[Felvtalk] Stray taming was/Re: Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

Wed Sep 28 22:43:15 CDT 2016

Hi Margo,

As far as I know he is not neutered, I’m not even sure he is a “he”……but he just seems like a big tomcat. And the other stray – Cally – is a female who showed up pregnant so after she had her babies I found homes for them and had her spayed. One reason I think he is a boy is that he gets along with Cally very well. I am hoping she will allow him to sleep in the shelter that we made for her for the winter. It is inside a carport, and is very well insulated and has a nice bed in it.

It is just baffling……… I have tamed stray cats all my life, and this guy just won’t trust me. We do have some farms around here that have an alternative-culture of people who believe that cats are rodents and their only purpose is to hunt mice. These people do kick cats out of their way, and they never ever play with a cat – and they teach their children to never get near a cat except to kick it. Many of them are very cruel to their dogs too – the dogs are only used for working with cattle, and possibly as a watch dog. I am very mild mannered, but I threatened to call the police on one gentleman who I witnessed beating a dog. He moved shortly after that. I mentioned to one of these folks that we had spent several thousand dollars on our cat Tigger, and he almost fell over. So as skiddish as “Wild Thing” is, I am wondering if he wandered to our house from one of those farms, and that may be why he simply does not trust people.

I will check out the feral cat group you suggested….. thank you!!

Ardy

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 6:04 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Stray taming was/Re: Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

Dear Ardy,

             Try joining the yahoo feral cat group. The group is undergoing changes, but they should have some really spot-on suggestions for you, these people know their stuff!

https://beta.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/feral_cats/info

              I'm guessing he's not neutered?

Thanks for helping,

Margo 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ardy Robertson 
Sent: Sep 27, 2016 10:50 PM 
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone.... 

Speaking of feral cats, we have one that has been coming to our house for about a year to be fed. Sometimes he goes about two weeks without showing up and then I worry about him. Most of the time he comes morning and night for food. But this is one cat I absolutely cannot get close to. I can sometimes put food in the dish with him on our step, and once I thought I could pet him while he was eating – NOT – he bolted. We call him “Wild Thing” and he is friends with our Cally who is also an outdoor stray. Any ideas on making friends with him? I do talk to him when I am outside and I show him that Cally likes to be petted, but he keeps his distance.

Ardy

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sandy
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:42 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

I agree with Amani on the eye removal. I have a rescue semi-feral kitty cat with only one eye - had to remove her from her outside colony when that was done - she is now the sweetest girl - still semi-feral.  I have used CareCredit for help with my vet bills - I too am on a very fixed income.   I know this will work out - don't give up hope

Sandy W

  _____  

From: "Amani Oakley" <aoakley at oakleylegal.com <mailto:aoakley at oakleylegal.com> >
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:47:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

Robert

I recommend that you have the vet surgically remove the eye. You would be surprised at how quickly a cat will adjust to this, and the pain will stop immediately. I had this experience with one of my cats, who also had severe uveitis when I got her, and there was just nothing that worked, and the eye was really bad.

In the meantime, there are two techniques you might want to try to help with pain and controlling infection:

1.        Try putting contact lens saline in the eyes. This is soothing and has a tiny bit of disinfectant which is obviously safe for the eyes;
2.        Try putting a used tea bag (warm) on the eye. Only use it once before discarding it.

Also, ask the vet for buprenorphine in a transdermal cream. This will help tremendously with the pain. Get the vet to obtain it from a compounding pharmacy. 

