From ardyr at centurytel.net  Sun Dec  3 11:00:14 2017
From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 11:00:14 -0600
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question
In-Reply-To: <1579403846.314.1512041730543@wamui-napoleon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <1579403846.314.1512041730543@wamui-napoleon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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Margo - I don't know much about FIV - is that fatal as often as FeLV?

Thank you,
Ardy 

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:36 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question


Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other than by physical contact. 

Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission;

"FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies"

FelV spreads thru close friendly contact

FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are altered...right?)

Margo



-----Original Message-----
>From: dlgegg at windstream.net
>Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM
>To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
>
>Since the vet is not worried, why should you?  I thought about that when I took Annie in.
>
>---- Ardy Robertson <ardyr at centurytel.net> wrote: 
>> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed concerned about spreading it to the other patients.
>
>Ardy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>Of Theresa O'Rourke
>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM
>To: felinerescue at frontier.com; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
>
>Thank you Lorrie,
>
>So happy I joined this group.
>I?ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat?s, And clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after.
>However, I won?t do this again,
>Because I have other people?s cats in separate room and Won?t go through this again! ???? I?ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is NOT NECESSARY.
>IF it was just my cat?s, I have three of my own, I wouldn?t be so 
>neurotic. ?
>
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie <felinerescue at frontier.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This is my experience too.  I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9
>> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK.   These cats lived
>> with many other negative cats.  These were adult cats... I understand 
>> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully 
>> developed.
>> 
>> Lorrie
>> 
>>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote:
>>> 
>>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was 
>>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the 
>>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) 
>>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy 
>>> (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the 
>>> house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and 
>>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read 
>>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with 
>>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens.
>>> 
>>> Amani
>>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Felvtalk mailing list
>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or
>> g
>
>
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From ardyr at centurytel.net  Sun Dec  3 11:02:27 2017
From: ardyr at centurytel.net (Ardy Robertson)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 11:02:27 -0600
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question
In-Reply-To: <20171130072900.4IMVR.627.root@pamxwww03-z01>
References: <1579403846.314.1512041730543@wamui-napoleon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<20171130072900.4IMVR.627.root@pamxwww03-z01>
Message-ID: <004801d36c58$9850a460$c8f1ed20$@centurytel.net>

I try to do that too -- although I am surrounded by Amish farms who do not neuter their animals, and I have so many strays coming here - mostly for food. I do neuter as many as I can after they have been here for a while.

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlgegg at windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 6:29 AM
To: Margo <toomanykitties2 at earthlink.net>; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question

Re:  spay/neuter, First I give them 2 weeks for an owner to show up and then it is off to the vet for an exam and spay/neuter.  I do not want to be a contributor to unwanted kittens/puppies plus they will live longer healthier lives.

---- Margo <toomanykitties2 at earthlink.net> wrote: 
> 
Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other than by physical contact. 

Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission;

"FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies"

FelV spreads thru close friendly contact

FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are altered...right?)

Margo



-----Original Message-----
>From: dlgegg at windstream.net
>Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM
>To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
>
>Since the vet is not worried, why should you?  I thought about that when I took Annie in.
>
>---- Ardy Robertson <ardyr at centurytel.net> wrote: 
>> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed concerned about spreading it to the other patients.
>
>Ardy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>Of Theresa O'Rourke
>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM
>To: felinerescue at frontier.com; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
>
>Thank you Lorrie,
>
>So happy I joined this group.
>I?ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat?s, And clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after.
>However, I won?t do this again,
>Because I have other people?s cats in separate room and Won?t go through this again! ???? I?ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is NOT NECESSARY.
>IF it was just my cat?s, I have three of my own, I wouldn?t be so 
>neurotic. ?
>
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie <felinerescue at frontier.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This is my experience too.  I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9
>> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK.   These cats lived
>> with many other negative cats.  These were adult cats... I understand 
>> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully 
>> developed.
>> 
>> Lorrie
>> 
>>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote:
>>> 
>>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was 
>>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the 
>>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) 
>>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy 
>>> (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the 
>>> house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and 
>>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read 
>>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with 
>>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens.
>>> 
>>> Amani
>>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Felvtalk mailing list
>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or
>> g
>
>
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>
>
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>
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From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Sun Dec  3 12:25:58 2017
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:25:58 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question
In-Reply-To: <004701d36c58$35c2b130$a1481390$@centurytel.net>
References: <1579403846.314.1512041730543@wamui-napoleon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<004701d36c58$35c2b130$a1481390$@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <E0C1DFB06E10174B9D4AE353A62CECE3016704BFC6@OAKLEYSRV.oakley.local>

Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for afflicted cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary arsenal to combat it.

Amani

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson
Sent: December-03-17 12:00 PM
To: 'Margo'; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question

Margo - I don't know much about FIV - is that fatal as often as FeLV?

Thank you,
Ardy 

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:36 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question


Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other than by physical contact. 

Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission;

"FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies"

FelV spreads thru close friendly contact

FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are altered...right?)

Margo



-----Original Message-----
>From: dlgegg at windstream.net
>Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM
>To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
>
>Since the vet is not worried, why should you?  I thought about that when I took Annie in.
>
>---- Ardy Robertson <ardyr at centurytel.net> wrote: 
>> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed concerned about spreading it to the other patients.
>
>Ardy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>Of Theresa O'Rourke
>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM
>To: felinerescue at frontier.com; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
>
>Thank you Lorrie,
>
>So happy I joined this group.
>I?ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat?s, And clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after.
>However, I won?t do this again,
>Because I have other people?s cats in separate room and Won?t go through this again! ???? I?ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is NOT NECESSARY.
>IF it was just my cat?s, I have three of my own, I wouldn?t be so 
>neurotic. ?
>
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie <felinerescue at frontier.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This is my experience too.  I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9
>> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK.   These cats lived
>> with many other negative cats.  These were adult cats... I understand 
>> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully 
>> developed.
>> 
>> Lorrie
>> 
>>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote:
>>> 
>>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was 
>>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the 
>>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) 
>>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy 
>>> (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the 
>>> house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and 
>>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read 
>>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with 
>>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens.
>>> 
>>> Amani
>>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Felvtalk mailing list
>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or
>> g
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>
>
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>Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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From dlgegg at windstream.net  Sun Dec  3 16:02:38 2017
From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 16:02:38 -0600
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question
In-Reply-To: <E0C1DFB06E10174B9D4AE353A62CECE3016704BFC6@OAKLEYSRV.oakley.local>
Message-ID: <20171203170238.SRCTQ.6419.root@pamxwww01-z01>

Are vet schools doing much to find a cure?

---- Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
> Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for afflicted cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary arsenal to combat it.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson
> Sent: December-03-17 12:00 PM
> To: 'Margo'; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> 
> Margo - I don't know much about FIV - is that fatal as often as FeLV?
> 
> Thank you,
> Ardy 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:36 AM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> 
> 
> Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other than by physical contact. 
> 
> Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission;
> 
> "FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies"
> 
> FelV spreads thru close friendly contact
> 
> FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are altered...right?)
> 
> Margo
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: dlgegg at windstream.net
> >Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM
> >To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> >
> >Since the vet is not worried, why should you?  I thought about that when I took Annie in.
> >
> >---- Ardy Robertson <ardyr at centurytel.net> wrote: 
> >> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed concerned about spreading it to the other patients.
> >
> >Ardy
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> >Of Theresa O'Rourke
> >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM
> >To: felinerescue at frontier.com; felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question
> >
> >Thank you Lorrie,
> >
> >So happy I joined this group.
> >I?ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat?s, And clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after.
> >However, I won?t do this again,
> >Because I have other people?s cats in separate room and Won?t go through this again! ???? I?ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is NOT NECESSARY.
> >IF it was just my cat?s, I have three of my own, I wouldn?t be so 
> >neurotic. ?
> >
> >
> >Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie <felinerescue at frontier.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> This is my experience too.  I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9
> >> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK.   These cats lived
> >> with many other negative cats.  These were adult cats... I understand 
> >> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully 
> >> developed.
> >> 
> >> Lorrie
> >> 
> >>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was 
> >>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the 
> >>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) 
> >>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy 
> >>> (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the 
> >>> house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and 
> >>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read 
> >>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with 
> >>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens.
> >>> 
> >>> Amani
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Felvtalk mailing list
> >> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or
> >> g
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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> >Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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> >
> >
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> >Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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> >
> >
> >
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> 
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> 
> 
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From thyme2sail at gmail.com  Mon Dec 25 09:56:51 2017
From: thyme2sail at gmail.com (Pam Doore)
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 10:56:51 -0500
Subject: [Felvtalk] What are the dosages for
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What are the dosages for winsteral,doxycycline, and prednisone that I would
want to ask my vet for? Thank you!

