[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

Wed Sep 28 06:52:18 CDT 2016

Elizabeth, I am so sorry you are having such trouble getting your vet to try
the meds. I can say personally that in my situation with Bogey, it DOES
work. She is feeling so much better. I cannot get my vet to prescribe
Doxycycline though and don¹t feel like I can push the issue. He has a
fragile ego I think and I do not want to jeopardize him prescribing the
Stanzolol to me. It is a dilemma for all of us I think with our vets.

I do so hope you can find someone in your area that is willing to try the
Winstrol/Stanzolol. Changing vets is a nightmare I know and have been down
that road myself. But if your current vet still resists and won¹t even try,
I would be trying to find another. Do you have a teaching hospital in your
area? Purdue University (School of Veterinary Science) here in Indiana I
know goes above and beyond when you take your pet to themŠI know this first
hand as well for another situation I was in with a dog several years ago.

I so wish you luck. Don¹t give up.

Sherri

From:  Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> on behalf of Liz
McCarty <emccarty44 at gmail.com>
Reply-To:  <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Date:  Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 10:48 PM
To:  <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Subject:  Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

I spoke with the vet this evening and she said Winstrol doesn't work and
actually can have negative side effects. I also didn't tell her I had
already started him back on the doxycycline but she said she would prefer
instead he see the regular vet to see what's going on with his eye. Since
the doxycycline his eyes look normal again! I don't sense the same urgency
that I have in this vet, although she is better than the first who just said
to euthanize. Any ideas how to search FeLV specialists? I've Googled for my
area but nothing comes up. I live in San Jose Ca

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438

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> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:33:47 -0700
> From: Liz McCarty <emccarty44 at gmail.com>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice
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> I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well.
> I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken
> with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye
> is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though.
> I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure
> about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment
> scheduled for 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
> weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment
> they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion
> to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a
> shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him
> to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this if
> it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.
> 
> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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> From: Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
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> Hi Elizabeth
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> Only you can say what is right for your little guy. However, I personally
> would try the Winstrol and see what response you get with that. You already
> had a better response with the Doxycycline, so there is still some hope.
> Absolutely steel yourself though, because it is quite likely that your vet
> will start pushing for euthanasia if that hasn?t already been suggested. We?ve
> all had to deal with that pressure from the vets, on this chatline. Resist
> taking him off the doxycycline and get him on the Winstrol if at all possible.
> Winstrol has the potential of a quick effect, so you won?t have to wait weeks
> and weeks to see if there is a positive effect, especially if you draw
> bloodwork before he starts on the Winstrol. You can often see some quick
> changes in the haematology profile.
> 
> Giving him another transfusion will also give some time for different things
> to work, but again, if you aren?t seeing a discernable boost from the
> Interferon alone, don?t put all your eggs in that basket. Keep him on it if
> you like, but try to get the vet to give you the Winstrol as well.
> 
> Amani
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> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Liz
> McCarty
> Sent: September-27-16 2:34 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice
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> 
> I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well. I
> went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken with
> the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye is
> looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though. I
> want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure about
> his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment scheduled for
> 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating weeks on and weeks
> off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment they will ask us to
> euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion to see if the
> interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a shot? Or should we
> accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him to suffer, and I
> don't want to put him through another round of this if it's inhumane, but I
> don't want to lose him. Thanks.
> 
> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:28:54 -0500
> From: Ashley Egger <ashleyeegger at gmail.com>
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> Liz, I don't really have anything to add but just want to say I'm so sorry you
> and Hodor are having to go through this. I will be keeping Hodor in my
> thoughts and prayers!
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>> > On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Liz McCarty <emccarty44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well.
>> I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken
>> with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye is
>> looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though. I
>> want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure about
>> his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment scheduled for
>> 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating weeks on and weeks
>> off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment they will ask us to
>> euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion to see if the
>> interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a shot? Or should we
>> accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him to suffer, and I
>> don't want to put him through another round of this if it's inhumane, but I
>> don't want to lose him. Thanks.
>> >
>> > Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
>> >
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> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:37:50 -0500
> From: "Ardy Robertson" <ardyr at centurytel.net>
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> Hi Ashley,
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> 
> If it isn?t too late for him the Winstrol is fabulous at helping build up his
> blood. My Tigger?s blood work got so much better the pathologist reran the
> testing process because he couldn?t believe what he was seeing in the results.
> I did lose Tigg but I feel it was because I started the Winstrol too late.
> Tigger had the one week on / one week off of the interferon for about 2
> months, and his blood declined while on it. But I suppose all cats are
> different. I just wish I had started the Winstrol and Prednisolone along with
> the Doxy much earlier. I too didn?t want him to suffer but I don?t feel he
> suffered. Whatever you decide, you are doing your best for him.
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> Best of luck to you and Hodor.
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> Ardy
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