Amani

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL
Sent: September-25-16 3:06 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
Cc: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy (
Yogi) through....  I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had something causing him pain at least 5 of them......   I put him on high doses of ocular Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe Uveitis( bilateral but worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would likely have to be given chronically....VERY unfortunately he developed a huge corneal abrasion ( Green dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)... Now I've got the poor little guy on atropine and two antibiotics three times a day in hopes of keeping the eye from rupturing..... This on top of his continuing to lose weight despite healthy appetite and still with some blood in the stool.....   The BIG problem in the moment is that I really can't put him back on topical corticosteroids if it is going to do this to him..... but.....when I tried to back off them before his Uveitis returned..... There is a good chance it will return again.....     Has anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for a cats eye inflammation that is not a corticosteroid??       I'll be frank....   this little guy is using up every single dime and then some of my retirement " disposable" income and I simply won't be able to afford him pretty soon if I don't figure something out..... beyond that... it is just too sad seeing him constantly suffering with one malady after another....   Winstrol is not going to happen unless I go from Vet to Vet and hope I can find one that will work with me but.... I honestly don't hold out a lot of hope for this guy.... He started getting sick very young and it's not gotten any better.....  My other guy is holding his own and I haven't had him to the vet more than once for an upper respiratory infection.....   I'm not just going to wait for the little guy to pass.....  I'm thinking that if the Uveitis returns and there is nothing that will control it besides corticosteroids I'm going to let him go..... He's just always hurting.... Hasn't been able to be a kitten for more than a few weeks since I brought him home .... Add to this that my quality of life is pretty crappy at this point as I can take very little time away from home....   I'd spend thousands that I don't have if I had any assurance that it would make a difference but not just to keep him " functional" until he fades away while his life becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly blind.... sleeping and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who still wants to play.... His " better" eye does not appear to be very functional which leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him.....   I sometimes separate them when I am out of the house but it appears that he prefers being out in the entire house even with the risk of the other guy.... Figure for the time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as long as it's not too dangerous......
But back to the original question..... any thought or experiences with anti Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly that are not Corticosteroids.......

thanks for any thoughts..
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 01:00 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org> 
wrote:

> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to
>         felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>          
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>         felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org> 
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>         felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk-owner at felineleukemia.org> 
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific 
> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Hodor Declining (Sandy)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 16:39:49 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Sandy To: Margo , felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
> Message-ID:
>         <1801968575.6383755.1474821589502.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net <mailto:1801968575.6383755.1474821589502.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
> listen to Amani!! Sandy W ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Margo"  To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>  Sent: Sunday, September 
> 25, 2016 6:58:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
>
>
>
>
> I never had expected the Interferon to cause red cell or hematocrit 
> changes. Where can I find information about that?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Margo
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Amani Oakley Sent: Sep 25, 2016 12:25 
> AM To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> " Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor 
> Declining
>
>
> Elizabeth
>
>
> My experience was that the interferon did absolutely nothing for my 
> Zander. I checked his blood work weekly to track what was happening, 
> and even though I left him on it for several months (with blood 
> transfusions, to ensure there was a chance for it to work), there was 
> no effect at all on the red blood cells or haematocrit.
>
>
> Do not wait if you don?t see improvement. My strong suggestion is to 
> put him back on the doxycycline and try again for some Winstrol.
>
>
> Amani
>
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Liz McCarty Sent: September-25-16 12:20 AM To:
> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>  Subject: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
>
>
>
> Hey... Hodor was pretty steady and eating well, good energy... Until 
> Wednesday. Since then be seems to not have enough energy to move very 
> far. Not eating well, or drinking well. One of his eyes started 
> tearing occasionally. He still gets excited about treats and a water 
> bottle we freeze for him that he likes to lick. He has been on 
> interferon for 2 weeks... This past week was his 7 days off. He 
> started back last night. Has anyone had interferon experience and seen 
> their cats drop on the week off? Any suggestions? I don't want to lose 
> him. We are also giving him prednisone, Pet Tinic and Dmg.
> I don't think the URI cleared before they stopped his doxycycline... 
> Even though I expressed concern they said stop for now... I want to 
> start him again....any thoughts? I don't think his immune system needs 
> this extra stress! He was doing so well when he had the doxycycline.
> Thank you.
> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list 
> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>  
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was 
> scrubbed...
> URL:
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
> _______________________________________________
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 27
> ****************************************
>

_______________________________________________
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
_______________________________________________
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20160928/b79fea26/attachment-0001.html>