[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

Amani Oakley aoakley at oakleylegal.com
Wed Sep 28 22:55:03 CDT 2016 

Yes Ardy. The doxycycline has been found to interfere with RNA replication which is how viruses reproduce.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson
Sent: September-28-16 11:46 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

Hi Sherri,
Have you tried approaching your vet with the explanation that you heard that doxycycline stops the FeLV virus from, I believe, replicating? Amani - is that the terminology? Anyway, maybe your vet has not heard about this and may be curious enough to let you try it. I really feel the Winstrol course of treatment would benefit from doxy and the prednisolone.
Just a suggestion - I know vets can be egotistical and stubborn.
Ardy

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 6:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

Elizabeth, I am so sorry you are having such trouble getting your vet to try the meds. I can say personally that in my situation with Bogey, it DOES work. She is feeling so much better. I cannot get my vet to prescribe Doxycycline though and don't feel like I can push the issue. He has a fragile ego I think and I do not want to jeopardize him prescribing the Stanzolol to me. It is a dilemma for all of us I think with our vets.

I do so hope you can find someone in your area that is willing to try the Winstrol/Stanzolol. Changing vets is a nightmare I know and have been down that road myself. But if your current vet still resists and won't even try, I would be trying to find another. Do you have a teaching hospital in your area? Purdue University (School of Veterinary Science) here in Indiana I know goes above and beyond when you take your pet to them...I know this first hand as well for another situation I was in with a dog several years ago.

I so wish you luck. Don't give up.

Sherri



From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>> on behalf of Liz McCarty <emccarty44 at gmail.com<mailto:emccarty44 at gmail.com>>
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I spoke with the vet this evening and she said Winstrol doesn't work and actually can have negative side effects. I also didn't tell her I had already started him back on the doxycycline but she said she would prefer instead he see the regular vet to see what's going on with his eye. Since the doxycycline his eyes look normal again! I don't sense the same urgency that I have in this vet, although she is better than the first who just said to euthanize. Any ideas how to search FeLV specialists? I've Googled for my area but nothing comes up. I live in San Jose Ca

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438

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Today's Topics:

   1. Looking for advice (Liz McCarty)
   2. Re: Looking for advice (Amani Oakley)
   3. Re: Looking for advice (Ashley Egger)
   4. Re: Looking for advice (Ardy Robertson)


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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:33:47 -0700
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I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well.
I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken
with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye
is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though.
I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure
about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment
scheduled for 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment
they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion
to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a
shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him
to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this if
it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:43:30 +0000
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Hi Elizabeth

Only you can say what is right for your little guy. However, I personally would try the Winstrol and see what response you get with that. You already had a better response with the Doxycycline, so there is still some hope. Absolutely steel yourself though, because it is quite likely that your vet will start pushing for euthanasia if that hasn?t already been suggested. We?ve all had to deal with that pressure from the vets, on this chatline. Resist taking him off the doxycycline and get him on the Winstrol if at all possible. Winstrol has the potential of a quick effect, so you won?t have to wait weeks and weeks to see if there is a positive effect, especially if you draw bloodwork before he starts on the Winstrol. You can often see some quick changes in the haematology profile.

Giving him another transfusion will also give some time for different things to work, but again, if you aren?t seeing a discernable boost from the Interferon alone, don?t put all your eggs in that basket. Keep him on it if you like, but try to get the vet to give you the Winstrol as well.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>] On Behalf Of Liz McCarty
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice


I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well. I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though. I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment scheduled for 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this if it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:28:54 -0500
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Liz, I don't really have anything to add but just want to say I'm so sorry you and Hodor are having to go through this. I will be keeping Hodor in my thoughts and prayers!

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> On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Liz McCarty <emccarty44 at gmail.com<mailto:emccarty44 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well. I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though. I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment scheduled for 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this if it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.
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> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:37:50 -0500
From: "Ardy Robertson" <ardyr at centurytel.net<mailto:ardyr at centurytel.net>>
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Hi Ashley,



If it isn?t too late for him the Winstrol is fabulous at helping build up his blood. My Tigger?s blood work got so much better the pathologist reran the testing process because he couldn?t believe what he was seeing in the results. I did lose Tigg but I feel it was because I started the Winstrol too late. Tigger had the one week on / one week off of the interferon for about 2 months, and his blood declined while on it. But I suppose all cats are different. I just wish I had started the Winstrol and Prednisolone along with the Doxy much earlier. I too didn?t want him to suffer but I don?t feel he suffered. Whatever you decide, you are doing your best for him.



Best of luck to you and Hodor.

Ardy



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