Pam
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From merrykatmeows at email.com  Mon Dec 25 17:01:52 2017
From: merrykatmeows at email.com (kat)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 00:01:52 +0100
Subject: [Felvtalk] What are the dosages for
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From thyme2sail at gmail.com  Mon Dec 25 18:20:00 2017
From: thyme2sail at gmail.com (Pam Doore)
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 19:20:00 -0500
Subject: [Felvtalk] What are the dosages for
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From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Mon Dec 25 23:00:47 2017
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 05:00:47 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] What are the dosages for
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Hi Pam

Depending on how sick the cat is when you start the Winstrol ? either 1 mg of Winstrol 2x daily or 2 mg of Winstrol 2x daily if you need a faster response (ie ? no time to waste because the cat is doing very poorly).

Along with the Winstrol:

Doxycycline ? 25 mg two times a day
Prednisone ? 2.5 mg two times a day
? tablet of metoclopramide ? before meals if needed to help food go down and move through the intestinal tract well and to deal with any vomiting.

Amani


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore
Sent: December-25-17 10:57 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] What are the dosages for


What are the dosages for winsteral,doxycycline, and prednisone that I would want to ask my vet for? Thank you!

Pam
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From bchapel at optonline.net  Tue Dec 26 20:48:56 2017
From: bchapel at optonline.net (ROBERT CHAPEL)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 21:48:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Felvtalk] FIV
In-Reply-To: <mailman.79.1514264460.261136.felvtalk_felineleukemia.org@felineleukemia.org>
References: <mailman.79.1514264460.261136.felvtalk_felineleukemia.org@felineleukemia.org>
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I am again perplexed at the mail delivery for this group....? I've 
gotten nothing for a few weeks and just now THIS digest of messages..ALL 
of which I have received multiple times before.
Has there been other information going back and forth for the past 
couple of weeks??


HOWEVER:? In relation to FIV...?? it has clearly NOT been our experience 
at the shelter where I volunteer that FIV is any where near as deadly as 
FELV and we don't ever suggest that it is to potential adopters...
Our FIV'S range in age from 1 year to 8 yrs plus and oftentimes don't 
even get the URI that runs through the entire menagerie at the beginning 
of Winter.... I've been volunteering there for 4 years and have seen 
only one of our FIV's die and that from the scourge of FIV's ( Feline 
Infectious Peritonitis) thankfully it did not claim any others ( until 
months later when a couple of FeLV residents died)... but, in general, 
our FIV's have remained quite healthy....? Personally, I would be FAR 
more confident of the future adopting an FIV over an FeLV Kitty
QUESTION:

?----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:25:58 +0000
> From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: 
> [Felvtalk] Question
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> Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for 
> afflicted cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary 
> arsenal to combat it.
>
> Amani



From aoakley at oakleylegal.com  Tue Dec 26 22:07:39 2017
From: aoakley at oakleylegal.com (Amani Oakley)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 04:07:39 +0000
Subject: [Felvtalk] FIV
In-Reply-To: <153d54b2.3346.16095df6e39.Webtop.34@optonline.net>
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Hi Bob

I have only seen two other posts this past week, other than one I posted in reply to one of those two posts. Other than that, I haven't received any emails in weeks.

