[Felvtalk] Omega 3/Moxxor
ROBERT CHAPEL
bchapel at optonline.net
Thu Jan 12 05:11:57 CST 2017
While Omega 3's have a relatively solid reputation as useful in
inflammatory conditions.... Moxxor (recommended by a recent poster) is
$60.00 for 60 tabs on the company Website... For those individuals with
a lot of disposable income this might seem a reasonable investment in
their ( or their Kitties) health.... but... I can buy a months supply
of Doxy, or Prednisolone or Stanazole or any number of proven
medications for the same amount..... 60 dollars is a high price for a
non prescription health supplement to my mind ( Now... if I could easily
get my hands on 60 bucks worth of Green Lipped Mussels...which are not
frequently seen around my neighborhood... THAT I might spring for ( best
and largest mussels I have ever eaten!!)... The Pills, I am sure, don't
taste nearly as good : )
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> Thanks everyone for the awesome response and advice. We will be back
> at the
> vet on Friday for the next round of blood tests and I will discuss all
> options and your advice with the vet.
>
> I really am extremely grateful.
>
> Terri
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> On 11 Jan 2017 23:46, "ROBERT CHAPEL" wrote:
>
>> Nancy....
>>
>> In keeping with Amani's response...would be VERY interested to know
>> if the
>> cats ( with which you have had success) were ( are) FeLV+ per IFA....
>> or
>> FeLV at all.
>> Owners of FeLV Kitties can get desperate to find ANYTHING that might
>> help
>> their cats and can spend their way into oblivion with useless elixers
>> that
>> will leave them cash poor for the ( sometimes) more expensive drugs
>> that
>> stand a better chance of success.... Personally I can't imagine how
>> Omega
>> 3's are going to have any appreciable effect on depressed RBC's.
>> Aracept... as pointed out.... could be effective if the anemia is
>> regenerative....possibly harmful if not ( cats can respond with
>> antibodies
>> to Epo and the like with antibodies that further depress their blood
>> count....
>> If you have positive experience with the above would love to hear
>> about
>> it.... even better if you have any reference papers to point us to
>> regarding the successful use of Omega 3's in FeLV Kitties we would
>> ALL, I
>> am sure, be very interested as they are widely available and
>> certainly
>> reasonably priced ( generally)
>> thanks...
>>
>>
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>>> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:31:17 -0500
>>> From: gidget43 at aol.com
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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>>> I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot
>>> express how important it is to put your cats on an omega 3
>>> supplement.
>>> Moxxor is 100% pure. Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and
>>> kiwifruitseed
>>> oil. No preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs, or
>>> excipients of
>>> any kind. My two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock on wood have
>>> been doing
>>> well. They also take the Rx Vitamins for Pets ~ Liquid Immuno. All
>>> natural. For Moxxor, please please come join my FB page at
>>> https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/ to learn more
>>> about
>>> this. I swear by it for both me and for my two girls.
>>>
>>> Nancy
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>>> From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re:
>>> [Felvtalk] Omega 3s
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>>> Hi Nancy
>>>
>>> Were your cats in anemic crisis when you put them on the
>>> supplements, or
>>> were they positive for FeLV but not in crisis? I am interested to
>>> know if
>>> your supplements turned around severe non-regenerative anemia. I am
>>> sure I
>>> am not telling you anything new when I indicate that the problem is
>>> that if
>>> a cat is severely anemic and not producing his/her own red cells
>>> (low or
>>> insufficient reticulocytes) then there is very little time to
>>> address the
>>> crisis. Moreover, as I have posted before epogen, and other
>>> erythropoietin-type mimics, act on the red cell precursors in the
>>> bone
>>> marrow, signalling to them to produce more red cells. If the
>>> precursor
>>> cells are damaged or killed by the virus, which they often are, and
>>> that is
>>> why all three cell lines (red cells, white cells and platelets) are
>>> often
>>> affected, then no amount of erythropoietin, ?yelling? at a dead
>>> precursor
>>> cell, will get it to re-start red cell production. The only thing I
>>> have
>>> found that has a chance to do that is the Winstrol, co
>>> upled with the Doxycycline. The Winstrol promotes the development
>>> of
>>> bone marrow and has been found to be effective for conditions such
>>> as
>>> osteoporosis. It promotes the growth and increased density of bone.
>>>
>>> Were you able to restart bone marrow red cell production with the
>>> supplements you are referencing? I would be very interested to hear
>>> if that
>>> is the case since we certainly need as many weapons in our arsenal
>>> as
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Amani
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> gidget43 at aol.com
>>> Sent: January-11-17 12:31 PM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s
>>>
>>> I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot
>>> express how important it is to put your cats on an omega 3
>>> supplement.
