a mouse anywhere in our house, I'm hoping it got in and she just took care of business and there are no more!) Luckily, she didn't eat it (and I got it before the dogs), just left it at the top of the stairs as a good morning gift for us! I'm glad she's doing well because our Cocker Spaniel with renal failure and 2 bad knees is enough of a challenge at the moment. I can only handle so much at a time. So there's my update! I hope every one is having a happy and healthy summer! Sheri On Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 12:09 PM Amani Oakley wrote: > Not at all related. I have no idea why a cholesterol would even be run on > a young kitty like that. Even with an older cat, it is seriously > questionable whether cholesterol has any relevance. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > *Sent:* July-20-17 12:06 PM > > > *To:* 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > Ok thanks, wasn?t sure if I was giving him too many treats. > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Amani Oakley > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:50 AM > *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats > (and being called into question in humans too). > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Armstrong-Brown, > Sheila DDS Timonium > *Sent:* July-20-17 10:37 AM > *To:* 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. > High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years > old, I hope he is around a long time. > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org > ] *On Behalf Of *ROBERT CHAPEL > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again > not getting group mail.... > Has there been activity I've missed?? > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we > all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy > it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience > with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg > QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I > would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are > killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have > gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... > Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down > on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is > up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via > syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting > substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor > activity) Two other " alternative " medications which I have suspended only > because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him > something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep > anything PO to a minimum.... > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do > Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as > FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain > injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been > insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't > in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough > to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of > animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint ( > Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner > thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than > Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get > cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and > happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... > > Bob > > Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlgegg at windstream.net Thu Jul 20 17:57:20 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 17:57:20 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170720185720.7PVX4.22526.root@pamxwww04-z01> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard anything. ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats (and being called into question in humans too). > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again not getting group mail.... > Has there been activity I've missed?? > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications which I have suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do > Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... > > Bob > > Bob > From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Fri Jul 21 06:43:51 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 11:43:51 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: <20170720185720.7PVX4.22526.root@pamxwww04-z01> References: <20170720185720.7PVX4.22526.root@pamxwww04-z01> Message-ID: It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard anything. ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats (and being called into question in humans too). > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again not getting group mail.... > Has there been activity I've missed?? > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! which I h ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... > > Bob > > Bob > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From thyme2sail at gmail.com Fri Jul 21 07:21:16 2017 From: thyme2sail at gmail.com (Pam Doore) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 08:21:16 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: References: <20170720185720.7PVX4.22526.root@pamxwww04-z01> Message-ID: Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every 6 > months and I thought it was odd too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlgegg at windstream.net > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > anything. > > ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats > (and being called into question in humans too). > > > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > > To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. > High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years > old, I hope he is around a long time. > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again > not getting group mail.... > > Has there been activity I've missed?? > > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we > all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy > it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience > with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg > QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I > would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are > killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have > gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... > Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down > on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is > up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via > syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting > substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor > activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > which I h > ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time > I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I > want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are > doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him > with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range > and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight > line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's > part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to > and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd > like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a > more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to > get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens > running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask > you!!!!)... > > > > Bob > > > > Bob > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Fri Jul 21 07:34:38 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 12:34:38 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: References: <20170720185720.7PVX4.22526.root@pamxwww04-z01> Message-ID: <9b2e24ac81134c4e98d5f773bb449e26@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my first FELV cat. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard anything. ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats (and being called into question in humans too). > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again not getting group mail.... > Has there been activity I've missed?? > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! which I h ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... > > Bob > > Bob > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thyme2sail at gmail.com Fri Jul 21 08:38:42 2017 From: thyme2sail at gmail.com (Pam Doore) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: <9b2e24ac81134c4e98d5f773bb449e26@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> References: <20170720185720.7PVX4.22526.root@pamxwww04-z01> <9b2e24ac81134c4e98d5f773bb449e26@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my first > FELV cat. > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Pam Doore > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > > On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > > It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every 6 > months and I thought it was odd too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlgegg at windstream.net > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > anything. > > ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats > (and being called into question in humans too). > > > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > > To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. > High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years > old, I hope he is around a long time. > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again > not getting group mail.... > > Has there been activity I've missed?? > > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we > all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy > it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience > with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg > QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I > would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are > killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have > gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... > Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down > on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is > up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via > syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting > substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor > activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > which I h > ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time > I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I > want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are > doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him > with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range > and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight > line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's > part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to > and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd > like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a > more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to > get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens > running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask > you!!!!)... > > > > Bob > > > > Bob > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Fri Jul 21 09:03:15 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: References: <20170720185720.7PVX4.22526.root@pamxwww04-z01> <9b2e24ac81134c4e98d5f773bb449e26@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan is up to 28 cats. Insane. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my first FELV cat. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard anything. ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats (and being called into question in humans too). > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again not getting group mail.... > Has there been activity I've missed?? > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! which I h ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... > > Bob > > Bob > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thyme2sail at gmail.com Fri Jul 21 09:58:26 2017 From: thyme2sail at gmail.com (Pam Doore) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:58:26 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: References: <20170720185720.7PVX4.22526.root@pamxwww04-z01> <9b2e24ac81134c4e98d5f773bb449e26@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: You could vaccinate one of yours against felv. or maybe a different species for him to watch like a fish tank, bird feeders outside of room, or if you have a smart tv..paul dinning videos on youtube are a favorite of mine and my girls :). Mozart and Miko did everything together. Their mom, Ally tolerated being with them but would have been fine as only kitty. After Miko died, eventually she started playing with him. He is definitely more dependent on her now than she is on him :-). On Jul 21, 2017 10:06 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the house. > He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if him and > another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan is up to 28 > cats. Insane. > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Pam Doore > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM > *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her kittens. > One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I took another > FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too :). > > On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > > No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my first > FELV cat. > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Pam Doore > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > > On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > > It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every 6 > months and I thought it was odd too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlgegg at windstream.net > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > anything. > > ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats > (and being called into question in humans too). > > > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > > To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. > High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years > old, I hope he is around a long time. > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again > not getting group mail.... > > Has there been activity I've missed?? > > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we > all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy > it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience > with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg > QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I > would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are > killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have > gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... > Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down > on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is > up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via > syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting > substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor > activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > which I h > ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time > I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I > want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are > doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him > with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range > and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight > line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's > part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to > and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd > like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a > more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to > get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens > running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask > you!!!!)... > > > > Bob > > > > Bob > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Fri Jul 21 11:54:03 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 16:54:03 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: References: <20170720185720.7PVX4.22526.root@pamxwww04-z01> <9b2e24ac81134c4e98d5f773bb449e26@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: <99749fe1473841d8a8b83b9338e615c6@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> I tried, I was going to get him a rabbit but Skylar is huge and would kill it. I tried to see if he liked my dog and my dog scares the hell out of him and the dog is old. LOL have a nice weekend. I wanted to find someone who lived close who had an FELV Cat so we could see how they did together but no one lives near me. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 10:58 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... You could vaccinate one of yours against felv. or maybe a different species for him to watch like a fish tank, bird feeders outside of room, or if you have a smart tv..paul dinning videos on youtube are a favorite of mine and my girls :). Mozart and Miko did everything together. Their mom, Ally tolerated being with them but would have been fine as only kitty. After Miko died, eventually she started playing with him. He is definitely more dependent on her now than she is on him :-). On Jul 21, 2017 10:06 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan is up to 28 cats. Insane. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my first FELV cat. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard anything. ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats (and being called into question in humans too). > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again not getting group mail.... > Has there been activity I've missed?? > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! which I h ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... > > Bob > > Bob > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thyme2sail at gmail.com Fri Jul 21 12:11:38 2017 From: thyme2sail at gmail.com (Pam Doore) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 13:11:38 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: <99749fe1473841d8a8b83b9338e615c6@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> References: <20170720185720.7PVX4.22526.root@pamxwww04-z01> <9b2e24ac81134c4e98d5f773bb449e26@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> <99749fe1473841d8a8b83b9338e615c6@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: I live in western ny if that helps. On Jul 21, 2017 12:54 PM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > I tried, I was going to get him a rabbit but Skylar is huge and would kill > it. I tried to see if he liked my dog and my dog scares the hell out of > him and the dog is old. LOL have a nice weekend. I wanted to find > someone who lived close who had an FELV Cat so we could see how they did > together but no one lives near me. > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Pam Doore > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 10:58 AM > *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > You could vaccinate one of yours against felv. or maybe a different > species for him to watch like a fish tank, bird feeders outside of room, or > if you have a smart tv..paul dinning videos on youtube are a favorite of > mine and my girls :). > > Mozart and Miko did everything together. Their mom, Ally tolerated being > with them but would have been fine as only kitty. After Miko died, > eventually she started playing with him. He is definitely more dependent > on her now than she is on him :-). > > On Jul 21, 2017 10:06 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > > I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the house. > He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if him and > another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan is up to 28 > cats. Insane. > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Pam Doore > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM > *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her kittens. > One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I took another > FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too :). > > On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > > No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my first > FELV cat. > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Pam Doore > *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > > On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > > It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every 6 > months and I thought it was odd too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlgegg at windstream.net > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > anything. > > ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats > (and being called into question in humans too). > > > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > > To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. > High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years > old, I hope he is around a long time. > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again > not getting group mail.... > > Has there been activity I've missed?? > > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we > all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy > it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience > with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg > QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I > would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are > killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have > gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... > Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down > on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is > up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via > syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting > substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor > activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > which I h > ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time > I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I > want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are > doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him > with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range > and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight > line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's > part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to > and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd > like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a > more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to > get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens > running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask > you!!!!)... > > > > Bob > > > > Bob > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Fri Jul 21 12:18:20 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 17:18:20 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: References: <20170720185720.7PVX4.22526.root@pamxwww04-z01> <9b2e24ac81134c4e98d5f773bb449e26@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> <99749fe1473841d8a8b83b9338e615c6@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: I am by Gettysburg PA. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 1:12 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... I live in western ny if that helps. On Jul 21, 2017 12:54 PM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: I tried, I was going to get him a rabbit but Skylar is huge and would kill it. I tried to see if he liked my dog and my dog scares the hell out of him and the dog is old. LOL have a nice weekend. I wanted to find someone who lived close who had an FELV Cat so we could see how they did together but no one lives near me. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 10:58 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... You could vaccinate one of yours against felv. or maybe a different species for him to watch like a fish tank, bird feeders outside of room, or if you have a smart tv..paul dinning videos on youtube are a favorite of mine and my girls :). Mozart and Miko did everything together. Their mom, Ally tolerated being with them but would have been fine as only kitty. After Miko died, eventually she started playing with him. He is definitely more dependent on her now than she is on him :-). On Jul 21, 2017 10:06 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan is up to 28 cats. Insane. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my first FELV cat. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard anything. ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats (and being called into question in humans too). > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again not getting group mail.... > Has there been activity I've missed?? > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! which I h ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... > > Bob > > Bob > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 > From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > kittens. One > kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I took another > FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too > :). > On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >> first >> FELV cat. >> >> >> >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >> Behalf >> Of *Pam Doore >> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >> >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >> >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >> every 6 >> months and I thought it was odd too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of >> dlgegg at windstream.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >> anything. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>> cats >> (and being called into question in humans too). >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>> great. >> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >> years >> old, I hope he is around a long time. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf >>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>> again >> not getting group mail.... >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>> as we >> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >> enjoy >> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >> experience >> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >> 7.5 mg >> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that >> I >> would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel >> they are >> killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have >> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >> controlled.... >> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >> down >> on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if >> pain is >> up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered >> via >> syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting >> substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor >> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >> which I h >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >> time >> I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >> cavity I >> want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>> die >>> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are >> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >> him >> with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his >> range >> and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a >> straight >> line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess >> that's >> part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they >> have to >> and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps >> I'd >> like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm >> a >> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have >> to >> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >> Mittens >> running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask >> you!!!!)... >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > in..... > Message-ID: > <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the > house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if > him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan > is up to 28 cats. Insane. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Pam Doore > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I > took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up > adopting her too :). > On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > wrote: > No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > first FELV cat. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Pam Doore > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > wrote: > It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every > 6 months and I thought it was odd too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of dlgegg at windstream.net > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > anything. > > ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >> >> Amani >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >> again not getting group mail.... >> Has there been activity I've missed?? >> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as >> we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions >> ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down >> on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if >> pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( >> interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have >> anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > which I h > ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every > time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral > cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die >> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are >> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I >> ask you!!!!)... >> >> Bob >> >> Bob >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 > *************************************** > From dlgegg at windstream.net Fri Jul 21 19:02:38 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 19:02:38 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170721200238.H8ZQE.12376.root@pamxwww05-z01> ---- Sheri Burbridge wrote: > Hi there! Things have been quiet around here but I was sincerely hoping > that meant everyone was doing really well! > > Bob, I'm glad to hear little Gilbert is still with you and comfortable > despite his prognosis. How wonderful that he has had such a good home with > you during this time. > > My girl Violet is doing great! She's such a character and very much a > kitten still! She killed a mouse last week (which is horrifying, I've never > seen evidence of a mouse anywhere in our house, I'm hoping it got in and > she just took care of business and there are no more!) Luckily, she didn't > eat it (and I got it before the dogs), just left it at the top of the > stairs as a good morning gift for us! THEY ARE COMING IN BECAUSE OF THE HEAT AND LACK OF RAIN. AT MY HOUSE THEY ARE COMING IN TO THE LION'S DEN BECAUSE HARLEY TACKLE ANYTHING THAT MOVES AND THEN DROPS THEM BY MY BED TO SHOW ME HOW GREAT A HUNTER HE IS. HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN I GET UP AT NIGHT THAT I DON'T STEP ON A CARCASS. > > I'm glad she's doing well because our Cocker Spaniel with renal failure and > 2 bad knees is enough of a challenge at the moment. I can only handle so > much at a time. > > So there's my update! I hope every one is having a happy and healthy summer! > > Sheri > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 12:09 PM Amani Oakley wrote: > > > Not at all related. I have no idea why a cholesterol would even be run on > > a young kitty like that. Even with an older cat, it is seriously > > questionable whether cholesterol has any relevance. > > > > > > > > Amani > > > > > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > > Of *Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > > *Sent:* July-20-17 12:06 PM > > > > > > *To:* 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > > > > > Ok thanks, wasn?t sure if I was giving him too many treats. > > > > > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org > > ] *On Behalf Of *Amani Oakley > > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:50 AM > > *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > > > > > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats > > (and being called into question in humans too). > > > > > > > > Amani > > > > > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org > > ] *On Behalf Of *Armstrong-Brown, > > Sheila DDS Timonium > > *Sent:* July-20-17 10:37 AM > > *To:* 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > > > > > My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. > > High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years > > old, I hope he is around a long time. > > > > > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org > > ] *On Behalf Of *ROBERT CHAPEL > > *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > > *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > > > > > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again > > not getting group mail.... > > Has there been activity I've missed?? > > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we > > all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy > > it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have experience > > with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg > > QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I > > would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are > > killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have > > gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... > > Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down > > on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is > > up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via > > syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting > > substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor > > activity) Two other " alternative " medications which I have suspended only > > because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him > > something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep > > anything PO to a minimum.... > > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do > > Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as > > FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain > > injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been > > insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't > > in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough > > to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of > > animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without complaint ( > > Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner > > thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than > > Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get > > cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and > > happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... > > > > Bob > > > > Bob > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > From dlgegg at windstream.net Fri Jul 21 19:04:53 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 19:04:53 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... In-Reply-To: <63e96949.bd2ed.15d6065fa98.Webtop.32@optonline.net> Message-ID: <20170721200453.X44C7.12390.root@pamxwww05-z01> I HAVEN'T GOTTEN MUCH MAIL, BUT HAVE BEEN BUSY PREPARING FOR OPEN HEART SURGERY AND MAKING ARRANGEMENTS FOR CARE FOR THE CATS AND MY GARDEN. MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH ARE GOING TO HELP ME WHEN I COME HOME FROM SURGERY AND THE DOCTOR TOLD ME I CAN FEED, WATER AND CLEAN BOXES AND FIX MY OWN MEALS LIKE SALADS. ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again > not getting group mail.... > Has there been activity I've missed?? > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we > all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just > enjoy it while it's happening)....??? Wondering if any of you have > experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say > above 7.5 mg QD)...? When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the > proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to > unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly)? His Tumor > does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be > pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping > the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on > Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, > prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, > Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer > scrutiny...? supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " > alternative " medications which I have suspended only because the poor > boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... > with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a > minimum.... > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do > Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as > FeLV Kitties can do)...? Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain > injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been > insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM...? > Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy > is enough to make you weep...? Guess that's part of why I am such a fan > of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without > complaint? ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if > their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME??? I'm a more thoughtful > caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a > car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running > around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... > Bob > Bob > From merrykatmeows at email.com Fri Jul 21 20:32:13 2017 From: merrykatmeows at email.com (kat) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 03:32:13 +0200 Subject: [Felvtalk] Surgery (was:Checking in.....) In-Reply-To: <20170721200453.X44C7.12390.root@pamxwww05-z01> References: <63e96949.bd2ed.15d6065fa98.Webtop.32@optonline.net> <20170721200453.X44C7.12390.root@pamxwww05-z01> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From swacht1946 at comcast.net Sat Jul 22 17:58:38 2017 From: swacht1946 at comcast.net (Sandy) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Felvtalk] Surgery (was:Checking in.....) In-Reply-To: References: <63e96949.bd2ed.15d6065fa98.Webtop.32@optonline.net> <20170721200453.X44C7.12390.root@pamxwww05-z01> Message-ID: <2101195420.12100600.1500764318177.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Robert, I pray all will go well with your surgery!! Sandy W ----- Original Message ----- From: "kat" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:32:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery (was:Checking in.....) I will be keeping you in my thoughts & prayers!! Please let us know when you are back home. Kat (Mew Jersey) Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 at 8:04 PM From: dlgegg at windstream.net To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Cc: "ROBERT CHAPEL" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... I HAVEN'T GOTTEN MUCH MAIL, BUT HAVE BEEN BUSY PREPARING FOR OPEN HEART SURGERY AND MAKING ARRANGEMENTS FOR CARE FOR THE CATS AND MY GARDEN. MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH ARE GOING TO HELP ME WHEN I COME HOME FROM SURGERY AND THE DOCTOR TOLD ME I CAN FEED, WATER AND CLEAN BOXES AND FIX MY OWN MEALS LIKE SALADS. ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again > not getting group mail.... > Has there been activity I've missed?? > My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we > all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just > enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have > experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say > above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the > proviso that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to > unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor > does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be > pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping > the most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on > Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, > prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, > Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer > scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " > alternative " medications which I have suspended only because the poor > boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him something..... > with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a > minimum.... > Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > don't and the ones that that aren't ..do > Hope everyones buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as > FeLV Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain > injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been > insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... > Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy > is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan > of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without > complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less if > their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful > caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a > car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running > around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... > Bob > Bob > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I started a 2nd job at an animal hospital so I can get the discount on all the cats. It's still very expensive. No fosters, they stray in to the farm and people drop off sickly animals and all the humane society would say is that if I turned the cats in to them, they would be put down. So until I can't afford to eat, I just get them spayed, neutered and healthy again and I just keep them. 14 are indoors. The sickly and sweet ones I always bring in . Glad I have a big house. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Hi Sheila... Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? Bob On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) > 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 > From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I > took another > FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too > :). > On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >> first FELV cat. >> >> >> >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >> Behalf >> Of *Pam Doore >> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >> >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >> >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >> every 6 >> months and I thought it was odd too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of >> dlgegg at windstream.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >> anything. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>> cats >> (and being called into question in humans too). >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>> great. >> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >> years >> old, I hope he is around a long time. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf >>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>> again >> not getting group mail.... >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>> as we >> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >> enjoy >> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >> experience >> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >> 7.5 mg >> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that >> I >> would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel >> they are >> killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have >> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >> controlled.... >> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >> down >> on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if >> pain is >> up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered >> via >> syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting >> substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor >> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >> which I h >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >> time >> I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >> cavity I >> want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>> die >>> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are >> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >> him >> with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his >> range >> and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a >> straight >> line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess >> that's >> part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they >> have to >> and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps >> I'd >> like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm >> a >> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have >> to >> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >> Mittens >> running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask >> you!!!!)... >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > in..... > Message-ID: > <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the > house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if > him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan > is up to 28 cats. Insane. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Pam Doore > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I > took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up > adopting her too :). > On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > wrote: > No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > first FELV cat. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Pam Doore > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > wrote: > It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every > 6 months and I thought it was odd too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of dlgegg at windstream.net > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > anything. > > ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >> >> Amani >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >> again not getting group mail.... >> Has there been activity I've missed?? >> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as >> we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions >> ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down >> on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if >> pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( >> interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have >> anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > which I h > ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every > time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral > cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die >> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are >> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I >> ask you!!!!)... >> >> Bob >> >> Bob >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 > *************************************** > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Mon Jul 24 07:12:36 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 12:12:36 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> Message-ID: I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Hi Sheila... Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? Bob On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) > 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 > From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I > took another > FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too > :). > On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >> first FELV cat. >> >> >> >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >> Behalf >> Of *Pam Doore >> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >> >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >> >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >> every 6 >> months and I thought it was odd too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of >> dlgegg at windstream.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >> anything. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>> cats >> (and being called into question in humans too). >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>> great. >> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >> years >> old, I hope he is around a long time. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf >>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>> again >> not getting group mail.... >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>> as we >> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >> enjoy >> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >> experience >> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >> 7.5 mg >> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that >> I >> would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel >> they are >> killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have >> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >> controlled.... >> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >> down >> on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if >> pain is >> up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered >> via >> syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting >> substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor >> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >> which I h >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >> time >> I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >> cavity I >> want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>> die >>> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are >> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >> him >> with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his >> range >> and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a >> straight >> line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess >> that's >> part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they >> have to >> and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps >> I'd >> like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm >> a >> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have >> to >> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >> Mittens >> running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask >> you!!!!)... >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > in..... > Message-ID: > <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the > house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if > him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan > is up to 28 cats. Insane. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Pam Doore > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I > took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up > adopting her too :). > On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > wrote: > No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > first FELV cat. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Pam Doore > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > wrote: > It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every > 6 months and I thought it was odd too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of dlgegg at windstream.net > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > anything. > > ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >> >> Amani >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >> again not getting group mail.... >> Has there been activity I've missed?? >> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as >> we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions >> ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down >> on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if >> pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( >> interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have >> anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > which I h > ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every > time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral > cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die >> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are >> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I >> ask you!!!!)... >> >> Bob >> >> Bob >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 > *************************************** > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From tessie1965 at icloud.com Mon Jul 24 07:59:14 2017 From: tessie1965 at icloud.com (Marlene Snowman) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 09:59:14 -0300 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> Message-ID: <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. M Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Hi Sheila... > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > that is a lot of cats to look after > and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > > Bob > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 >> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I >> took another >> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too >> :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >> >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>> first FELV cat. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>> Behalf >>> Of *Pam Doore >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>> >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>> every 6 >>> months and I thought it was odd too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >>> Of >>> dlgegg at windstream.net >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>> anything. >>> >>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>> cats >>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>> great. >>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >>> years >>> old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>> again >>> not getting group mail.... >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>> as we >>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >>> enjoy >>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >>> experience >>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >>> 7.5 mg >>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that >>> I >>> would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel >>> they are >>> killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have >>> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >>> controlled.... >>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >>> down >>> on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if >>> pain is >>> up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered >>> via >>> syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting >>> substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor >>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>> which I h >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>> time >>> I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >>> cavity I >>> want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>> die >>>> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are >>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him >>> with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his >>> range >>> and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a >>> straight >>> line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess >>> that's >>> part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they >>> have to >>> and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps >>> I'd >>> like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm >>> a >>> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have >>> to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens >>> running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask >>> you!!!!)... >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 >> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >> >> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >> in..... >> Message-ID: >> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I >> took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up >> adopting her too :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >> first FELV cat. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every >> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of dlgegg at windstream.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >> anything. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >>> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>> again not getting group mail.... >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as >>> we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions >>> ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down >>> on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if >>> pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( >>> interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have >>> anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >> which I h >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die >>> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are >>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I >>> ask you!!!!)... >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 >> *************************************** >> > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Mon Jul 24 08:03:35 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 13:03:35 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> Message-ID: So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for the info -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. M Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Hi Sheila... > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > that is a lot of cats to look after > and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > > Bob > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 >> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another >> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too >> :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >> >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>> first FELV cat. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>> >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>> anything. >>> >>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>> cats >>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>> great. >>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>> again >>> not getting group mail.... >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>> as we >>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >>> enjoy >>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >>> experience >>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >>> 7.5 mg >>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso >>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I >>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not >>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty >>> well controlled.... >>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could >>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc >>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg >>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ >>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor >>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>> which I h >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his >>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>> are >>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 >> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >> >> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >> in..... >> Message-ID: >> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up >> adopting her too :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >> first FELV cat. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >> every >> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of dlgegg at windstream.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >> anything. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>> again not getting group mail.... >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID >>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID >>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >> which I h >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 >> *************************************** >> > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From tessie1965 at icloud.com Mon Jul 24 08:46:04 2017 From: tessie1965 at icloud.com (Marlene Snowman) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:46:04 -0300 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> Message-ID: <85156E04-DD04-437F-9DB2-427343FABB47@icloud.com> My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more chances. Who really knows.... Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for the info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. > > My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. > > M > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: >> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Hi Sheila... >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... >> that is a lot of cats to look after >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> wrote: >> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 >>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >>> I took another >>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too >>> :). >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>> >>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>>> first FELV cat. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore >>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>> >>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>>> anything. >>>> >>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>>> cats >>>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>> >>>>> Amani >>>>> >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>> >>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>> great. >>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >>>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>> >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>> >>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>> again >>>> not getting group mail.... >>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>>> as we >>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >>>> enjoy >>>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >>>> experience >>>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >>>> 7.5 mg >>>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso >>>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I >>>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not >>>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty >>>> well controlled.... >>>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could >>>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc >>>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg >>>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ >>>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>>> have anti tumor >>>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>>> which I h >>>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his >>>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>>> are >>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>> rg >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>> rg >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>> rg >>>> >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>> scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 >>> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >>> >>> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>> in..... >>> Message-ID: >>> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >>> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >>> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >>> Of Pam Doore >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >>> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up >>> adopting her too :). >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>> wrote: >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>> first FELV cat. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >>> Of Pam Doore >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>> wrote: >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>> every >>> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >>> Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>> anything. >>> >>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>> again not getting group mail.... >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >>>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >>>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >>>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >>>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID >>>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >>>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID >>>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>> which I h >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >>> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>> scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 >>> *************************************** >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From sheri7177 at gmail.com Mon Jul 24 09:26:55 2017 From: sheri7177 at gmail.com (Sheri Burbridge) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 14:26:55 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: <85156E04-DD04-437F-9DB2-427343FABB47@icloud.com> References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> <85156E04-DD04-437F-9DB2-427343FABB47@icloud.com> Message-ID: Sheila, in my (completely unprofessional) opinion, the vaccine is a good idea for your cats that are currently healthy. If it were me, I'd keep the FIV and FeLV separated just because they already have compromised immune systems and any illness they come in contact with could really be devastating. Also, the less stressed your FeLV cat is, the better off they will be. Thank you for taking in so many sick and unwanted animals, they are certainly lucky to have found their way to your home! Sheri On Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 9:46 AM Marlene Snowman wrote: > My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 > percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune system > has more chances. Who really knows.... > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium < > Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > > > > So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it > for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. > Thanks for the info > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Marlene Snowman > > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > > > I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The > 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains > negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate > litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also > cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each > other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the > 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, > you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So > far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. > Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one > would have been sicker at the onset. > > > > My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the > decision to introduce or not is a tough one. > > > > M > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium < > Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >> > >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does > anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting > Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. > But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they > would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness > since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV > cat. Thanks for any info > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > >> > >> Hi Sheila... > >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > >> that is a lot of cats to look after > >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them > fosters??? > >> > >> Bob > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>> > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >>> g > >>> > >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > >>> > >>> > >>> Today's Topics: > >>> > >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) > >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> - > >>> > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 > >>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> Message-ID: > >>> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >>> > >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus > >>> I took another > >>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too > >>> :). > >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >>> > >>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > >>>> first FELV cat. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On > >>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore > >>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > >>>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > >>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork > >>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net > >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > >>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > >>>> anything. > >>>> > >>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > >>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in > >>>>> cats > >>>> (and being called into question in humans too). > >>>>> > >>>>> Amani > >>>>> > >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > >>>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > >>>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>>> > >>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back > >>>>> great. > >>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 > >>>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. > >>>>> > >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > >>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>>> > >>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once > >>>>> again > >>>> not getting group mail.... > >>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? > >>>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( > >>>>> as we > >>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just > >>>> enjoy > >>>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have > >>>> experience > >>>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above > >>>> 7.5 mg > >>>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso > >>>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I > >>>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not > >>>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty > >>>> well controlled.... > >>>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could > >>>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc > >>>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg > >>>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ > >>>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to > >>>> have anti tumor > >>>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > >>>> which I h > >>>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every > >>>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his > >>>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > >>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) > >>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies > >>>>> are > >>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left > >>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding > >>>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything > >>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to > >>>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of > >>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without > >>>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less > >>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more > >>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to > >>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk > >>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice > >>>> I ask you!!!!)... > >>>>> > >>>>> Bob > >>>>> > >>>>> Bob > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> > >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > >>>> rg > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> > >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > >>>> rg > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> > >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > >>>> rg > >>>> > >>>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > >>> scrubbed... > >>> URL: > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Message: 2 > >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 > >>> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>> > >>> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > >>> in..... > >>> Message-ID: > >>> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >>> > >>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the > >>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if > >>> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan > >>> is up to 28 cats. Insane. > >>> > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >>> Of Pam Doore > >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM > >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> > >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus > >>> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up > >>> adopting her too :). > >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > >>> wrote: > >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > >>> first FELV cat. > >>> > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >>> Of Pam Doore > >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> > >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > >>> wrote: > >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork > >>> every > >>> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >>> Of dlgegg at windstream.net > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > >>> anything. > >>> > >>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: > >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in > >>>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). > >>>> > >>>> Amani > >>>> > >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back > >>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is > >>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. > >>>> > >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> > >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once > >>>> again not getting group mail.... > >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? > >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( > >>>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll > >>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you > >>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered > >>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster > >>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their > >>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him > >>>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any > >>>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just > >>>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut > >>>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID > >>>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD > >>>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID > >>>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to > >>>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > >>> which I h > >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every > >>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral > >>> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) > >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies > >>>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can > do)... > >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left > >>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding > >>>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything > >>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to > >>>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of > >>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without > >>>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less > >>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more > >>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to > >>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk > >>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice > >>>> I ask you!!!!)... > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >>> g > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >>> g > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >>> g > >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > >>> scrubbed... > >>> URL: > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Subject: Digest Footer > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >>> g > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 > >>> *************************************** > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Mon Jul 24 09:30:29 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 14:30:29 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> <85156E04-DD04-437F-9DB2-427343FABB47@icloud.com> Message-ID: <9f79ce4754514504b4af2968a8cd3a74@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Thank you . I love them all but a vacation one year might be nice. Too many animals to leave and go away. I don?t trust many to actually be able to medicine the ones that need it. Just the soft food is $60 a week. Besides the 25 pounds of dry food. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 10:27 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Sheila, in my (completely unprofessional) opinion, the vaccine is a good idea for your cats that are currently healthy. If it were me, I'd keep the FIV and FeLV separated just because they already have compromised immune systems and any illness they come in contact with could really be devastating. Also, the less stressed your FeLV cat is, the better off they will be. Thank you for taking in so many sick and unwanted animals, they are certainly lucky to have found their way to your home! Sheri On Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 9:46 AM Marlene Snowman > wrote: My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more chances. Who really knows.... Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > wrote: > > So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for the info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. > > My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. > > M > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > wrote: >> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Hi Sheila... >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... >> that is a lot of cats to look after >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> wrote: >> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 >>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >>> I took another >>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too >>> :). >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>> >>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>>> first FELV cat. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore >>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>> >>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>>> anything. >>>> >>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>>> cats >>>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>> >>>>> Amani >>>>> >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>> >>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>> great. >>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >>>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>> >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>> >>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>> again >>>> not getting group mail.... >>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>>> as we >>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >>>> enjoy >>>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >>>> experience >>>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >>>> 7.5 mg >>>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso >>>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I >>>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not >>>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty >>>> well controlled.... >>>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could >>>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc >>>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg >>>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ >>>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>>> have anti tumor >>>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>>> which I h >>>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his >>>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>>> are >>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>> rg >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>> rg >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>> rg >>>> >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>> scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 >>> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >>> >>> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>> in..... >>> Message-ID: >>> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >>> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >>> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >>> Of Pam Doore >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >>> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up >>> adopting her too :). >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>> wrote: >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>> first FELV cat. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >>> Of Pam Doore >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>> wrote: >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>> every >>> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >>> Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>> anything. >>> >>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>> again not getting group mail.... >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >>>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >>>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >>>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >>>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID >>>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >>>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID >>>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>> which I h >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >>> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>> scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 >>> *************************************** >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gloriajhook at verizon.net Mon Jul 24 10:42:51 2017 From: gloriajhook at verizon.net (Gloria) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:42:51 -0700 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> Message-ID: Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as a drum-especially when he wants attention! I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have inside! ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a variety of brands- and fresh water ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by law ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on retirement funds ?Pray: a lot Will be praying for Robert too! -g ?? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Hi Sheila... > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > that is a lot of cats to look after > and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > > Bob > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Mon Jul 24 10:56:06 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:56:06 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> Message-ID: <6194923b48b64835bf76a6d451b92383@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> I have the same set up, a door with plexi so he can see the other animals. He has a bed and tv and 2 big rooms to run around, I just feel bad that he is alone most of the time until I get home and we watch TV together for acouple. I am scared of that vaccines b/c of the dangers I hear about. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:43 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as a drum-especially when he wants attention! I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have inside! ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a variety of brands- and fresh water ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by law ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on retirement funds ?Pray: a lot Will be praying for Robert too! -g ?? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Hi Sheila... > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > that is a lot of cats to look after > and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > > Bob > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From swacht1946 at comcast.net Mon Jul 24 11:14:08 2017 From: swacht1946 at comcast.net (Sandy) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: <85156E04-DD04-437F-9DB2-427343FABB47@icloud.com> References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> <85156E04-DD04-437F-9DB2-427343FABB47@icloud.com> Message-ID: <14070569.13183874.1500912848812.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school and unless they seek to know more and better info continue with the same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I guess it's like each one has to do for our own health care - be informed and take charge. And, it's not easy Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Snowman" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more chances. Who really knows.... Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for the info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. > > My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. > > M > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: >> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Hi Sheila... >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... >> that is a lot of cats to look after >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> wrote: >> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 >>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >>> I took another >>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too >>> :). >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>> >>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>>> first FELV cat. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore >>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>> >>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>>> anything. >>>> >>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>>> cats >>>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>> >>>>> Amani >>>>> >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>> >>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>> great. >>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >>>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>> >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>> >>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>> again >>>> not getting group mail.... >>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>>> as we >>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >>>> enjoy >>>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >>>> experience >>>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >>>> 7.5 mg >>>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso >>>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I >>>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not >>>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty >>>> well controlled.... >>>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could >>>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc >>>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg >>>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ >>>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>>> have anti tumor >>>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>>> which I h >>>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his >>>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>>> are >>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>> rg >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>> rg >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>> rg >>>> >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>> scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 >>> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >>> >>> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>> in..... >>> Message-ID: >>> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >>> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >>> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >>> Of Pam Doore >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >>> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up >>> adopting her too :). >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>> wrote: >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>> first FELV cat. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >>> Of Pam Doore >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>> wrote: >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>> every >>> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >>> Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>> anything. >>> >>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>> again not getting group mail.... >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >>>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >>>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >>>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >>>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID >>>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >>>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID >>>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>> which I h >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >>> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>> scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>> g >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 >>> *************************************** >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlgegg at windstream.net Mon Jul 24 11:56:35 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 11:56:35 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> Message-ID: <20170724125635.AT43O.6066.root@pamxwww06-z01> I have mixed positive and negative cats for years and no negatives have contracted the disease. They share beds (mine) bowls and boxes. At first when the negatives were young, I had them vacinnated, now I do not they are all at least 13 years old. ---- Marlene Snowman wrote: > I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. > > My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. > > M > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > > > I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > > > Hi Sheila... > > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > > that is a lot of cats to look after > > and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > > > > Bob > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > wrote: > > > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) > >> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 > >> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >> Message-ID: > >> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> > >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I > >> took another > >> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too > >> :). > >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >> > >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > >>> first FELV cat. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On > >>> Behalf > >>> Of *Pam Doore > >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > >>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > >>> > >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >>> > >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork > >>> every 6 > >>> months and I thought it was odd too. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >>> Of > >>> dlgegg at windstream.net > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > >>> anything. > >>> > >>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in > >>>> cats > >>> (and being called into question in humans too). > >>>> > >>>> Amani > >>>> > >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>> Behalf > >>>> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back > >>>> great. > >>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 > >>> years > >>> old, I hope he is around a long time. > >>>> > >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>> Behalf > >>>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once > >>>> again > >>> not getting group mail.... > >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? > >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( > >>>> as we > >>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just > >>> enjoy > >>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have > >>> experience > >>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above > >>> 7.5 mg > >>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that > >>> I > >>> would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel > >>> they are > >>> killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have > >>> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well > >>> controlled.... > >>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut > >>> down > >>> on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if > >>> pain is > >>> up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered > >>> via > >>> syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting > >>> substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor > >>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > >>> which I h > >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every > >>> time > >>> I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral > >>> cavity I > >>> want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) > >>>> die > >>>> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are > >>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left > >>> him > >>> with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his > >>> range > >>> and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a > >>> straight > >>> line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess > >>> that's > >>> part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they > >>> have to > >>> and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps > >>> I'd > >>> like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm > >>> a > >>> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have > >>> to > >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk > >>> Mittens > >>> running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask > >>> you!!!!)... > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 > >> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> > >> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > >> in..... > >> Message-ID: > >> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> > >> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the > >> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if > >> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan > >> is up to 28 cats. Insane. > >> > >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >> Of Pam Doore > >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM > >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >> > >> > >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I > >> took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up > >> adopting her too :). > >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > >> wrote: > >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > >> first FELV cat. > >> > >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >> Of Pam Doore > >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >> > >> > >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > >> wrote: > >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every > >> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >> Of dlgegg at windstream.net > >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >> > >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > >> anything. > >> > >> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: > >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in > >>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). > >>> > >>> Amani > >>> > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >>> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back > >>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is > >>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. > >>> > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> > >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once > >>> again not getting group mail.... > >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? > >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as > >>> we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll > >>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you > >>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered > >>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster > >>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions > >>> ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him > >>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any > >>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just > >>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down > >>> on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if > >>> pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD > >>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( > >>> interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have > >>> anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > >> which I h > >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every > >> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral > >> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > >>> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are > >>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left > >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding > >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything > >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to > >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of > >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without > >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less > >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more > >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to > >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk > >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I > >>> ask you!!!!)... > >>> > >>> Bob > >>> > >>> Bob > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Subject: Digest Footer > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 > >> *************************************** > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From dlgegg at windstream.net Mon Jul 24 11:59:48 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 11:59:48 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170724125948.KUAKQ.6077.root@pamxwww06-z01> I get a lot of drop offs too. People seem to think that left in a farming area, they can fend for themselves, even the de clawed ones. ---- "Armstrong-Brown wrote: > No one helps me Bob. I started a 2nd job at an animal hospital so I can get the discount on all the cats. It's still very expensive. No fosters, they stray in to the farm and people drop off sickly animals and all the humane society would say is that if I turned the cats in to them, they would be put down. So until I can't afford to eat, I just get them spayed, neutered and healthy again and I just keep them. 14 are indoors. The sickly and sweet ones I always bring in . Glad I have a big house. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Hi Sheila... > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > that is a lot of cats to look after > and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > > Bob > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) > > 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 > > From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > > kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I > > took another > > FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too > > :). > > On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > > Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > > > >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > >> first FELV cat. > >> > >> > >> > >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On > >> Behalf > >> Of *Pam Doore > >> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > >> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >> > >> > >> > >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > >> > >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >> > >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork > >> every 6 > >> months and I thought it was odd too. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >> Of > >> dlgegg at windstream.net > >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >> > >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > >> anything. > >> > >> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in > >>> cats > >> (and being called into question in humans too). > >>> > >>> Amani > >>> > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>> Behalf > >>> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back > >>> great. > >> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 > >> years > >> old, I hope he is around a long time. > >>> > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>> Behalf > >>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once > >>> again > >> not getting group mail.... > >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? > >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( > >>> as we > >> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just > >> enjoy > >> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have > >> experience > >> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above > >> 7.5 mg > >> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that > >> I > >> would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel > >> they are > >> killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have > >> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well > >> controlled.... > >> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut > >> down > >> on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if > >> pain is > >> up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered > >> via > >> syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting > >> substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor > >> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > >> which I h > >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every > >> time > >> I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral > >> cavity I > >> want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) > >>> die > >>> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are > >> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > >> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left > >> him > >> with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his > >> range > >> and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a > >> straight > >> line but the spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess > >> that's > >> part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they > >> have to > >> and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps > >> I'd > >> like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm > >> a > >> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have > >> to > >> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk > >> Mittens > >> running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask > >> you!!!!)