[Felvtalk] Finding money for Vet Tx...
Margo
toomanykitties2 at earthlink.net
Fri Jan 20 07:43:42 CST 2017
I've donated to a number of "GoFundMe" (and other similar) campaigns, and also donated directly with a paypal address. I dont know how either works really, but if you set one up, please post a link here.
Margo
-----Original Message-----
>From: ROBERT CHAPEL <bchapel at optonline.net>
>Sent: Jan 20, 2017 4:14 AM
>To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>Cc: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding money for Vet Tx...
>
>Hello All:
>I have a recollection of someone( or someone(s) in our forum mentioning
>trying a " Go fund me " campaign for their cat(s).... Was it at all
>successful?? I am going to need to find some money if I am going to
>keep my guys going as I really can't return to any kind of reasonable
>paying work as long as meds need to be give a few times a day ( I can
>get paid 3x more for a day of work if I go back to where I used to work
>which is 55 miles away.... but it makes me nervous being that far away
>if something happens that I can't get back)... I have no real prospects
>for anything near my home but am beginning to look.... The commited
>folks on this forum are spending FAR more on their Kitties than I could
>dream of affording and it hurts me that what _ I _ thought would be
>adequate care falls so short of what others are doing......
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>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 03:51:29 -0500 (EST)
>> From: ROBERT CHAPEL To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Cc: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Curly...
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>> Randy...
>> You might want to invest in an inexpensive Mortar and Pestle (
>> available in any Kitchen store if you don't already have one) they are
>> quite useful in grinding virtually any compressed pill into fine
>> powder if you spend a little extra time.....? I have one devoted to
>> only pet meds and I do all my mixing in it as well so tha no powder is
>> wasted ( eg... if I'm going to give Doxy/Winstrol in food I'll
>> grind...then add food and then, perhaps, a little water or broth
>> depending on which food I'm using... I'm sure you've discovered which
>> foods are best to assure Curly will eat them with meds added ( My Guy
>> will only take meds mixed in Baby food with some powdered Temptations
>> treats added.... other days he won't consider it... so generally I mix
>> the Winstrol and Doxy with a ML or two of Broth and administer with
>> Syringe.... this assures that he gets the full dose and obviates
>> worries about any sticking around in his esophagus... I very seldom
>> pill him any more unless I am in a huge rush and it's either that or
>> skip the dose....? IF.. I pill him I always follow with a ML or two of
>> water and a few Kitty treats in hopes that there is no residual to
>> cause problems....? BTW...? a HCT jump from 9 to 15 in only a couple
>> of weeks is Wonderful....If I were you I wouldn't change a thing
>> simply because? you don't really know which of the components is "
>> more " responsible for the results or if it's the synergy between all
>> three.....? Once he's closer to Normal Levels you could play around a
>> little... but I'd , personally, wait on changing anything in the
>> protocol that you've been using...
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:42 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org
>> wrote:
>>
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>>> 1. Re: Curly's gradual improvement (Amani Oakley)
>>> 2. Re: Curly's gradual improvement (Ardy Robertson)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 03:11:20 +0000
>>> From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re:
>>> [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual improvement
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Oh Randy, I am so THRILLED to hear of your positive response to the
>>> medications, and that your vet was so helpful. (What does your vet
>>> think of the response?) You may think that 15% haematocrit is still
>>> very sick, and it is still well outside the normal range, but you?ve
>>> basically had a 60% increase in haematocrit in 3 weeks. That is quite
>>> amazing and wonderful. It is as good a result as you would have had
>>> with 2 units of blood being given as a transfusion, only it is much
>>> better than a transfusion because Curly is producing her own cells,
>>> rather than temporarily filling up with someone else?s blood.
>>>
>>> With respect to the Doxy, I am not sure. If it were me, I would
>>> probably want to continue if you can. You?ve had a very good result.
>>> Why mess with the formula? I can?t say definitively, one way or the
>>> other, since I very much figured things out by running weekly blood
>>> work and if I saw a dip or a reversal in the numbers, I would adjust
>>> the medication accordingly. I don?t know if I am right about my Doxy
>>> theory (and it is just pure conjecture on my part, based on my
>>> non-vet research) but I really think that the Doxy is part of the
>>> effective package. I feel that the Doxy holds the virus in check ?