Amani

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL
Sent: December-26-17 9:49 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV

I am again perplexed at the mail delivery for this group....? I've gotten nothing for a few weeks and just now THIS digest of messages..ALL of which I have received multiple times before.
Has there been other information going back and forth for the past couple of weeks??


HOWEVER:? In relation to FIV...?? it has clearly NOT been our experience at the shelter where I volunteer that FIV is any where near as deadly as FELV and we don't ever suggest that it is to potential adopters...
Our FIV'S range in age from 1 year to 8 yrs plus and oftentimes don't even get the URI that runs through the entire menagerie at the beginning of Winter.... I've been volunteering there for 4 years and have seen only one of our FIV's die and that from the scourge of FIV's ( Feline Infectious Peritonitis) thankfully it did not claim any others ( until months later when a couple of FeLV residents died)... but, in general, our FIV's have remained quite healthy....? Personally, I would be FAR more confident of the future adopting an FIV over an FeLV Kitty
QUESTION:

?----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:25:58 +0000
> From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: 
> [Felvtalk] Question
> Message-ID:
> 	
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for 
> afflicted cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary 
> arsenal to combat it.
>
> Amani


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From felinerescue at frontier.com  Wed Dec 27 08:33:47 2017
From: felinerescue at frontier.com (Lorrie)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 09:33:47 -0500
Subject: [Felvtalk] FIV
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I've not seen any posts for weeks, until a few days ago.
I hope this means all our cats are doing well.

BTW - FIV is not at all as dangerous a FelV.

I hope more people adopt these FIV cats, but unfortunately the average
person, who is not well informed, is is just as afraid of FIV.


Lorrie

On 12-27, Amani Oakley wrote:
> Hi Bob
> 
> I have only seen two other posts this past week, other than one I
> posted in reply to one of those two posts. Other than that, I
> haven't received any emails in weeks.
> 
> Amani


From dlgegg at windstream.net  Wed Dec 27 08:41:54 2017
From: dlgegg at windstream.net (dlgegg at windstream.net)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 8:41:54 -0600
Subject: [Felvtalk] FIV
In-Reply-To: <20171227143347.GA816@lnx12.netgear.com>
Message-ID: <20171227094154.PXG7R.4017.root@pamxwww01-z01>

tHE ONLY PROBLEM MY GUYS HAVE IS BOREDOM.  iT HAS BEEN COLD, SNOWY AND WINDY.  HARLEY WHO USUALLY GOES OUT NO MATTER WHAT JUST GOES TO THE DOOR, THE WIND HITS HIM AND HE BACKS UP.  WE HAVE LOTS OF AMAZON BOXES, TUNNELS AND A LIGHT TO CHASE.

---- Lorrie <felinerescue at frontier.com> wrote: 
> 
> I've not seen any posts for weeks, until a few days ago.
> I hope this means all our cats are doing well.
> 
> BTW - FIV is not at all as dangerous a FelV.
> 
> I hope more people adopt these FIV cats, but unfortunately the average
> person, who is not well informed, is is just as afraid of FIV.
> 
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> On 12-27, Amani Oakley wrote:
> > Hi Bob
> > 
> > I have only seen two other posts this past week, other than one I
> > posted in reply to one of those two posts. Other than that, I
> > haven't received any emails in weeks.
> > 
> > Amani
> 
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From j13w0lson at gmail.com  Wed Dec 27 09:04:15 2017
From: j13w0lson at gmail.com (Jennifer Olson)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 09:04:15 -0600
Subject: [Felvtalk] Merry Christmas & Happy Anniversary wishes
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December 22nd marked the beginning of our 2nd yr with Figaro in our lives.
He is healthy, but a bit heavy- the kind of weight gain common after being
neutered. Have yet to get him integrated into the clan, so each of us
"bipedals" lavish Figaro with various kinds of attention... of course I'M
the "Mama" so Figaro and I do lots of grooming & cuddling!
Much admiration goes out to all of you, whose loving strength enriches the
lives of precious fur-babies, for as long as we are able!
Jen
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