... > >>> > >>> Bob > >>> > >>> Bob > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 > > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > > in..... > > Message-ID: > > <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the > > house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if > > him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan > > is up to 28 cats. Insane. > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of Pam Doore > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > > > I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > > kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I > > took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up > > adopting her too :). > > On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > > wrote: > > No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > > first FELV cat. > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of Pam Doore > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > > > Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > > On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > > wrote: > > It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every > > 6 months and I thought it was odd too. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > > Of dlgegg at windstream.net > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > > > > I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > > i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > > anything. > > > > ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: > >> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in > >> cats (and being called into question in humans too). > >> > >> Amani > >> > >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > >> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > >> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >> > >> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back > >> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is > >> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. > >> > >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >> > >> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once > >> again not getting group mail.... > >> Has there been activity I've missed?? > >> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as > >> we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll > >> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you > >> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered > >> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster > >> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their directions > >> ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him > >> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any > >> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just > >> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut down > >> on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if > >> pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD > >> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( > >> interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to have > >> anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > > which I h > > ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every > > time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral > > cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > >> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) die > >> don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are > >> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > >> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left > >> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding > >> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything > >> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to > >> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of > >> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without > >> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less > >> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more > >> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to > >> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk > >> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I > >> ask you!!!!)... > >> > >> Bob > >> > >> Bob > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 > > *************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From dlgegg at windstream.net Mon Jul 24 12:15:35 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 12:15:35 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: <14070569.13183874.1500912848812.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20170724131535.A89NO.6143.root@pamxwww06-z01> I am lucky, found a vet who goes along with me especially re: felv treatment. ---- Sandy wrote: > > It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school and unless they seek to know more and better info continue with the same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I guess it's like each one has to do for our own health care - be informed and take charge. And, it's not easy > > Sandy > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marlene Snowman" > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more chances. Who really knows.... > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > > > So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for the info > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman > > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > > > I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. > > > > My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. > > > > M > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > >> > >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > >> > >> Hi Sheila... > >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > >> that is a lot of cats to look after > >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > >> > >> Bob > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>> > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >>> g > >>> > >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > >>> > >>> > >>> Today's Topics: > >>> > >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) > >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> - > >>> > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 > >>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> Message-ID: > >>> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >>> > >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus > >>> I took another > >>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too > >>> :). > >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >>> > >>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > >>>> first FELV cat. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On > >>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore > >>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > >>>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > >>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork > >>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net > >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > >>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > >>>> anything. > >>>> > >>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > >>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in > >>>>> cats > >>>> (and being called into question in humans too). > >>>>> > >>>>> Amani > >>>>> > >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > >>>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > >>>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>>> > >>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back > >>>>> great. > >>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 > >>>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. > >>>>> > >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > >>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>>> > >>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once > >>>>> again > >>>> not getting group mail.... > >>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? > >>>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( > >>>>> as we > >>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just > >>>> enjoy > >>>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have > >>>> experience > >>>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above > >>>> 7.5 mg > >>>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso > >>>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I > >>>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not > >>>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty > >>>> well controlled.... > >>>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could > >>>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc > >>>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg > >>>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ > >>>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to > >>>> have anti tumor > >>>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > >>>> which I h > >>>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every > >>>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his > >>>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > >>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) > >>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies > >>>>> are > >>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left > >>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding > >>>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything > >>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to > >>>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of > >>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without > >>>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less > >>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more > >>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to > >>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk > >>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice > >>>> I ask you!!!!)... > >>>>> > >>>>> Bob > >>>>> > >>>>> Bob > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> > >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > >>>> rg > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> > >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > >>>> rg > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> > >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > >>>> rg > >>>> > >>>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > >>> scrubbed... > >>> URL: > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Message: 2 > >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 > >>> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>> > >>> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking > >>> in..... > >>> Message-ID: > >>> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >>> > >>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the > >>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if > >>> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan > >>> is up to 28 cats. Insane. > >>> > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >>> Of Pam Doore > >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM > >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> > >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus > >>> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up > >>> adopting her too :). > >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > >>> wrote: > >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > >>> first FELV cat. > >>> > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >>> Of Pam Doore > >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> > >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > >>> wrote: > >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork > >>> every > >>> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > >>> Of dlgegg at windstream.net > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard > >>> anything. > >>> > >>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: > >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in > >>>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). > >>>> > >>>> Amani > >>>> > >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back > >>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is > >>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. > >>>> > >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> > >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once > >>>> again not getting group mail.... > >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? > >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( > >>>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll > >>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you > >>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered > >>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster > >>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their > >>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him > >>>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any > >>>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just > >>>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut > >>>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID > >>>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD > >>>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID > >>>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to > >>>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > >>> which I h > >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every > >>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral > >>> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) > >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies > >>>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left > >>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding > >>>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything > >>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to > >>>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of > >>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without > >>>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less > >>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more > >>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to > >>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk > >>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice > >>>> I ask you!!!!)... > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >>> g > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >>> g > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >>> g > >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > >>> scrubbed... > >>> URL: > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Subject: Digest Footer > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > >>> g > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 > >>> *************************************** > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Mon Jul 24 12:20:07 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 17:20:07 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: <20170724131535.A89NO.6143.root@pamxwww06-z01> References: <14070569.13183874.1500912848812.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <20170724131535.A89NO.6143.root@pamxwww06-z01> Message-ID: <4a60bf6c37104286b9ee31f25771622b@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> My 2nd job at the vet gives me a break on all the medicines and neutered and if we find kittens, he will take them and we adopt them out. it's a full time job with all these animals. My husband takes care of them when I work my long days -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 1:16 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. I am lucky, found a vet who goes along with me especially re: felv treatment. ---- Sandy wrote: > > It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet > seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school > and unless they seek to know more and better info continue with the > same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I > guess it's like each one has to do for our own health care - be > informed and take charge. And, it's not easy > > Sandy > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marlene Snowman" > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more chances. Who really knows.... > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > > > So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting > > it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV > > separated. Thanks for the info > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > > Behalf Of Marlene Snowman > > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM > > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > > > I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. > > > > My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. > > > > M > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > >> > >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does > >> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about > >> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with > >> the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats > >> and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv > >> has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't > >> think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > >> > >> Hi Sheila... > >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > >> that is a lot of cats to look after and the expense could get > >> rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > >> > >> Bob > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, > >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>> > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia > >>> .or > >>> g > >>> > >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > >>> specific than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > >>> > >>> > >>> Today's Topics: > >>> > >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) 2. Re: Checking in..... > >>> (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> --- > >>> - > >>> > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 > >>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> Message-ID: > >>> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >>> > >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. > >>> Plus I took another > >>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her > >>> FeLv+ too > >>> :). > >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >>> > >>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > >>>> first FELV cat. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On > >>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore > >>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > >>>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < > >>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork > >>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net > >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > >>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not > >>>> heard anything. > >>>> > >>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: > >>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical > >>>>> in cats > >>>> (and being called into question in humans too). > >>>>> > >>>>> Amani > >>>>> > >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > >>>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > >>>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>>> > >>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back > >>>>> great. > >>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 > >>>> 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. > >>>>> > >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > >>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>>> > >>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am > >>>>> once again > >>>> not getting group mail.... > >>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? > >>>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but > >>>>> ( as we > >>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll > >>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you > >>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered > >>>> chronically ( say above > >>>> 7.5 mg > >>>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso > >>>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to > >>>> unless I feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His > >>>> Tumor does not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain > >>>> appears to be pretty well controlled.... > >>>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could > >>>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 > >>>> cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( > >>>> 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly > >>>> Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... > >>>> supposed to have anti tumor > >>>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > >>>> which I h > >>>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder > >>>> every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor > >>>> invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > >>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( > >>>>> clincally) die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope > >>>>> everyones buddies are > >>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has > >>>> left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on > >>>> expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in > >>>> anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is > >>>> enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a > >>>> fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it > >>>> without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like > >>>> them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a > >>>> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ > >>>> have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's > >>>> that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's > >>>> the Justice I ask you!!!!)... > >>>>> > >>>>> Bob > >>>>> > >>>>> Bob > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> > >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemi > >>>> a.o > >>>> rg > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> > >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemi > >>>> a.o > >>>> rg > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>>> > >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemi > >>>> a.o > >>>> rg > >>>> > >>>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > >>> scrubbed... > >>> URL: > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Message: 2 > >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 > >>> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>> > >>> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] > >>> Checking in..... > >>> Message-ID: > >>> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >>> > >>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the > >>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure > >>> if him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat > >>> clan is up to 28 cats. Insane. > >>> > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>> Behalf Of Pam Doore > >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM > >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> > >>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her > >>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. > >>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably > >>> end up adopting her too :). > >>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > >>> wrote: > >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my > >>> first FELV cat. > >>> > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>> Behalf Of Pam Doore > >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM > >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> > >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? > >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > >>> wrote: > >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork > >>> every > >>> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM > >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>> > >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. > >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not > >>> heard anything. > >>> > >>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: > >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical > >>>> in cats (and being called into question in humans too). > >>>> > >>>> Amani > >>>> > >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium > >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM > >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' > >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back > >>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is > >>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. > >>>> > >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On > >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM > >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> > >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... > >>>> > >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once > >>>> again not getting group mail.... > >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? > >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but > >>>> ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so > >>>> I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of > >>>> you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered > >>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster > >>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their > >>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing > >>>> him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have > >>>> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well > >>>> controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the > >>>> most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's > >>>> on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for > >>>> pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved > >>>> in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears > >>>> closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! > >>> which I h > >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder > >>> every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading > >>> his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... > >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) > >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones > >>>> buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... > >>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has > >>>> left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on > >>>> expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in > >>>> anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is > >>>> enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a > >>>> fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it > >>>> without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like > >>>> them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a > >>>> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ > >>>> have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's > >>>> that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's > >>>> the Justice I ask you!!!!)... > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia > >>> .or > >>> g > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia > >>> .or > >>> g > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia > >>> .or > >>> g > >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > >>> scrubbed... > >>> URL: > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Subject: Digest Footer > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia > >>> .or > >>> g > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 > >>> *************************************** > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. > >> org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. > >> org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > > rg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o > > rg > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From aoakley at oakleylegal.com Mon Jul 24 13:36:51 2017 From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:36:51 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> Message-ID: Sheila I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I have looked into this online, and from what I am reading, FeLV cats don't really pass the virus on to other adults all that readily, and the main risk is to young kittens. Even then, the virus is not a hardy one and doesn't survive long in a cat's environment. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-24-17 9:04 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for the info -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. M Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Hi Sheila... > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > that is a lot of cats to look after > and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > > Bob > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 >> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another >> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too >> :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >> >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>> first FELV cat. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>> >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>> anything. >>> >>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>> cats >>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>> great. >>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>> again >>> not getting group mail.... >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>> as we >>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >>> enjoy >>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >>> experience >>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >>> 7.5 mg >>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso >>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I >>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not >>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty >>> well controlled.... >>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could >>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc >>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg >>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ >>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor >>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>> which I h >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his >>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>> are >>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 >> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >> >> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >> in..... >> Message-ID: >> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up >> adopting her too :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >> first FELV cat. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >> every >> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of dlgegg at windstream.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >> anything. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>> again not getting group mail.... >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID >>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID >>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >> which I h >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 >> *************************************** >> > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Mon Jul 24 13:40:24 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:40:24 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> Message-ID: Skylar seems to want to wrestle last time I let him out and I was afraid so I let him run and I run behind him. I guess I could keep doing that and keep him away from the FIV one. I feel so bad for him. He is alone and he hates the dog so he has no one but me. Thanks for telling me, I will try different things. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:37 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Sheila I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I have looked into this online, and from what I am reading, FeLV cats don't really pass the virus on to other adults all that readily, and the main risk is to young kittens. Even then, the virus is not a hardy one and doesn't survive long in a cat's environment. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-24-17 9:04 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for the info -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. M Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Hi Sheila... > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > that is a lot of cats to look after > and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > > Bob > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 >> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another >> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too >> :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >> >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>> first FELV cat. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>> >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>> anything. >>> >>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>> cats >>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>> great. >>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>> again >>> not getting group mail.... >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>> as we >>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >>> enjoy >>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >>> experience >>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >>> 7.5 mg >>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso >>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I >>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not >>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty >>> well controlled.... >>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could >>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc >>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg >>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ >>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor >>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>> which I h >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his >>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>> are >>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 >> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >> >> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >> in..... >> Message-ID: >> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up >> adopting her too :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >> first FELV cat. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >> every >> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of dlgegg at windstream.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >> anything. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>> again not getting group mail.... >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID >>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID >>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >> which I h >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 >> *************************************** >> > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From aoakley at oakleylegal.com Mon Jul 24 13:45:28 2017 From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:45:28 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> Message-ID: We were sure all sorts of bad things were going to happen after we found out that Zander was FeLV+. Not only didn't any of the others contract it, but he was very close to several of them and would cuddle and mutually groom each other. At first, this made me very anxious and I would separate them, but again, as they had been doing this for months BEFORE the FeLV diagnosis, I figured if they were going to get the virus, they would have gotten it by then. Nothing happened. I had found one kitten, during the time we had Zander, so we kept her isolated in a bathroom until we could find a home for her. She was and still is just fine. We didn't use any particularly clever method to keep them apart - the kitten just stayed in my husband's bathroom until I lined up a home. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-24-17 2:40 PM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Skylar seems to want to wrestle last time I let him out and I was afraid so I let him run and I run behind him. I guess I could keep doing that and keep him away from the FIV one. I feel so bad for him. He is alone and he hates the dog so he has no one but me. Thanks for telling me, I will try different things. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:37 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Sheila I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I have looked into this online, and from what I am reading, FeLV cats don't really pass the virus on to other adults all that readily, and the main risk is to young kittens. Even then, the virus is not a hardy one and doesn't survive long in a cat's environment. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-24-17 9:04 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for the info -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. M Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Hi Sheila... > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > that is a lot of cats to look after > and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > > Bob > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 >> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another >> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too >> :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >> >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>> first FELV cat. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>> >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>> anything. >>> >>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>> cats >>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>> great. >>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>> again >>> not getting group mail.... >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>> as we >>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >>> enjoy >>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >>> experience >>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >>> 7.5 mg >>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso >>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I >>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not >>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty >>> well controlled.... >>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could >>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc >>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg >>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ >>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor >>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>> which I h >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his >>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>> are >>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 >> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >> >> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >> in..... >> Message-ID: >> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up >> adopting her too :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >> first FELV cat. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >> every >> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of dlgegg at windstream.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >> anything. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>> again not getting group mail.... >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID >>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID >>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >> which I h >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 >> *************************************** >> > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Mon Jul 24 13:47:11 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:47:11 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> Message-ID: <75e930b9cbf5404cb188d23df7eee889@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> And The IFA test was also positive? Skylar tested positive since he had him which is almost 2 years. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:45 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. We were sure all sorts of bad things were going to happen after we found out that Zander was FeLV+. Not only didn't any of the others contract it, but he was very close to several of them and would cuddle and mutually groom each other. At first, this made me very anxious and I would separate them, but again, as they had been doing this for months BEFORE the FeLV diagnosis, I figured if they were going to get the virus, they would have gotten it by then. Nothing happened. I had found one kitten, during the time we had Zander, so we kept her isolated in a bathroom until we could find a home for her. She was and still is just fine. We didn't use any particularly clever method to keep them apart - the kitten just stayed in my husband's bathroom until I lined up a home. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-24-17 2:40 PM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Skylar seems to want to wrestle last time I let him out and I was afraid so I let him run and I run behind him. I guess I could keep doing that and keep him away from the FIV one. I feel so bad for him. He is alone and he hates the dog so he has no one but me. Thanks for telling me, I will try different things. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:37 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Sheila I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I have looked into this online, and from what I am reading, FeLV cats don't really pass the virus on to other adults all that readily, and the main risk is to young kittens. Even then, the virus is not a hardy one and doesn't survive long in a cat's environment. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-24-17 9:04 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for the info -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. M Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Hi Sheila... > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > that is a lot of cats to look after > and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > > Bob > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 >> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another >> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too >> :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >> >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>> first FELV cat. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>> >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>> anything. >>> >>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>> cats >>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>> great. >>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>> again >>> not getting group mail.... >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>> as we >>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >>> enjoy >>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >>> experience >>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >>> 7.5 mg >>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso >>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I >>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not >>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty >>> well controlled.... >>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could >>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc >>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg >>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ >>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor >>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>> which I h >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his >>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>> are >>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 >> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >> >> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >> in..... >> Message-ID: >> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up >> adopting her too :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >> first FELV cat. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >> every >> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of dlgegg at windstream.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >> anything. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>> again not getting group mail.... >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID >>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID >>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >> which I h >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 >> *************************************** >> > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From aoakley at oakleylegal.com Mon Jul 24 13:50:59 2017 From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:50:59 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: <75e930b9cbf5404cb188d23df7eee889@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> <75e930b9cbf5404cb188d23df7eee889@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: Everything we tested was positive, and Zander most certainly had FeLV. Interestingly enough, when I was able to successfully treat him with the Winstrol/Doxy/Prednisone protocol, later vets started musing that perhaps he never had FeLV. After all, they certainly couldn't admit that a drug they had discounted due to its supposed propensity to damage the liver, was an effective treatment for FeLV. When Zander began responding to the treatment, against all expectations, some of the vets preferred to question the diagnosis. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-24-17 2:47 PM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. And The IFA test was also positive? Skylar tested positive since he had him which is almost 2 years. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:45 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. We were sure all sorts of bad things were going to happen after we found out that Zander was FeLV+. Not only didn't any of the others contract it, but he was very close to several of them and would cuddle and mutually groom each other. At first, this made me very anxious and I would separate them, but again, as they had been doing this for months BEFORE the FeLV diagnosis, I figured if they were going to get the virus, they would have gotten it by then. Nothing happened. I had found one kitten, during the time we had Zander, so we kept her isolated in a bathroom until we could find a home for her. She was and still is just fine. We didn't use any particularly clever method to keep them apart - the kitten just stayed in my husband's bathroom until I lined up a home. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-24-17 2:40 PM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Skylar seems to want to wrestle last time I let him out and I was afraid so I let him run and I run behind him. I guess I could keep doing that and keep him away from the FIV one. I feel so bad for him. He is alone and he hates the dog so he has no one but me. Thanks for telling me, I will try different things. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:37 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Sheila I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I have looked into this online, and from what I am reading, FeLV cats don't really pass the virus on to other adults all that readily, and the main risk is to young kittens. Even then, the virus is not a hardy one and doesn't survive long in a cat's environment. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-24-17 9:04 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for the info -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. M Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Hi Sheila... > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > that is a lot of cats to look after > and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > > Bob > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 >> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another >> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too >> :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >> >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>> first FELV cat. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>> >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>> anything. >>> >>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>> cats >>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>> great. >>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>> again >>> not getting group mail.... >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>> as we >>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >>> enjoy >>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >>> experience >>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >>> 7.5 mg >>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso >>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I >>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not >>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty >>> well controlled.... >>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could >>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc >>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg >>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ >>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor >>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>> which I h >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his >>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>> are >>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 >> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >> >> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >> in..... >> Message-ID: >> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up >> adopting her too :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >> first FELV cat. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >> every >> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of dlgegg at windstream.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >> anything. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>> again not getting group mail.... >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID >>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID >>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >> which I h >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 >> *************************************** >> > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov Mon Jul 24 13:59:00 2017 From: Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:59:00 +0000 Subject: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. In-Reply-To: References: <76c134b2.be27c.15d66b4c3dc.Webtop.38@optonline.net> <980DFFD5-65BF-4C03-A18E-E2A086B58154@icloud.com> <75e930b9cbf5404cb188d23df7eee889@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> Message-ID: <5ca84a18183d490aacd8390106fced46@NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> I still can't believe Skylar is sick, he was sick when I found him outside but since he has been indoors and still positive but healthy -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:51 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Everything we tested was positive, and Zander most certainly had FeLV. Interestingly enough, when I was able to successfully treat him with the Winstrol/Doxy/Prednisone protocol, later vets started musing that perhaps he never had FeLV. After all, they certainly couldn't admit that a drug they had discounted due to its supposed propensity to damage the liver, was an effective treatment for FeLV. When Zander began responding to the treatment, against all expectations, some of the vets preferred to question the diagnosis. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-24-17 2:47 PM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. And The IFA test was also positive? Skylar tested positive since he had him which is almost 2 years. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:45 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. We were sure all sorts of bad things were going to happen after we found out that Zander was FeLV+. Not only didn't any of the others contract it, but he was very close to several of them and would cuddle and mutually groom each other. At first, this made me very anxious and I would separate them, but again, as they had been doing this for months BEFORE the FeLV diagnosis, I figured if they were going to get the virus, they would have gotten it by then. Nothing happened. I had found one kitten, during the time we had Zander, so we kept her isolated in a bathroom until we could find a home for her. She was and still is just fine. We didn't use any particularly clever method to keep them apart - the kitten just stayed in my husband's bathroom until I lined up a home. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-24-17 2:40 PM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Skylar seems to want to wrestle last time I let him out and I was afraid so I let him run and I run behind him. I guess I could keep doing that and keep him away from the FIV one. I feel so bad for him. He is alone and he hates the dog so he has no one but me. Thanks for telling me, I will try different things. -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:37 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. Sheila I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I have looked into this online, and from what I am reading, FeLV cats don't really pass the virus on to other adults all that readily, and the main risk is to young kittens. Even then, the virus is not a hardy one and doesn't survive long in a cat's environment. Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-24-17 9:04 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for the info -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset. My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. M Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium wrote: > > I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Hi Sheila... > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... > that is a lot of cats to look after > and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? > > Bob > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 >> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another >> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too >> :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >> >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>> first FELV cat. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>> >>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >>> anything. >>> >>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>>> cats >>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>> great. >>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 >>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>> >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>> >>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>> again >>> not getting group mail.... >>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>>> as we >>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just >>> enjoy >>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have >>> experience >>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above >>> 7.5 mg >>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso >>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I >>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not >>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty >>> well controlled.... >>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could >>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc >>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg >>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ >>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor >>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>> which I h >>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his >>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>>> are >>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>> rg >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 >> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >> >> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >> in..... >> Message-ID: >> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus >> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up >> adopting her too :). >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >> first FELV cat. >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Pam Doore >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >> wrote: >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >> every >> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of dlgegg at windstream.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >> >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard >> anything. >> >> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in >>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM >>> To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>> >>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>> again not getting group mail.... >>> Has there been activity I've missed?? >>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( >>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him >>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any >>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just >>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut >>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID >>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD >>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID >>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >> which I h >> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every >> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral >> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies >>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... >>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left >>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding >>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything >>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to >>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of >>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without >>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less >>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more >>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to >>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk >>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice >>> I ask you!!!!)... >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 5 >> *************************************** >> > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From bchapel at optonline.net Mon Jul 24 16:27:07 2017 From: bchapel at optonline.net (ROBERT CHAPEL) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 17:27:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Felvtalk] Surgery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58a7f560.c2b65.15d767f1c57.Webtop.48@optonline.net> Hello Everyone... Thank you so much for your concerns about " my " surgery but it is an unfortunate result of the structure of the mailings that this mistake was made....??? I am not having heart surgery : )????? Believe it is our member whose email is dlegg ( wish people would put their actual names on their postings) I forget in between time whose name is associated with which address.....???? Seems when I've made and inquiry about activity on the group it engenders a rash of new mailings and confusion reins? : )?? Glad, however, to see activity and that we are all still here....? I always learn something new when folks post their thoughts and practices on the group....?? I am humbled by so many of you and your commitment to your Kitties... without people such as you the world would be a much more bleak place for the unwanted animals of the world.....? I get caught up in " if only's " even at my age and I think so often " if only" everyone would take in just? 1 animal how much of an improvement that would make to the lives of animals everywhere.....? It is such a shame that not everyone feels toward animals as we do... they can't experience the joy and wonder that an animal brings to ones life or the simple pleasure of having a cat sit on your chest purring while you watch TV ( all 14 lbs of Gilbert and his drool( I _ could_ do without the drool!!)... somehow calm me when I am laying on the couch just relaxing..... and Bless you Sheila for your kindness and caring.??? If you know anyone who could help you to become your own non-profit that could, potentially, reduce some of the burden of expense...?? I KNOW you are beyond busy already but just wanted to mention it if you had not though about it already...? It's not a walk in the park to put in place but has some distinct advantages... Bob C. On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:14 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 28 Cats.. (Gloria) > 2. Re: 28 Cats.. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > 3. Re: 28 Cats.. (Sandy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:42:51 -0700 > From: Gloria To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to > others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off > viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. > I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we > replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement > door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the > other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen > guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as > a drum-especially when he wants attention! > > I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 > years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) > > That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and > entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have > inside! > > ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a > variety of brands- and fresh water > ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by > law > ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if > life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on > retirement funds ?Pray: a lot > Will be praying for Robert too! > > > > > -g ?? > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> wrote: >> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think >> he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Hi Sheila... >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or >> expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >> fosters??? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> wrote: >> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:56:06 +0000 > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > Message-ID: > <6194923b48b64835bf76a6d451b92383 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have the same set up, a door with plexi so he can see the other > animals. He has a bed and tv and 2 big rooms to run around, I just > feel bad that he is alone most of the time until I get home and we > watch TV together for acouple. I am scared of that vaccines b/c of > the dangers I hear about. > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Gloria > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:43 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to > others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off > viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. > I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we > replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement > door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the > other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen > guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as > a drum-especially when he wants attention! > > I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 > years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) > > That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and > entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have > inside! > > ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a > variety of brands- and fresh water > ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by > law > ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if > life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on > retirement funds ?Pray: a lot > Will be praying for Robert too! > > > > > -g ?? > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> wrote: >> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think >> he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Hi Sheila... >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or >> expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >> fosters??? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> wrote: >> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:14:08 +0000 (UTC) > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > Message-ID: > <14070569.13183874.1500912848812.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet > seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school > and unless they seek to know more and better info continue with the > same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I > guess it's like each one has to do for our own health care - be > informed and take charge. And, it's not easy > Sandy ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marlene Snowman" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, > July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 > percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune > system has more chances. Who really knows.... > Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> wrote: >> So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it >> for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV >> separated. Thanks for the info >> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene >> Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. >> The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and >> remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain >> separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that >> are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or >> groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart >> to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the >> illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for >> them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful >> that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not >> sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at >> the onset. >> My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with >> the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. >> M >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> wrote: >>> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >>> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >>> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >>> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >>> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >>> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he >>> can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT >>> CHAPEL Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM To: >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >>> Hi Sheila... Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( >>> or expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after and the expense >>> could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? >>> Bob >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: >>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) 2. Re: Checking in..... >>>> (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>>> Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 From: Pam Doore >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... Message-ID: >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. >>>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end >>>> up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, >>>> Sheila DDS Timonium" < Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>>>> first FELV cat. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM *To:* >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not >>>>> heard anything. >>>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical >>>>>> in cats >>>>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>>> >>>>>> Amani >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 >>>>>> 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: >>>>>> [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>>> great. >>>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 >>>>> 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>>> in..... >>>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>>> again >>>>> not getting group mail.... >>>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) >>>>>> is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we >>>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing >>>>> him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have >>>>> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >>>>> controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the >>>>> most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on >>>>> Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, >>>>> prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in >>>>> milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears >>>>> closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other >>>>> " alternative " medications ! which I h ave suspended only because >>>>> the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him >>>>> something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to >>>>> keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones >>>>>> buddies are >>>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can >>>>> do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which >>>>> has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent >>>>> on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in >>>>> anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is >>>>> enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a >>>>> fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it >>>>> without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like >>>>> them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a >>>>> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ >>>>> have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that >>>>> jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the >>>>> Justice I ask you!!!!)