>>> perhaps slowing down its reproduction by inhibiting RNA synthesis ?
>>> enough to allow the body to make some progress with the Winstrol. I
>>> don?t think that the Winstrol on its own is enough.
>>>
>>> With the Doxy, I used to scrape the quarter tablet into a slab of
>>> butter to coat it with butter, to help it slide down better, since
>>> the quarter table it very dry and scratchy. I also posted recently
>>> that the Doxy we get from vets (and even from our doctors) is the
>>> same as what you can get to treat fish or birds, in a pet store, and
>>> that is sold in powdered packages of 100 mg (same as 1 tablet). A
>>> prescription isn?t needed for it, and because it is powdered, it can
>>> be mixed into food or liquid.
>>>
>>> Great news, too, with your success in getting her to eat more and put
>>> on weight.
>>>
>>> I love to hear good news on this front. Let?s hope she continues in
>>> the right direction.
>>>
>>> Amani
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Randy Henke
>>> Sent: January-19-17 9:53 PM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual improvement
>>>
>>> It has been a little over a month ago that I asked for advice on this
>>> forum for our little girl, Curly.
>>> At that point, I had little hope. She was so lethargic and her
>>> hematocrit had dipped to a critical 9%. I took everyone's advice,
>>> especially Amani's, and asked our vet for Predisolone, Winstrol and
>>> Doxycycline.
>>> According to her latest CBC two weeks ago, she is still a very sick
>>> kitty but her hematocrit rebounded to 15% which I know is still very
>>> low. All other numbers are improving slowly as well. That was after
>>> less than three weeks of treatment.
>>> She is due for another CBC next Tuesday and I am hopeful we will see
>>> more improvement. I've noticed her gums are more pink which I believe
>>> is a good sign.
>>> We were still having problems with getting her to eat. She would have
>>> her good days and her bad days but her weight was still creeping
>>> down. Last week I asked our vet about Mirtazapine and our vet agreed
>>> to give us a prescription for it. I have to thank Robert for
>>> mentioning this in one of his posts.
>>>
>>> One day last week she didn't want to eat so I gave her a quarter pill
>>> (3.75 mg) which is the dose our vet prescribed to give her daily. The
>>> result was phenomenal and almost a little scary. She was bouncing off
>>> the walls within a few hours and eating everything she could get her
>>> paws on. I almost felt a little sorry for her because it was like she
>>> couldn't sit still for more than a couple of minutes. But it was like
>>> getting our old Curly back again in just a single day!
>>> The effect tapered off after a couple of days and we didn't feel
>>> comfortable giving her another dose until she stopped eating again
>>> because of how dramatic the change was. I've read online that a
>>> smaller dose could be effective if given every 72 hours so we are
>>> going to try doing that so she keeps eating. It was incredible to see
>>> her weight go up by a quarter pound in just a couple of days.
>>> We are continuing the Prednisolone and Winstrol at the recommended
>>> doses but our two week Doxycycline prescription ran out over a week
>>> ago. She does appear to still be making improvement without it but
>>> I'm wondering if I should ask for another prescription to keep that
>>> going as well.
>>> I always worry about giving her the quarter pill of Doxy because I
>>> know it can cause esophageal damage if it isn't followed by liquids.
>>> I was following the pill with the liquid Winstrol solution but wasn't
>>> sure if that was enough.
>>> Many thanks to everyone who gave us advice. It looks like we might
>>> have our Curly back for at least a while yet and it's all because of
>>> you people.
>>> Randy
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>>> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:42:44 -0600
>>> From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual
>>> improvement
>>> Message-ID: <000501d272d7$a53ba3d0$efb2eb70$@centurytel.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Hi Amani ? you just reminded me that I had purchased Doxycyclene for
>>> our 21 year old cockatiel ? Selu ? a few years ago. He was
>>> experiencing some respiratory problems and I had to mix it into his
>>> water. It worked well as I remember.