>>> Moxxor is 100% pure. Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and
>>> kiwifruitseed
>>> oil. No preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs, or
>>> excipients of
>>> any kind. My two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock on wood have
>>> been doing
>>> well. They also take the Rx Vitamins for Pets ~ Liquid Immuno. All
>>> natural. For Moxxor, please please come join my FB page at
>>> https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/ to learn more
>>> about
>>> this. I swear by it for both me and for my two girls.
>>>
>>> Nancy
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> Terri I hope the best for your kitty cat Sandy W
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> From: "Terri Knight" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday,
> January 11, 2017 5:39:27 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest,
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> Thanks everyone for the awesome response and advice. We will be back
> at the vet on Friday for the next round of blood tests and I will
> discuss all options and your advice with the vet.
> I really am extremely grateful.
> Terri
> On 11 Jan 2017 23:46, "ROBERT CHAPEL" < bchapel at optonline.net > wrote:
>
> Nancy....
> In keeping with Amani's response...would be VERY interested to know if
> the cats ( with which you have had success) were ( are) FeLV+ per
> IFA.... or FeLV at all. Owners of FeLV Kitties can get desperate to
> find ANYTHING that might help their cats and can spend their way into
> oblivion with useless elixers that will leave them cash poor for the (
> sometimes) more expensive drugs that stand a better chance of
> success.... Personally I can't imagine how Omega 3's are going to have
> any appreciable effect on depressed RBC's. Aracept... as pointed
> out.... could be effective if the anemia is regenerative....possibly
> harmful if not ( cats can respond with antibodies to Epo and the like
> with antibodies that further depress their blood count.... If you have
> positive experience with the above would love to hear about it....
> even better if you have any reference papers to point us to regarding
> the successful use of Omega 3's in FeLV Kitties we would ALL, I am
> sure, be very interested as they are widely available and certainly
> reasonably priced ( generally) thanks...
>
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> I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot
> express how important it is to put your cats on an omega 3 supplement.
> Moxxor is 100% pure. Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and
> kiwifruitseed oil. No preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs,
> or excipients of any kind. My two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock on
> wood have been doing well. They also take the Rx Vitamins for Pets ~
> Liquid Immuno. All natural. For Moxxor, please please come join my FB
> page at https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/ to learn more
> about this. I swear by it for both me and for my two girls.
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> Message: 2 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:43:12 +0000 From: Amani Oakley
> To: " felvtalk at felineleukemia.org " Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s
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> Hi Nancy
> Were your cats in anemic crisis when you put them on the supplements,
> or were they positive for FeLV but not in crisis? I am interested to
> know if your supplements turned around severe non-regenerative anemia.
> I am sure I am not telling you anything new when I indicate that the
> problem is that if a cat is severely anemic and not producing his/her
> own red cells (low or insufficient reticulocytes) then there is very
> little time to address the crisis. Moreover, as I have posted before
> epogen, and other erythropoietin-type mimics, act on the red cell
> precursors in the bone marrow, signalling to them to produce more red
> cells. If the precursor cells are damaged or killed by the virus,
> which they often are, and that is why all three cell lines (red cells,
> white cells and platelets) are often affected, then no amount of
> erythropoietin, ?yelling? at a dead precursor cell, will get it to
> re-start red cell production. The only thing I have found that has a
> chance to do that is the Winstrol, co
> upled with the Doxycycline. The Winstrol promotes the development of
> bone marrow and has been found to be effective for conditions such as
> osteoporosis. It promotes the growth and increased density of bone.
> Were you able to restart bone marrow red cell production with the
> supplements you are referencing? I would be very interested to hear if
> that is the case since we certainly need as many weapons in our
> arsenal as possible.
> Thanks,
> Amani
> From: Felvtalk [mailto: felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org ] On
> Behalf Of gidget43 at aol.com Sent: January-11-17 12:31 PM To:
> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Omega 3s
> I'm sure this won't be allowed, but I must try anyways as I cannot
> express how important it is to put your cats on an omega 3 supplement.
> Moxxor is 100% pure. Green-lip mussel oil, grapeseed oil and
> kiwifruitseed oil. No preservatives, pesticides, GMOs, Mercury, PCBs,
> or excipients of any kind. My two FeLV cats are on Moxxor and knock on
> wood have been doing well. They also take the Rx Vitamins for Pets ~
> Liquid Immuno. All natural. For Moxxor, please please come join my FB
> page at https://www.facebook.com/moxxorforabetterlife/ to learn more
> about this. I swear by it for both me and for my two girls.
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