... >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob >>>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>> scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ >>>> Message: 2 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 From: >>>> "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >>>> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] >>>> Checking in..... Message-ID: >>>> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >>>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >>>> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >>>> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... >>>> >>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. >>>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end >>>> up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, >>>> Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: No, he said it was no big deal at >>>> all. I just worry. This is my first FELV cat. >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... >>>> >>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? On >>>> Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>>> wrote: It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get >>>> bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>> dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... >>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not >>>> heard anything. >>>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical >>>>> in cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>> Amani >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 >>>>> 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] >>>>> Checking in..... >>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>> again not getting group mail.... Has there been activity I've >>>>> missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the >>>>> moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any >>>>> minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering >>>>> if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone >>>>> administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed >>>>> to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow >>>>> their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are >>>>> killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to >>>>> have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >>>>> controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the >>>>> most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on >>>>> Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, >>>>> prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in >>>>> milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears >>>>> closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other >>>>> " alternative " medications ! >>>> which I h ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody >>>> murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor >>>> invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a >>>> minimum.... >>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones >>>>> buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV >>>>> Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain >>>>> injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's >>>>> been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this >>>>> AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit >>>>> in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why >>>>> I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to >>>>> and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps >>>>> I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why >>>>> ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why >>>>> did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and >>>>> there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and >>>>> happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... >>>>> Bob >>>>> Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g >>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g >>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>> scrubbed... 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Thank you so much for your concerns about " my " surgery but it is an unfortunate result of the structure of the mailings that this mistake was made....??? I am not having heart surgery : )????? Believe it is our member whose email is dlegg ( wish people would put their actual names on their postings) I forget in between time whose name is associated with which address.....???? Seems when I've made and inquiry about activity on the group it engenders a rash of new mailings and confusion reins? : )?? Glad, however, to see activity and that we are all still here....? I always learn something new when folks post their thoughts and practices on the group....?? I am humbled by so many of you and your commitment to your Kitties... without people such as you the world would be a much more bleak place for the unwanted animals of the world.....? I get caught up in " if only's " even at my age and I think so often " if only" everyone would take in just? 1 animal how much of an improvement that would make to the lives of animals everywhere.....? It is such a shame that not everyone feels toward animals as we do... they can't experience the joy and wonder that an animal brings to ones life or the simple pleasure of having a cat sit on your chest purring while you watch TV ( all 14 lbs of Gilbert and his drool( I _ could_ do without the drool!!)... somehow calm me when I am laying on the couch just relaxing..... and Bless you Sheila for your kindness and caring.??? If you know anyone who could help you to become your own non-profit that could, potentially, reduce some of the burden of expense...?? I KNOW you are beyond busy already but just wanted to mention it if you had not though about it already...? It's not a walk in the park to put in place but has some distinct advantages... Bob C. On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:14 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 28 Cats.. (Gloria) > 2. Re: 28 Cats.. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > 3. Re: 28 Cats.. (Sandy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:42:51 -0700 > From: Gloria To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to > others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off > viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. > I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we > replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement > door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the > other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen > guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as > a drum-especially when he wants attention! > > I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 > years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) > > That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and > entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have > inside! > > ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a > variety of brands- and fresh water > ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by > law > ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if > life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on > retirement funds ?Pray: a lot > Will be praying for Robert too! > > > > > -g ?? > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> wrote: >> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think >> he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Hi Sheila... >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or >> expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >> fosters??? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> wrote: >> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:56:06 +0000 > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > Message-ID: > <6194923b48b64835bf76a6d451b92383 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have the same set up, a door with plexi so he can see the other > animals. He has a bed and tv and 2 big rooms to run around, I just > feel bad that he is alone most of the time until I get home and we > watch TV together for acouple. I am scared of that vaccines b/c of > the dangers I hear about. > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Gloria > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:43 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to > others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off > viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. > I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we > replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement > door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the > other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen > guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as > a drum-especially when he wants attention! > > I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 > years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) > > That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and > entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have > inside! > > ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a > variety of brands- and fresh water > ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by > law > ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if > life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on > retirement funds ?Pray: a lot > Will be praying for Robert too! > > > > > -g ?? > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> wrote: >> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think >> he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Hi Sheila... >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or >> expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >> fosters??? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> wrote: >> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:14:08 +0000 (UTC) > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > Message-ID: > <14070569.13183874.1500912848812.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet > seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school > and unless they seek to know more and better info continue with the > same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I > guess it's like each one has to do for our own health care - be > informed and take charge. And, it's not easy > Sandy ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marlene Snowman" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, > July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 > percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune > system has more chances. Who really knows.... > Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> wrote: >> So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it >> for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV >> separated. Thanks for the info >> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene >> Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. >> The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and >> remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain >> separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that >> are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or >> groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart >> to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the >> illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for >> them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful >> that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not >> sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at >> the onset. >> My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with >> the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. >> M >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> wrote: >>> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >>> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >>> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >>> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >>> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >>> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he >>> can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT >>> CHAPEL Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM To: >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >>> Hi Sheila... Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( >>> or expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after and the expense >>> could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? >>> Bob >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: >>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) 2. Re: Checking in..... >>>> (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>>> Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 From: Pam Doore >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... Message-ID: >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. >>>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end >>>> up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, >>>> Sheila DDS Timonium" < Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>>>> first FELV cat. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM *To:* >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not >>>>> heard anything. >>>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical >>>>>> in cats >>>>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>>> >>>>>> Amani >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 >>>>>> 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: >>>>>> [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>>> great. >>>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 >>>>> 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>>> in..... >>>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>>> again >>>>> not getting group mail.... >>>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) >>>>>> is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we >>>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing >>>>> him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have >>>>> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >>>>> controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the >>>>> most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on >>>>> Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, >>>>> prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in >>>>> milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears >>>>> closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other >>>>> " alternative " medications ! which I h ave suspended only because >>>>> the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him >>>>> something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to >>>>> keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones >>>>>> buddies are >>>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can >>>>> do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which >>>>> has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent >>>>> on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in >>>>> anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is >>>>> enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a >>>>> fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it >>>>> without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like >>>>> them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a >>>>> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ >>>>> have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that >>>>> jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the >>>>> Justice I ask you!!!!)... >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob >>>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>> scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ >>>> Message: 2 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 From: >>>> "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >>>> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] >>>> Checking in..... Message-ID: >>>> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >>>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >>>> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >>>> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... >>>> >>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. >>>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end >>>> up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, >>>> Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: No, he said it was no big deal at >>>> all. I just worry. This is my first FELV cat. >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... >>>> >>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? On >>>> Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>>> wrote: It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get >>>> bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>> dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... >>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not >>>> heard anything. >>>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical >>>>> in cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>> Amani >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 >>>>> 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] >>>>> Checking in..... >>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>> again not getting group mail.... Has there been activity I've >>>>> missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the >>>>> moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any >>>>> minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering >>>>> if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone >>>>> administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed >>>>> to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow >>>>> their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are >>>>> killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to >>>>> have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >>>>> controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the >>>>> most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on >>>>> Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, >>>>> prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in >>>>> milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears >>>>> closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other >>>>> " alternative " medications ! >>>> which I h ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody >>>> murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor >>>> invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a >>>> minimum.... >>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones >>>>> buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV >>>>> Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain >>>>> injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's >>>>> been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this >>>>> AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit >>>>> in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why >>>>> I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to >>>>> and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps >>>>> I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why >>>>> ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why >>>>> did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and >>>>> there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and >>>>> happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... >>>>> Bob >>>>> Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g >>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g >>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>> scrubbed... 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I FORGOT TO PUT MY NAME IN THERE. DORLIS GROTE I am lucky that a member of my church is going to take care of my babies while I am in the hospital for the surgery. She is also taking me in and picking me up afterwards. Plus getting groceries and doing any needed laundry after i get home as I will be on limited activity for 2 months, can't even drive. This is one of those things we never think about until it happens and then we need help. Just glad I do not have 28 cats or even Rebecca might balk at caring for that many. ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > Hello Everyone... Thank you so much for your concerns about " my " surgery but it is an unfortunate result of the structure of the mailings that this mistake was made....??? I am not having heart surgery : )????? Believe it is our member whose email is dlegg ( wish people would put their actual names on their postings) I forget in between time whose name is associated with which address.....???? Seems when I've made and inquiry about activity on the group it engenders a rash of new mailings and confusion reins? : )?? Glad, however, to see activity and that we are all still here....? I always learn something new when folks post their thoughts and practices on the group....?? I am humbled by so many of you and your commitment to your Kitties... without people such as you the world would be a much more bleak place for the unwanted animals of the world.....? I get caught up in " if only's " even at my age and I think so often " if only" everyone would take in just? 1 animal how much of an improvement that would make to the lives of animals everywhere.....? It is such a shame that not everyone feels toward animals as we do... they can't experience the joy and wonder that an animal brings to ones life or the simple pleasure of having a cat sit on your chest purring while you watch TV ( all 14 lbs of Gilbert and his drool( I _ could_ do without the drool!!)... somehow calm me when I am laying on the couch just relaxing..... and Bless you Sheila for your kindness and caring.??? If you know anyone who could help you to become your own non-profit that could, potentially, reduce some of the burden of expense...?? I KNOW you are beyond busy already but just wanted to mention it if you had not though about it already...? It's not a walk in the park to put in place but has some distinct advantages... Bob C. On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:14 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 28 Cats.. (Gloria) > 2. Re: 28 Cats.. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > 3. Re: 28 Cats.. (Sandy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:42:51 -0700 > From: Gloria To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to > others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off > viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. > I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we > replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement > door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the > other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen > guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as > a drum-especially when he wants attention! > > I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 > years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) > > That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and > entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have > inside! > > ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a > variety of brands- and fresh water > ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by > law > ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if > life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on > retirement funds ?Pray: a lot > Will be praying for Robert too! > > > > > -g ?? > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> wrote: >> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think >> he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Hi Sheila... >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or >> expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >> fosters??? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> wrote: >> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:56:06 +0000 > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > Message-ID: > <6194923b48b64835bf76a6d451b92383 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have the same set up, a door with plexi so he can see the other > animals. He has a bed and tv and 2 big rooms to run around, I just > feel bad that he is alone most of the time until I get home and we > watch TV together for acouple. I am scared of that vaccines b/c of > the dangers I hear about. > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Gloria > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:43 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to > others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off > viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. > I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we > replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement > door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the > other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen > guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as > a drum-especially when he wants attention! > > I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 > years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) > > That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and > entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have > inside! > > ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a > variety of brands- and fresh water > ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by > law > ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if > life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on > retirement funds ?Pray: a lot > Will be praying for Robert too! > > > > > -g ?? > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> wrote: >> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think >> he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Hi Sheila... >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or >> expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >> fosters??? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> wrote: >> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:14:08 +0000 (UTC) > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > Message-ID: > <14070569.13183874.1500912848812.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet > seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school > and unless they seek to know more and better info continue with the > same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I > guess it's like each one has to do for our own health care - be > informed and take charge. And, it's not easy > Sandy ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marlene Snowman" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, > July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 > percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune > system has more chances. Who really knows.... > Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> wrote: >> So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it >> for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV >> separated. Thanks for the info >> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene >> Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. >> The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and >> remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain >> separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that >> are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or >> groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart >> to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the >> illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for >> them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful >> that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not >> sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at >> the onset. >> My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with >> the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. >> M >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> wrote: >>> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >>> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >>> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >>> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >>> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >>> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he >>> can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT >>> CHAPEL Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM To: >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >>> Hi Sheila... Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( >>> or expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after and the expense >>> could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? >>> Bob >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: >>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) 2. Re: Checking in..... >>>> (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>>> Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 From: Pam Doore >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... Message-ID: >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. >>>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end >>>> up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, >>>> Sheila DDS Timonium" < Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>>>> first FELV cat. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM *To:* >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not >>>>> heard anything. >>>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical >>>>>> in cats >>>>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>>> >>>>>> Amani >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 >>>>>> 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: >>>>>> [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>>> great. >>>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 >>>>> 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>>> in..... >>>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>>> again >>>>> not getting group mail.... >>>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) >>>>>> is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we >>>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing >>>>> him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have >>>>> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >>>>> controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the >>>>> most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on >>>>> Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, >>>>> prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in >>>>> milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears >>>>> closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other >>>>> " alternative " medications ! which I h ave suspended only because >>>>> the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him >>>>> something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to >>>>> keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones >>>>>> buddies are >>>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can >>>>> do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which >>>>> has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent >>>>> on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in >>>>> anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is >>>>> enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a >>>>> fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it >>>>> without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like >>>>> them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a >>>>> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ >>>>> have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that >>>>> jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the >>>>> Justice I ask you!!!!)... >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob >>>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>> scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ >>>> Message: 2 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 From: >>>> "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >>>> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] >>>> Checking in..... Message-ID: >>>> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >>>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >>>> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >>>> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... >>>> >>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. >>>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end >>>> up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, >>>> Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: No, he said it was no big deal at >>>> all. I just worry. This is my first FELV cat. >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... >>>> >>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? On >>>> Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>>> wrote: It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get >>>> bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>> dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... >>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not >>>> heard anything. >>>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical >>>>> in cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>> Amani >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 >>>>> 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] >>>>> Checking in..... >>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>> again not getting group mail.... Has there been activity I've >>>>> missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the >>>>> moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any >>>>> minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering >>>>> if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone >>>>> administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed >>>>> to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow >>>>> their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are >>>>> killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to >>>>> have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >>>>> controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the >>>>> most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on >>>>> Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, >>>>> prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in >>>>> milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears >>>>> closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other >>>>> " alternative " medications ! >>>> which I h ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody >>>> murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor >>>> invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a >>>> minimum.... >>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones >>>>> buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV >>>>> Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain >>>>> injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's >>>>> been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this >>>>> AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit >>>>> in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why >>>>> I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to >>>>> and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps >>>>> I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why >>>>> ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why >>>>> did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and >>>>> there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and >>>>> happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... >>>>> Bob >>>>> Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g >>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g >>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>> scrubbed... 