>>>
>>> Ardy
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Amani Oakley
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:11 PM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual improvement
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh Randy, I am so THRILLED to hear of your positive response to the
>>> medications, and that your vet was so helpful. (What does your vet
>>> think of the response?) You may think that 15% haematocrit is still
>>> very sick, and it is still well outside the normal range, but you?ve
>>> basically had a 60% increase in haematocrit in 3 weeks. That is quite
>>> amazing and wonderful. It is as good a result as you would have had
>>> with 2 units of blood being given as a transfusion, only it is much
>>> better than a transfusion because Curly is producing her own cells,
>>> rather than temporarily filling up with someone else?s blood.
>>>
>>>
>>> With respect to the Doxy, I am not sure. If it were me, I would
>>> probably want to continue if you can. You?ve had a very good result.
>>> Why mess with the formula? I can?t say definitively, one way or the
>>> other, since I very much figured things out by running weekly blood
>>> work and if I saw a dip or a reversal in the numbers, I would adjust
>>> the medication accordingly. I don?t know if I am right about my Doxy
>>> theory (and it is just pure conjecture on my part, based on my
>>> non-vet research) but I really think that the Doxy is part of the
>>> effective package. I feel that the Doxy holds the virus in check ?
>>> perhaps slowing down its reproduction by inhibiting RNA synthesis ?
>>> enough to allow the body to make some progress with the Winstrol. I
>>> don?t think that the Winstrol on its own is enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> With the Doxy, I used to scrape the quarter tablet into a slab of
>>> butter to coat it with butter, to help it slide down better, since
>>> the quarter table it very dry and scratchy. I also posted recently
>>> that the Doxy we get from vets (and even from our doctors) is the
>>> same as what you can get to treat fish or birds, in a pet store, and
>>> that is sold in powdered packages of 100 mg (same as 1 tablet). A
>>> prescription isn?t needed for it, and because it is powdered, it can
>>> be mixed into food or liquid.
>>>
>>>
>>> Great news, too, with your success in getting her to eat more and put
>>> on weight.
>>>
>>>
>>> I love to hear good news on this front. Let?s hope she continues in
>>> the right direction.
>>>
>>>
>>> Amani
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Randy Henke
>>> Sent: January-19-17 9:53 PM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual
>>> improvement
>>>
>>>
>>> It has been a little over a month ago that I asked for advice on this
>>> forum for our little girl, Curly.
>>>
>>> At that point, I had little hope. She was so lethargic and her
>>> hematocrit had dipped to a critical 9%. I took everyone's advice,
>>> especially Amani's, and asked our vet for Predisolone, Winstrol and
>>> Doxycycline.
>>>
>>> According to her latest CBC two weeks ago, she is still a very sick
>>> kitty but her hematocrit rebounded to 15% which I know is still very
>>> low. All other numbers are improving slowly as well. That was after
>>> less than three weeks of treatment.
>>>
>>> She is due for another CBC next Tuesday and I am hopeful we will see
>>> more improvement. I've noticed her gums are more pink which I believe
>>> is a good sign.
>>>
>>> We were still having problems with getting her to eat. She would have
>>> her good days and her bad days but her weight was still creeping
>>> down. Last week I asked our vet about Mirtazapine and our vet agreed
>>> to give us a prescription for it. I have to thank Robert for
>>> mentioning this in one of his posts.
>>>
>>> One day last week she didn't want to eat so I gave her a quarter pill
>>> (3.75 mg) which is the dose our vet prescribed to give her daily. The
>>> result was phenomenal and almost a little scary. She was bouncing off
>>> the walls within a few hours and eating everything she could get her
>>> paws on. I almost felt a little sorry for her because it was like she
>>> couldn't sit still for more than a couple of minutes. But it was like
>>> getting our old Curly back again in just a single day!
>>>
>>> The effect tapered off after a couple of days and we didn't feel
>>> comfortable giving her another dose until she stopped eating again
>>> because of how dramatic the change was. I've read online that a
>>> smaller dose could be effective if given every 72 hours so we are
>>> going to try doing that so she keeps eating. It was incredible to see
>>> her weight go up by a quarter pound in just a couple of days.
>>>
>>> We are continuing the Prednisolone and Winstrol at the recommended
>>> doses but our two week Doxycycline prescription ran out over a week
>>> ago. She does appear to still be making improvement without it but
>>> I'm wondering if I should ask for another prescription to keep that
>>> going as well.