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I have heard all kinds of excuses like it costs so much. If they did get their pets spayed/neutered they would not have the work involved in getting rid of them. When a new one shows up here, they get neutered or spayed within 2 weeks after I have found out that they do not belong to anyone. ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > Hello Everyone... Thank you so much for your concerns about " my " surgery but it is an unfortunate result of the structure of the mailings that this mistake was made....??? I am not having heart surgery : )????? Believe it is our member whose email is dlegg ( wish people would put their actual names on their postings) I forget in between time whose name is associated with which address.....???? Seems when I've made and inquiry about activity on the group it engenders a rash of new mailings and confusion reins? : )?? Glad, however, to see activity and that we are all still here....? I always learn something new when folks post their thoughts and practices on the group....?? I am humbled by so many of you and your commitment to your Kitties... without people such as you the world would be a much more bleak place for the unwanted animals of the world.....? I get caught up in " if only's " even at my age and I think so often " if only" everyone would take in just? 1 animal how much of an improvement that would make to the lives of animals everywhere.....? It is such a shame that not everyone feels toward animals as we do... they can't experience the joy and wonder that an animal brings to ones life or the simple pleasure of having a cat sit on your chest purring while you watch TV ( all 14 lbs of Gilbert and his drool( I _ could_ do without the drool!!)... somehow calm me when I am laying on the couch just relaxing..... and Bless you Sheila for your kindness and caring.??? If you know anyone who could help you to become your own non-profit that could, potentially, reduce some of the burden of expense...?? I KNOW you are beyond busy already but just wanted to mention it if you had not though about it already...? It's not a walk in the park to put in place but has some distinct advantages... Bob C. On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:14 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 28 Cats.. (Gloria) > 2. Re: 28 Cats.. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > 3. Re: 28 Cats.. (Sandy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:42:51 -0700 > From: Gloria To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to > others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off > viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. > I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we > replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement > door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the > other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen > guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as > a drum-especially when he wants attention! > > I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 > years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) > > That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and > entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have > inside! > > ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a > variety of brands- and fresh water > ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by > law > ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if > life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on > retirement funds ?Pray: a lot > Will be praying for Robert too! > > > > > -g ?? > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> wrote: >> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think >> he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Hi Sheila... >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or >> expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >> fosters??? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> wrote: >> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:56:06 +0000 > From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > > To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > Message-ID: > <6194923b48b64835bf76a6d451b92383 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have the same set up, a door with plexi so he can see the other > animals. He has a bed and tv and 2 big rooms to run around, I just > feel bad that he is alone most of the time until I get home and we > watch TV together for acouple. I am scared of that vaccines b/c of > the dangers I hear about. > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf > Of Gloria > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:43 AM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > > Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to > others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off > viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. > I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we > replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement > door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the > other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen > guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as > a drum-especially when he wants attention! > > I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 > years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) > > That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and > entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have > inside! > > ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a > variety of brands- and fresh water > ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by > law > ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if > life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on > retirement funds ?Pray: a lot > Will be praying for Robert too! > > > > > -g ?? > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> wrote: >> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think >> he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Hi Sheila... >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or >> expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >> fosters??? >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> wrote: >> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:14:08 +0000 (UTC) > From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > Message-ID: > <14070569.13183874.1500912848812.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet > seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school > and unless they seek to know more and better info continue with the > same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I > guess it's like each one has to do for our own health care - be > informed and take charge. And, it's not easy > Sandy ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marlene Snowman" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, > July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. > My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 > percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune > system has more chances. Who really knows.... > Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >> wrote: >> So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it >> for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV >> separated. Thanks for the info >> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene >> Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. >> The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and >> remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain >> separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that >> are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or >> groom each other, although they do play together. It warms my heart >> to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the >> illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work for >> them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am grateful >> that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not >> sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at >> the onset. >> My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with >> the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. >> M >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> wrote: >>> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >>> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >>> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >>> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >>> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >>> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think he >>> can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT >>> CHAPEL Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM To: >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >>> Hi Sheila... Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( >>> or expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after and the expense >>> could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters??? >>> Bob >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: >>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) 2. Re: Checking in..... >>>> (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>>> Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 From: Pam Doore >>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... Message-ID: >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. >>>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end >>>> up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, >>>> Sheila DDS Timonium" < Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>>>> first FELV cat. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM *To:* >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not >>>>> heard anything. >>>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical >>>>>> in cats >>>>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>>> >>>>>> Amani >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 >>>>>> 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: >>>>>> [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>>> great. >>>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 >>>>> 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>>> in..... >>>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>>> again >>>>> not getting group mail.... >>>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) >>>>>> is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we >>>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing >>>>> him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have >>>>> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >>>>> controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the >>>>> most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on >>>>> Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, >>>>> prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in >>>>> milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears >>>>> closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other >>>>> " alternative " medications ! which I h ave suspended only because >>>>> the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to give him >>>>> something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I want to >>>>> keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones >>>>>> buddies are >>>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can >>>>> do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which >>>>> has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent >>>>> on expanding his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in >>>>> anything resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is >>>>> enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a >>>>> fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it >>>>> without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like >>>>> them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a >>>>> more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ >>>>> have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that >>>>> jerk Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the >>>>> Justice I ask you!!!!)... >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob >>>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>> rg >>>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>> scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ >>>> Message: 2 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 From: >>>> "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >>>> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] >>>> Checking in..... Message-ID: >>>> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >>>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if >>>> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan >>>> is up to 28 cats. Insane. >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... >>>> >>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. >>>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end >>>> up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, >>>> Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: No, he said it was no big deal at >>>> all. I just worry. This is my first FELV cat. >>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... >>>> >>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? On >>>> Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>>> wrote: It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get >>>> bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>> dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>> in..... >>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not >>>> heard anything. >>>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical >>>>> in cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>> Amani >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 >>>>> 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] >>>>> Checking in..... >>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>> again not getting group mail.... Has there been activity I've >>>>> missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the >>>>> moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any >>>>> minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering >>>>> if any of you have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone >>>>> administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed >>>>> to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow >>>>> their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are >>>>> killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to >>>>> have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >>>>> controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the >>>>> most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on >>>>> Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, >>>>> prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved in >>>>> milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears >>>>> closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two other >>>>> " alternative " medications ! >>>> which I h ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody >>>> murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor >>>> invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a >>>> minimum.... >>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones >>>>> buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV >>>>> Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain >>>>> injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's >>>>> been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this >>>>> AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the spirit >>>>> in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's part of why >>>>> I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what they have to >>>>> and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps >>>>> I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why >>>>> ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why >>>>> did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and >>>>> there's that jerk Mittens running around all carefree and >>>>> happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... >>>>> Bob >>>>> Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g >>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g >>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>> g -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>> scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48dc7108.c37c5.15d77ed41ec.Webtop.36@optonline.net> When we reply ( apparently it doesn't make much difference if we hit reply or reply all) it would be helpful to erase those parts of the posting that reference earlier discussions and do not have relevance to the current posting....? This also prevents having your message held up because it exceeds the allowable line limits.. It can be disconcerting when one is in a hurry but would like to read responses to earlier questions... they are often tucked WAY far down in a message body such that you have to wade through a thousand lines that you have already read a thousand times to get to it.... Try it... it could help... BOb On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 11:28 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Surgery (dlgegg at windstream.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:28:26 -0500 > From: To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery > Message-ID: <20170724232826.8U15A.21851.root at pamxwww01-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > If only....everyone who has a cat or dog would get them > spayed/neutered there would not be so many for us to care for. I have > heard all kinds of excuses like it costs so much. If they did get > their pets spayed/neutered they would not have the work involved in > getting rid of them. When a new one shows up here, they get neutered > or spayed within 2 weeks after I have found out that they do not > belong to anyone. > > ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: >> Hello Everyone... > Thank you so much for your concerns about " my " surgery but it is an > unfortunate result of the structure of the mailings that this mistake > was made....??? I am not having heart surgery : )????? Believe it is > our member whose email is dlegg ( wish people would put their actual > names on their postings) I forget in between time whose name is > associated with which address.....???? Seems when I've made and > inquiry about activity on the group it engenders a rash of new > mailings and confusion reins? : )?? Glad, however, to see activity and > that we are all still here....? I always learn something new when > folks post their thoughts and practices on the group....?? I am > humbled by so many of you and your commitment to your Kitties... > without people such as you the world would be a much more bleak place > for the unwanted animals of the world.....? I get caught up in " if > only's " even at my age and I think so often " if only" everyone would > take in just? 1 animal how much of an improvement that would make to > the lives of animals everywhere.....? It is such a shame that not > everyone feels toward animals as we do... they can't experience the > joy and wonder that an animal brings to ones life or the simple > pleasure of having a cat sit on your chest purring while you watch TV > ( all 14 lbs of Gilbert and his drool( I _ could_ do without the > drool!!)... somehow calm me when I am laying on the couch just > relaxing..... and Bless you Sheila for your kindness and caring.??? If > you know anyone who could help you to become your own non-profit that > could, potentially, reduce some of the burden of expense...?? I KNOW > you are beyond busy already but just wanted to mention it if you had > not though about it already...? It's not a walk in the park to put in > place but has some distinct advantages... > > Bob C. > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:14 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: 28 Cats.. (Gloria) >> 2. Re: 28 Cats.. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> 3. Re: 28 Cats.. (Sandy) >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:42:51 -0700 >> From: Gloria To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to >> others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off >> viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. >> I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we >> replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement >> door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the >> other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen >> guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as >> a drum-especially when he wants attention! >> >> I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 >> years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) >> >> That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and >> entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I >> have inside! >> >> ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a >> variety of brands- and fresh water >> ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by >> law >> ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if >> life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on >> retirement funds ?Pray: a lot >> Will be praying for Robert too! >> >> >> >> >> -g ?? >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> wrote: >>> >>> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >>> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >>> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >>> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >>> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >>> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think >>> he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >>> >>> Hi Sheila... >>> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or >>> expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after >>> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >>> fosters??? >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:56:06 +0000 >> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >> >> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> Message-ID: >> <6194923b48b64835bf76a6d451b92383 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I have the same set up, a door with plexi so he can see the other >> animals. He has a bed and tv and 2 big rooms to run around, I just >> feel bad that he is alone most of the time until I get home and we >> watch TV together for acouple. I am scared of that vaccines b/c of >> the dangers I hear about. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Gloria >> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:43 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to >> others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off >> viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. >> I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we >> replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement >> door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the >> other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen >> guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as >> a drum-especially when he wants attention! >> >> I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 >> years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) >> >> That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and >> entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I >> have inside! >> >> ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a >> variety of brands- and fresh water >> ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by >> law >> ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if >> life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on >> retirement funds ?Pray: a lot >> Will be praying for Robert too! >> >> >> >> >> -g ?? >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> wrote: >>> >>> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >>> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >>> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >>> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >>> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >>> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think >>> he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >>> >>> Hi Sheila... >>> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or >>> expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after >>> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >>> fosters??? >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:14:08 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> Message-ID: >> <14070569.13183874.1500912848812.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> >> It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet >> seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in >> school and unless they seek to know more and better info continue >> with the same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine >> protocol. I guess it's like each one has to do for our own health >> care - be informed and take charge. And, it's not easy >> Sandy ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Marlene Snowman" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: >> Monday, July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 >> percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune >> system has more chances. Who really knows.... >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> wrote: >>> So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting >>> it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV >>> separated. Thanks for the info >>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene >>> Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >>> I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. >>> The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and >>> remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I >>> maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate >>> dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with >>> one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It >>> warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of >>> life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need >>> this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky >>> and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I >>> now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would >>> have been sicker at the onset. >>> My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with >>> the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. >>> M >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> wrote: >>>> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >>>> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >>>> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with >>>> the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats >>>> and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv >>>> has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't >>>> think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT >>>> CHAPEL Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >>>> Hi Sheila... Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( >>>> or expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after and the >>>> expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >>>> fosters??? >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, >>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: >>>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>>> g >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >>>>> specific than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) 2. Re: Checking in..... >>>>> (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> - >>>>> Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 From: Pam Doore >>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... Message-ID: >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. >>>>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably >>>>> end up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, >>>>> "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>>>>> first FELV cat. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM *To:* >>>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>>> in..... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>>>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>>>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>>>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>> dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: >>>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>>> in..... >>>>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol >>>>>> tested. i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, >>>>>> had not heard anything. >>>>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical >>>>>>> in cats >>>>>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amani >>>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 >>>>>>> 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: >>>>>>> [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>>>> great. >>>>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 >>>>>> 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>>>> in..... >>>>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am >>>>>>> once again >>>>>> not getting group mail.... >>>>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) >>>>>>> is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we >>>>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>>>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>>>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>>>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>>>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>>>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing >>>>>> him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have >>>>>> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >>>>>> controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the >>>>>> most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's >>>>>> on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for >>>>>> pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved >>>>>> in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears >>>>>> closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two >>>>>> other " alternative " medications ! which I h ave suspended only >>>>>> because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to >>>>>> give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I >>>>>> want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( >>>>>>> clincally) die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope >>>>>>> everyones buddies are >>>>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can >>>>>> do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury >>>>>> which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been >>>>>> insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this >>>>>> AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the >>>>>> spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's >>>>>> part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what >>>>>> they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't >>>>>> speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were >>>>>> more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than >>>>>> Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and >>>>>> THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around >>>>>> all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob >>>>>>> Bob >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>>> rg >>>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>>> rg >>>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>>> rg >>>>>> >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>>> scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ >>>>> Message: 2 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 From: >>>>> "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >>>>> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] >>>>> Checking in..... Message-ID: >>>>> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >>>>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure >>>>> if him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat >>>>> clan is up to 28 cats. Insane. >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> >>>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. >>>>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably >>>>> end up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, >>>>> "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: No, he said it was >>>>> no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my first FELV cat. >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> >>>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>>>> wrote: It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get >>>>> bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not >>>>> heard anything. >>>>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical >>>>>> in cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>>> Amani >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 >>>>>> 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: >>>>>> [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>>>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>>> in..... >>>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>>> again not getting group mail.... Has there been activity I've >>>>>> missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the >>>>>> moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any >>>>>> minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... >>>>>> Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose >>>>>> Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... >>>>>> When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I >>>>>> would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I >>>>>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does >>>>>> not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be >>>>>> pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is >>>>>> helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous >>>>>> drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. >>>>>> QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered >>>>>> via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( >>>>>> interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>>>>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>>>> which I h ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody >>>>> murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor >>>>> invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a >>>>> minimum.... >>>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones >>>>>> buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV >>>>>> Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain >>>>>> injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's >>>>>> been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this >>>>>> AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the >>>>>> spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's >>>>>> part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what >>>>>> they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't >>>>>> speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were >>>>>> more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than >>>>>> Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and >>>>>> THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around >>>>>> all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... >>>>>> Bob >>>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>>> g >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>>> g >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>>> g -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>>> scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48dc7108.c37c5.15d77ed41ec.Webtop.36@optonline.net> When we reply ( apparently it doesn't make much difference if we hit reply or reply all) it would be helpful to erase those parts of the posting that reference earlier discussions and do not have relevance to the current posting....? This also prevents having your message held up because it exceeds the allowable line limits.. It can be disconcerting when one is in a hurry but would like to read responses to earlier questions... they are often tucked WAY far down in a message body such that you have to wade through a thousand lines that you have already read a thousand times to get to it.... Try it... it could help... BOb On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 11:28 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Surgery (dlgegg at windstream.