>>>
>>> I always worry about giving her the quarter pill of Doxy because I
>>> know it can cause esophageal damage if it isn't followed by liquids.
>>> I was following the pill with the liquid Winstrol solution but wasn't
>>> sure if that was enough.
>>>
>>> Many thanks to everyone who gave us advice. It looks like we might
>>> have our Curly back for at least a while yet and it's all because of
>>> you people.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 03:51:29 -0500 (EST)
>> From: ROBERT CHAPEL To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Cc: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Curly...
>> Message-ID: <7b9b1878.2d7a4.159bb12d023.Webtop.39 at optonline.net>
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>> Randy...
>> You might want to invest in an inexpensive Mortar and Pestle (
>> available in any Kitchen store if you don't already have one) they are
>> quite useful in grinding virtually any compressed pill into fine
>> powder if you spend a little extra time.....? I have one devoted to
>> only pet meds and I do all my mixing in it as well so tha no powder is
>> wasted ( eg... if I'm going to give Doxy/Winstrol in food I'll
>> grind...then add food and then, perhaps, a little water or broth
>> depending on which food I'm using... I'm sure you've discovered which
>> foods are best to assure Curly will eat them with meds added ( My Guy
>> will only take meds mixed in Baby food with some powdered Temptations
>> treats added.... other days he won't consider it... so generally I mix
>> the Winstrol and Doxy with a ML or two of Broth and administer with
>> Syringe.... this assures that he gets the full dose and obviates
>> worries about any sticking around in his esophagus... I very seldom
>> pill him any more unless I am in a huge rush and it's either that or
>> skip the dose....? IF.. I pill him I always follow with a ML or two of
>> water and a few Kitty treats in hopes that there is no residual to
>> cause problems....? BTW...? a HCT jump from 9 to 15 in only a couple
>> of weeks is Wonderful....If I were you I wouldn't change a thing
>> simply because? you don't really know which of the components is "
>> more " responsible for the results or if it's the synergy between all
>> three.....? Once he's closer to Normal Levels you could play around a
>> little... but I'd , personally, wait on changing anything in the
>> protocol that you've been using...
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:42 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to
>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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>>>
>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>> felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org
>>>
>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>> felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org
>>>
>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..."
>>>
>>>
>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>> 1. Re: Curly's gradual improvement (Amani Oakley)
>>> 2. Re: Curly's gradual improvement (Ardy Robertson)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 03:11:20 +0000
>>> From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re:
>>> [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual improvement
>>> Message-ID:
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Oh Randy, I am so THRILLED to hear of your positive response to the
>>> medications, and that your vet was so helpful. (What does your vet
>>> think of the response?) You may think that 15% haematocrit is still
>>> very sick, and it is still well outside the normal range, but you?ve
>>> basically had a 60% increase in haematocrit in 3 weeks. That is quite
>>> amazing and wonderful. It is as good a result as you would have had
>>> with 2 units of blood being given as a transfusion, only it is much
>>> better than a transfusion because Curly is producing her own cells,
>>> rather than temporarily filling up with someone else?s blood.
>>>
>>> With respect to the Doxy, I am not sure. If it were me, I would
>>> probably want to continue if you can. You?ve had a very good result.
>>> Why mess with the formula? I can?t say definitively, one way or the
>>> other, since I very much figured things out by running weekly blood
>>> work and if I saw a dip or a reversal in the numbers, I would adjust
>>> the medication accordingly. I don?t know if I am right about my Doxy
>>> theory (and it is just pure conjecture on my part, based on my
>>> non-vet research) but I really think that the Doxy is part of the
>>> effective package. I feel that the Doxy holds the virus in check ?
>>> perhaps slowing down its reproduction by inhibiting RNA synthesis ?
>>> enough to allow the body to make some progress with the Winstrol. I
>>> don?t think that the Winstrol on its own is enough.
>>>
>>> With the Doxy, I used to scrape the quarter tablet into a slab of
>>> butter to coat it with butter, to help it slide down better, since
>>> the quarter table it very dry and scratchy. I also posted recently
>>> that the Doxy we get from vets (and even from our doctors) is the
>>> same as what you can get to treat fish or birds, in a pet store, and
>>> that is sold in powdered packages of 100 mg (same as 1 tablet). A
>>> prescription isn?t needed for it, and because it is powdered, it can
>>> be mixed into food or liquid.
>>>
>>> Great news, too, with your success in getting her to eat more and put
>>> on weight.
>>>
>>> I love to hear good news on this front. Let?s hope she continues in
>>> the right direction.
>>>
>>> Amani
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Randy Henke
>>> Sent: January-19-17 9:53 PM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual improvement
>>>
>>> It has been a little over a month ago that I asked for advice on this
>>> forum for our little girl, Curly.
>>> At that point, I had little hope. She was so lethargic and her
>>> hematocrit had dipped to a critical 9%. I took everyone's advice,
>>> especially Amani's, and asked our vet for Predisolone, Winstrol and
>>> Doxycycline.
>>> According to her latest CBC two weeks ago, she is still a very sick
>>> kitty but her hematocrit rebounded to 15% which I know is still very
>>> low. All other numbers are improving slowly as well. That was after
>>> less than three weeks of treatment.
>>> She is due for another CBC next Tuesday and I am hopeful we will see
>>> more improvement. I've noticed her gums are more pink which I believe
>>> is a good sign.
>>> We were still having problems with getting her to eat. She would have
>>> her good days and her bad days but her weight was still creeping
>>> down. Last week I asked our vet about Mirtazapine and our vet agreed
>>> to give us a prescription for it. I have to thank Robert for
>>> mentioning this in one of his posts.
>>>
>>> One day last week she didn't want to eat so I gave her a quarter pill
>>> (3.75 mg) which is the dose our vet prescribed to give her daily. The
>>> result was phenomenal and almost a little scary. She was bouncing off
>>> the walls within a few hours and eating everything she could get her
>>> paws on. I almost felt a little sorry for her because it was like she
>>> couldn't sit still for more than a couple of minutes. But it was like
>>> getting our old Curly back again in just a single day!
>>> The effect tapered off after a couple of days and we didn't feel
>>> comfortable giving her another dose until she stopped eating again
>>> because of how dramatic the change was. I've read online that a
>>> smaller dose could be effective if given every 72 hours so we are
>>> going to try doing that so she keeps eating. It was incredible to see
>>> her weight go up by a quarter pound in just a couple of days.
>>> We are continuing the Prednisolone and Winstrol at the recommended
>>> doses but our two week Doxycycline prescription ran out over a week
>>> ago. She does appear to still be making improvement without it but
>>> I'm wondering if I should ask for another prescription to keep that
>>> going as well.
>>> I always worry about giving her the quarter pill of Doxy because I
>>> know it can cause esophageal damage if it isn't followed by liquids.
>>> I was following the pill with the liquid Winstrol solution but wasn't
>>> sure if that was enough.
>>> Many thanks to everyone who gave us advice. It looks like we might
>>> have our Curly back for at least a while yet and it's all because of
>>> you people.
>>> Randy
>>>
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:42:44 -0600
>>> From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual
>>> improvement
>>> Message-ID: <000501d272d7$a53ba3d0$efb2eb70$@centurytel.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Hi Amani ? you just reminded me that I had purchased Doxycyclene for
>>> our 21 year old cockatiel ? Selu ? a few years ago. He was
>>> experiencing some respiratory problems and I had to mix it into his
>>> water. It worked well as I remember.
>>>
>>> Ardy
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Amani Oakley
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:11 PM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual improvement
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh Randy, I am so THRILLED to hear of your positive response to the
>>> medications, and that your vet was so helpful. (What does your vet
>>> think of the response?) You may think that 15% haematocrit is still
>>> very sick, and it is still well outside the normal range, but you?ve
>>> basically had a 60% increase in haematocrit in 3 weeks. That is quite
>>> amazing and wonderful. It is as good a result as you would have had
>>> with 2 units of blood being given as a transfusion, only it is much
>>> better than a transfusion because Curly is producing her own cells,
>>> rather than temporarily filling up with someone else?s blood.