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:28:26 -0500 > From: To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery > Message-ID: <20170724232826.8U15A.21851.root at pamxwww01-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > If only....everyone who has a cat or dog would get them > spayed/neutered there would not be so many for us to care for. I have > heard all kinds of excuses like it costs so much. If they did get > their pets spayed/neutered they would not have the work involved in > getting rid of them. When a new one shows up here, they get neutered > or spayed within 2 weeks after I have found out that they do not > belong to anyone. > > ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: >> Hello Everyone... > Thank you so much for your concerns about " my " surgery but it is an > unfortunate result of the structure of the mailings that this mistake > was made....??? I am not having heart surgery : )????? Believe it is > our member whose email is dlegg ( wish people would put their actual > names on their postings) I forget in between time whose name is > associated with which address.....???? Seems when I've made and > inquiry about activity on the group it engenders a rash of new > mailings and confusion reins? : )?? Glad, however, to see activity and > that we are all still here....? I always learn something new when > folks post their thoughts and practices on the group....?? I am > humbled by so many of you and your commitment to your Kitties... > without people such as you the world would be a much more bleak place > for the unwanted animals of the world.....? I get caught up in " if > only's " even at my age and I think so often " if only" everyone would > take in just? 1 animal how much of an improvement that would make to > the lives of animals everywhere.....? It is such a shame that not > everyone feels toward animals as we do... they can't experience the > joy and wonder that an animal brings to ones life or the simple > pleasure of having a cat sit on your chest purring while you watch TV > ( all 14 lbs of Gilbert and his drool( I _ could_ do without the > drool!!)... somehow calm me when I am laying on the couch just > relaxing..... and Bless you Sheila for your kindness and caring.??? If > you know anyone who could help you to become your own non-profit that > could, potentially, reduce some of the burden of expense...?? I KNOW > you are beyond busy already but just wanted to mention it if you had > not though about it already...? It's not a walk in the park to put in > place but has some distinct advantages... > > Bob C. > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:14 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > wrote: > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: 28 Cats.. (Gloria) >> 2. Re: 28 Cats.. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> 3. Re: 28 Cats.. (Sandy) >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:42:51 -0700 >> From: Gloria To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to >> others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off >> viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. >> I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we >> replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement >> door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the >> other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen >> guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as >> a drum-especially when he wants attention! >> >> I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 >> years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) >> >> That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and >> entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I >> have inside! >> >> ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a >> variety of brands- and fresh water >> ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by >> law >> ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if >> life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on >> retirement funds ?Pray: a lot >> Will be praying for Robert too! >> >> >> >> >> -g ?? >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> wrote: >>> >>> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >>> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >>> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >>> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >>> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >>> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think >>> he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >>> >>> Hi Sheila... >>> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or >>> expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after >>> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >>> fosters??? >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:56:06 +0000 >> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >> >> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> Message-ID: >> <6194923b48b64835bf76a6d451b92383 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I have the same set up, a door with plexi so he can see the other >> animals. He has a bed and tv and 2 big rooms to run around, I just >> feel bad that he is alone most of the time until I get home and we >> watch TV together for acouple. I am scared of that vaccines b/c of >> the dangers I hear about. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf >> Of Gloria >> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:43 AM >> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> >> Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to >> others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off >> viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. >> I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we >> replaced the door with another re-engineered door. The replacement >> door bottom panel we replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the >> other cats in the house, and the top panel with a screen door screen >> guard panel for air and to get house sounds. He uses the plexiglas as >> a drum-especially when he wants attention! >> >> I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 >> years- have my own easy chair and large screen tv :) >> >> That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and >> entertainment- he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I >> have inside! >> >> ?Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a >> variety of brands- and fresh water >> ?Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by >> law >> ?Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if >> life & death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on >> retirement funds ?Pray: a lot >> Will be praying for Robert too! >> >> >> >> >> -g ?? >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> wrote: >>> >>> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >>> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >>> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the >>> regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and >>> not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has >>> no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't think >>> he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL >>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM >>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >>> >>> Hi Sheila... >>> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or >>> expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after >>> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >>> fosters??? >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, >>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> >>>> >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) >>>> 2. Re: Checking in..... (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:14:08 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Sandy To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> Message-ID: >> <14070569.13183874.1500912848812.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> >> It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet >> seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in >> school and unless they seek to know more and better info continue >> with the same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine >> protocol. I guess it's like each one has to do for our own health >> care - be informed and take charge. And, it's not easy >> Sandy ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Marlene Snowman" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: >> Monday, July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >> My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 >> percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune >> system has more chances. Who really knows.... >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>> wrote: >>> So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting >>> it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV >>> separated. Thanks for the info >>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene >>> Snowman Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM To: >>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >>> I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. >>> The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and >>> remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I >>> maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate >>> dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with >>> one another or groom each other, although they do play together. It >>> warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of >>> life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need >>> this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky >>> and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I >>> now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would >>> have been sicker at the onset. >>> My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with >>> the decision to introduce or not is a tough one. >>> M >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >>>> wrote: >>>> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does >>>> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about >>>> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with >>>> the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats >>>> and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv >>>> has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't >>>> think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT >>>> CHAPEL Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM To: >>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. >>>> Hi Sheila... Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( >>>> or expenses).... that is a lot of cats to look after and the >>>> expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them >>>> fosters??? >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, >>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: >>>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>>> g >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >>>>> specific than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> 1. Re: Checking in..... (Pam Doore) 2. Re: Checking in..... >>>>> (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> - >>>>> Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 From: Pam Doore >>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... Message-ID: >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. >>>>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably >>>>> end up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, >>>>> "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my >>>>>> first FELV cat. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM *To:* >>>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>>> in..... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>>>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < >>>>>> Sheila.Armstrong-Brown at ssa.gov> wrote: >>>>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork >>>>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>> dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: >>>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>>> in..... >>>>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol >>>>>> tested. i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, >>>>>> had not heard anything. >>>>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: >>>>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical >>>>>>> in cats >>>>>> (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amani >>>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 >>>>>>> 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: >>>>>>> [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>>>> great. >>>>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 >>>>>> 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>>>> in..... >>>>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am >>>>>>> once again >>>>>> not getting group mail.... >>>>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) >>>>>>> is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we >>>>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll >>>>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you >>>>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered >>>>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster >>>>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their >>>>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing >>>>>> him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have >>>>>> gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well >>>>>> controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the >>>>>> most so I could cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's >>>>>> on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for >>>>>> pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered via syringe dissolved >>>>>> in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting substance... bears >>>>>> closer scrutiny... supposed to have anti tumor activity) Two >>>>>> other " alternative " medications ! which I h ave suspended only >>>>>> because the poor boy screams bloody murder every time I have to >>>>>> give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral cavity I >>>>>> want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... >>>>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( >>>>>>> clincally) die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope >>>>>>> everyones buddies are >>>>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can >>>>>> do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury >>>>>> which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's been >>>>>> insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this >>>>>> AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the >>>>>> spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's >>>>>> part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what >>>>>> they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't >>>>>> speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were >>>>>> more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than >>>>>> Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and >>>>>> THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around >>>>>> all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob >>>>>>> Bob >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>>> rg >>>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>>> rg >>>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o >>>>>> rg >>>>>> >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>>> scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ >>>>> Message: 2 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 14:03:15 +0000 From: >>>>> "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >>>>> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] >>>>> Checking in..... Message-ID: >>>>> <2aabed0b545f4a3c9da8b797ebc78050 at NSC-DAG4-04.ba.ad.ssa.gov> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the >>>>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure >>>>> if him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat >>>>> clan is up to 28 cats. Insane. >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> >>>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her >>>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. >>>>> Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably >>>>> end up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, >>>>> "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > wrote: No, he said it was >>>>> no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my first FELV cat. >>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> >>>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? >>>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > >>>>> wrote: It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get >>>>> bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk >>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> dlgegg at windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To: >>>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>> in..... >>>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. >>>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not >>>>> heard anything. >>>>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: >>>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical >>>>>> in cats (and being called into question in humans too). >>>>>> Amani >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 >>>>>> 10:37 AM To: 'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org' Subject: Re: >>>>>> [Felvtalk] Checking in..... >>>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back >>>>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is >>>>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. >>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM >>>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking >>>>>> in..... >>>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once >>>>>> again not getting group mail.... Has there been activity I've >>>>>> missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the >>>>>> moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any >>>>>> minute...so I'll just enjoy it while it's happening).... >>>>>> Wondering if any of you have experience with Higher dose >>>>>> Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... >>>>>> When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that I >>>>>> would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I >>>>>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does >>>>>> not appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be >>>>>> pretty well controlled.... Just wish I knew specifically what is >>>>>> helping the most so I could cut down on superfluous >>>>>> drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if pain is up.. >>>>>> QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered >>>>>> via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( >>>>>> interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to >>>>>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! >>>>> which I h ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody >>>>> murder every time I have to give him something..... with a tumor >>>>> invading his oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a >>>>> minimum.... >>>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) >>>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones >>>>>> buddies are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV >>>>>> Kitties can do)... Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain >>>>>> injury which has left him with poor balance... but lately he's >>>>>> been insistent on expanding his range and even tried running this >>>>>> AM... Wasn't in anything resembling a straight line but the >>>>>> spirit in this guy is enough to make you weep... Guess that's >>>>>> part of why I am such a fan of animals.... they simply do what >>>>>> they have to and do it without complaint ( Sure glad they can't >>>>>> speak...perhaps I'd like them less if their inner thoughts were >>>>>> more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more thoughtful caring cat than >>>>>> Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to get hit by a car and >>>>>> THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk Mittens running around >>>>>> all carefree and happy...where's the Justice I ask you!!!!)... >>>>>> Bob >>>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>>> g >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>>> g >>>>> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing >>>>> list Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >>>>> g -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>>> scrubbed... 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I made this suggestion and the last two STILL had all the text...? I am HOPEing that this time the text remains eliminated.... Bob On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: A suggestion that could make it easier to keep up with > posts... (ROBERT CHAPEL) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 00:07:03 -0400 (EDT) > From: ROBERT CHAPEL To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Cc: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] A suggestion that could make it easier to keep > up with posts... > Message-ID: <48dc7108.c37c5.15d77ed41ec.Webtop.36 at optonline.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no > > When we reply ( apparently it doesn't make much difference if we hit > reply or reply all) it would be helpful to erase those parts of the > posting that reference earlier discussions and do not have relevance > to the current posting....? This also prevents having your message > held up because it exceeds the allowable line limits.. > It can be disconcerting when one is in a hurry but would like to read > responses to earlier questions... they are often tucked WAY far down > in a message body such that you have to wade through a thousand lines > that you have already read a thousand times to get to it.... > > Try it... it could help... > > BOb > From thyme2sail at gmail.com Tue Jul 25 11:32:56 2017 From: thyme2sail at gmail.com (Pam Doore) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:32:56 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] eliminating extraneous text In-Reply-To: <64454b6a.c39bd.15d79d1ac29.Webtop.36@optonline.net> References: <64454b6a.c39bd.15d79d1ac29.Webtop.36@optonline.net> Message-ID: > >> Hi Bob, I think you suggetion is a good one :-). It is particularly >> hard for me to follow so many emails in the same conversations on my phone >> when they are clumped as one conversation :). >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thyme2sail at gmail.com Tue Jul 25 11:34:50 2017 From: thyme2sail at gmail.com (Pam Doore) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:34:50 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Surgery In-Reply-To: <20170724232332.GW4U9.21849.root@pamxwww01-z01> References: <58a7f560.c2b65.15d767f1c57.Webtop.48@optonline.net> <20170724232332.GW4U9.21849.root@pamxwww01-z01> Message-ID: Hi Deloris! I pray your surgery and recovery goes well! Praise the Lord for good helper for your babies! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlgegg at windstream.net Wed Jul 26 12:38:17 2017 From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 12:38:17 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] A suggestion that could make it easier to keep up with posts... In-Reply-To: <48dc7108.c37c5.15d77ed41ec.Webtop.36@optonline.net> Message-ID: <20170726133817.EBENF.2222.root@pamxwww08-z01> good idea! will do this from now on. Dorlis ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > When we reply ( apparently it doesn't make much difference if we hit reply or reply all) it would be helpful to erase those parts of the posting that reference earlier discussions and do not have relevance to the current posting....? This also prevents having your message held up because it exceeds the allowable line limits.. From felinerescue at frontier.com Wed Jul 26 16:45:41 2017 From: felinerescue at frontier.com (Lorrie) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 17:45:41 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] A suggestion that could make it easier to keep up with posts... In-Reply-To: <20170726133817.EBENF.2222.root@pamxwww08-z01> References: <48dc7108.c37c5.15d77ed41ec.Webtop.36@optonline.net> <20170726133817.EBENF.2222.root@pamxwww08-z01> Message-ID: <20170726214541.GA836@lnx12.netgear.com> I'm in 6 cat groups and all the moderators ask us to delete messages that are no longer being discussed. They also ask us to change the subject line when a new topic is being discussed. Regardless, no one does this. I always delete unnecessary stuff, but almost everyone else sends LONG posts containing all the past stuff. I do not know why people do this. I hope the post from Robert will help everyone to remember to delete when necessary. Lorrie On 07-26, dlgegg at windstream.net wrote: > good idea! will do this from now on. Dorlis > > ---- ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > When we reply ( apparently it doesn't make much difference if we hit > reply or reply all) it would be helpful to erase those parts of the > posting that reference earlier discussions and do not have relevance to > the current posting....? This also prevents having your message held up > because it exceeds the allowable line limits.. > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org From thyme2sail at gmail.com Wed Jul 26 18:57:05 2017 From: thyme2sail at gmail.com (Pam Doore) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 19:57:05 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] A suggestion that could make it easier to keep up with posts... In-Reply-To: <20170726214541.GA836@lnx12.netgear.com> References: <48dc7108.c37c5.15d77ed41ec.Webtop.36@optonline.net> <20170726133817.EBENF.2222.root@pamxwww08-z01> <20170726214541.GA836@lnx12.netgear.com> Message-ID: I have made a similiar request to our board members and they never do it either. Drives me crazy! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j13w0lson at gmail.com Fri Jul 28 12:40:06 2017 From: j13w0lson at gmail.com (Jennifer Olson) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 12:40:06 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Post-Op In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob, How are you ? ? ? Jen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From ardyr at centurytel.net Mon Jul 31 22:51:19 2017 From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 22:51:19 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitten tossed out of car Message-ID: <004501d30a79$9350e830$b9f2b890$@centurytel.net> Hello my Felv friends ---- this is a little off-topic, but I have to vent: My granddaughter texted me this afternoon that a Facebook friend of hers was driving from our city to a neighboring town, when the vehicle ahead of her tossed a kitten out of the car window at 60 mph!! The poor little babe struck her windshield! She was able to come to a safe stop, but was unable to get the license number or really much of a description of the vehicle. The little gray kitty was badly injured, but she is taking good care of it, and has it home with her tonight. He (or she) has eye and nose injuries, among others, but I believe he is stable. My granddaughter messaged her friend and said that she will help with the vet bill and also with the food and other supplies she will need for this kitty. The friend says she is going to provide a forever home for the kitty. I am dropping off some money in the morning at my granddaughter's house to pitch in, because she is going shopping for kitty food, a bed, some toys, a brush, etc. for her friend. We are just so irritated that someone would do something like this, and I am so grateful there are people like my granddaughter and her friend who are willing to do what it takes to help this poor little babe. I am hoping someone on Facebook will see the story they posted, with pictures, and turn this person in to the authorities. He also could have caused an accident if the girl had swerved to avoid hitting the kitty - but I suppose it happened so fast she probably didn't even know what it was. I hope this person does not have other pets, or children! Thanks for listening! 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I guess that stupid idiot f*&^%s can't find anything more vulnerable and helpless than a kitten to show their toughness. Just obscene. I shudder to think just how many times the kittens don't survive. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson Sent: July-31-17 11:51 PM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitten tossed out of car Hello my Felv friends ---- this is a little off-topic, but I have to vent: My granddaughter texted me this afternoon that a Facebook friend of hers was driving from our city to a neighboring town, when the vehicle ahead of her tossed a kitten out of the car window at 60 mph!! The poor little babe struck her windshield! She was able to come to a safe stop, but was unable to get the license number or really much of a description of the vehicle. The little gray kitty was badly injured, but she is taking good care of it, and has it home with her tonight. He (or she) has eye and nose injuries, among others, but I believe he is stable. My granddaughter messaged her friend and said that she will help with the vet bill and also with the food and other supplies she will need for this kitty. The friend says she is going to provide a forever home for the kitty. I am dropping off some money in the morning at my granddaughter's house to pitch in, because she is going shopping for kitty food, a bed, some toys, a brush, etc. for her friend. We are just so irritated that someone would do something like this, and I am so grateful there are people like my granddaughter and her friend who are willing to do what it takes to help this poor little babe. I am hoping someone on Facebook will see the story they posted, with pictures, and turn this person in to the authorities. He also could have caused an accident if the girl had swerved to avoid hitting the kitty - but I suppose it happened so fast she probably didn't even know what it was. I hope this person does not have other pets, or children! Thanks for listening! Ardy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amyynoelle at gmail.com Mon Jul 31 23:39:06 2017 From: amyynoelle at gmail.com (Amy Glunt) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 23:39:06 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitten tossed out of car In-Reply-To: References: <004501d30a79$9350e830$b9f2b890$@centurytel.net> Message-ID: Makes me sick! Just about a month ago I picked up a kitten off the side of the road that had been tossed out of a car. He's recovered well and is napping next to me on the couch. Fortunately none of his injuries were internal or very serious, but it just makes you rage inside. Who'd do something like that? :( hope the little grey kitten makes a full recovery. Amy Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 31, 2017, at 11:16 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > Ardy ? generally, I am not supportive of the death penalty, but I would gladly make an exception for barbarians like those you describe, and I would just as happily be the executioner. This is not the first time I have heard this same hideous story. Several years ago in Toronto, Ontario, the same thing happened on one of our highways, and again, that little kitten at least got lucky enough to survive and be rescued by a motorist who saw what happened. > > I have heard it repeated elsewhere. I guess that stupid idiot f*&^%s can?t find anything more vulnerable and helpless than a kitten to show their toughness. Just obscene. > > I shudder to think just how many times the kittens don?t survive. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson > Sent: July-31-17 11:51 PM > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitten tossed out of car > > Hello my Felv friends ---- this is a little off-topic, but I have to vent: My granddaughter texted me this afternoon that a Facebook friend of hers was driving from our city to a neighboring town, when the vehicle ahead of her tossed a kitten out of the car window at 60 mph!! The poor little babe struck her windshield! She was able to come to a safe stop, but was unable to get the license number or really much of a description of the vehicle. The little gray kitty was badly injured, but she is taking good care of it, and has it home with her tonight. He (or she) has eye and nose injuries, among others, but I believe he is stable. My granddaughter messaged her friend and said that she will help with the vet bill and also with the food and other supplies she will need for this kitty. The friend says she is going to provide a forever home for the kitty. I am dropping off some money in the morning at my granddaughter?s house to pitch in, because she is going shopping for kitty food, a bed, some toys, a brush, etc. for her friend. We are just so irritated that someone would do something like this, and I am so grateful there are people like my granddaughter and her friend who are willing to do what it takes to help this poor little babe. > > I am hoping someone on Facebook will see the story they posted, with pictures, and turn this person in to the authorities. He also could have caused an accident if the girl had swerved to avoid hitting the kitty ? but I suppose it happened so fast she probably didn?t even know what it was. 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