>>>
>>>
>>> With respect to the Doxy, I am not sure. If it were me, I would
>>> probably want to continue if you can. You?ve had a very good result.
>>> Why mess with the formula? I can?t say definitively, one way or the
>>> other, since I very much figured things out by running weekly blood
>>> work and if I saw a dip or a reversal in the numbers, I would adjust
>>> the medication accordingly. I don?t know if I am right about my Doxy
>>> theory (and it is just pure conjecture on my part, based on my
>>> non-vet research) but I really think that the Doxy is part of the
>>> effective package. I feel that the Doxy holds the virus in check ?
>>> perhaps slowing down its reproduction by inhibiting RNA synthesis ?
>>> enough to allow the body to make some progress with the Winstrol. I
>>> don?t think that the Winstrol on its own is enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> With the Doxy, I used to scrape the quarter tablet into a slab of
>>> butter to coat it with butter, to help it slide down better, since
>>> the quarter table it very dry and scratchy. I also posted recently
>>> that the Doxy we get from vets (and even from our doctors) is the
>>> same as what you can get to treat fish or birds, in a pet store, and
>>> that is sold in powdered packages of 100 mg (same as 1 tablet). A
>>> prescription isn?t needed for it, and because it is powdered, it can
>>> be mixed into food or liquid.
>>>
>>>
>>> Great news, too, with your success in getting her to eat more and put
>>> on weight.
>>>
>>>
>>> I love to hear good news on this front. Let?s hope she continues in
>>> the right direction.
>>>
>>>
>>> Amani
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Randy Henke
>>> Sent: January-19-17 9:53 PM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Curly's gradual
>>> improvement
>>>
>>>
>>> It has been a little over a month ago that I asked for advice on this
>>> forum for our little girl, Curly.
>>>
>>> At that point, I had little hope. She was so lethargic and her
>>> hematocrit had dipped to a critical 9%. I took everyone's advice,
>>> especially Amani's, and asked our vet for Predisolone, Winstrol and
>>> Doxycycline.
>>>
>>> According to her latest CBC two weeks ago, she is still a very sick
>>> kitty but her hematocrit rebounded to 15% which I know is still very
>>> low. All other numbers are improving slowly as well. That was after
>>> less than three weeks of treatment.
>>>
>>> She is due for another CBC next Tuesday and I am hopeful we will see
>>> more improvement. I've noticed her gums are more pink which I believe
>>> is a good sign.
>>>
>>> We were still having problems with getting her to eat. She would have
>>> her good days and her bad days but her weight was still creeping
>>> down. Last week I asked our vet about Mirtazapine and our vet agreed
>>> to give us a prescription for it. I have to thank Robert for
>>> mentioning this in one of his posts.
>>>
>>> One day last week she didn't want to eat so I gave her a quarter pill
>>> (3.75 mg) which is the dose our vet prescribed to give her daily. The
>>> result was phenomenal and almost a little scary. She was bouncing off
>>> the walls within a few hours and eating everything she could get her
>>> paws on. I almost felt a little sorry for her because it was like she
>>> couldn't sit still for more than a couple of minutes. But it was like
>>> getting our old Curly back again in just a single day!
>>>
>>> The effect tapered off after a couple of days and we didn't feel
>>> comfortable giving her another dose until she stopped eating again
>>> because of how dramatic the change was. I've read online that a
>>> smaller dose could be effective if given every 72 hours so we are
>>> going to try doing that so she keeps eating. It was incredible to see
>>> her weight go up by a quarter pound in just a couple of days.
>>>
>>> We are continuing the Prednisolone and Winstrol at the recommended
>>> doses but our two week Doxycycline prescription ran out over a week
>>> ago. She does appear to still be making improvement without it but
>>> I'm wondering if I should ask for another prescription to keep that
>>> going as well.
>>>
>>> I always worry about giving her the quarter pill of Doxy because I
>>> know it can cause esophageal damage if it isn't followed by liquids.
>>> I was following the pill with the liquid Winstrol solution but wasn't
>>> sure if that was enough.
>>>
>>> Many thanks to everyone who gave us advice. It looks like we might
>>> have our Curly back for at least a while yet and it's all because of
>>> you people.
>>>
>>> Randy
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