[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 38
ROBERT CHAPEL
bchapel at optonline.net
Wed Sep 28 04:08:26 CDT 2016
Liz....
Personally...I think death is a rather negative side effect of NOT
trying everything possible.... I do NOT understand the reluctance of
Vets to prescribe drugs that they generally do not use if they are not
offering any viable alternative...... My Yogi, for eg, is going
blind....One Vet, understandably, didn't want to use prednisolone for
his very severe uveitis because it has the potential to cause a variety
of eye problems....OK.... I understand..BUT she was not offering any
alternative....it is SO darn frustrating... another vet in the practice
did prescribe prednisolone and it worked marvelously for 4 months and
brought him back from near total blindness..... Sadly... he developed a
severe corneal ulcer and ist looking now( since I've had to D/C the
prednisolone( that the Uveitis is returning along with having a corneal
ulcer..... I could have NOT used the pred... but he would have been in
terrible pain the entire time AND blind.... On balance I could not be
happier that I was able to give him a few months more of vision......
Now we are really at an impasse..... Point is... a lot of vets are
quite closed minded and if you have the money shop vets until you find
one that WILL work with you..ask anyone and everyone that has a FeLV
cat... or any cat with complicated problems ( people with generally
healthy cats who tell you they love their vets are legion....ANY vet can
easily handle a healthy cat with minor issues occasionally.... how they
handle the complicated problem cases is what is important..... I know
the frustration and sadness of trying to get you boy back on track and
having to battle the damn vet in order to do this just adds another
level of stress..... I'm sorry for your trouble and wish you both the
best....
Bob
Warwick NY
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> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:35:38 -0500
> From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and
> Prednisolone....
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> I had a blind cat (Dodsie) who lived to be 19. Since she already knew
> our house, she adjusted to being blind so well. She walked around
> rooms close to the outer walls, almost touching them. She was able to
> go downstairs to use the litter box and come back up with no problem.
> I of course kept her bed close to the wall so no one would step on
> her. I think we felt sorrier for her than she did...she adjusted so
> well and it really didn't seem to bother her and we knew she was
> totally blind in both eyes. She responded to our voice just like
> before. She was an only cat so that probably helped her feel secure.
> And thankfully when she left us, she just went to sleep one afternoon
> and did not wake up.
>
> Ardy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of Amani Oakley
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 10:47 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....
>
> Robert
>
> I recommend that you have the vet surgically remove the eye. You would
> be surprised at how quickly a cat will adjust to this, and the pain
> will stop immediately. I had this experience with one of my cats, who
> also had severe uveitis when I got her, and there was just nothing
> that worked, and the eye was really bad.
>
> In the meantime, there are two techniques you might want to try to
> help with pain and controlling infection:
>
> 1. Try putting contact lens saline in the eyes. This is soothing and
> has a tiny bit of disinfectant which is obviously safe for the eyes;
> 2. Try putting a used tea bag (warm) on the eye. Only use it once
> before discarding it.
>
> Also, ask the vet for buprenorphine in a transdermal cream. This will
> help tremendously with the pain. Get the vet to obtain it from a
> compounding pharmacy.
> Amani
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: September-25-16 3:06 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Cc: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....
>
>
> I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy (
> Yogi) through.... I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had something
> causing him pain at least 5 of them...... I put him on high doses of
> ocular Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe Uveitis(
> bilateral but worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would likely
> have to be given chronically....VERY unfortunately he developed a huge
> corneal abrasion ( Green dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)...
> Now I've got the poor little guy on atropine and two antibiotics three
> times a day in hopes of keeping the eye from rupturing..... This on
> top of his continuing to lose weight despite healthy appetite and
> still with some blood in the stool..... The BIG problem in the
> moment is that I really can't put him back on topical corticosteroids
> if it is going to do this to him..... but.....when I tried to back off
> them before his Uveitis returned..... There is a good chance it will
> return again..... Has anyone ever heard of anything that might be
> used for a cats
> eye inflammation that is not a corticosteroid?? I'll be
> frank.... this little guy is using up every single dime and then
> some of my retirement " disposable" income and I simply won't be able
> to afford him pretty soon if I don't figure something out..... beyond
> that... it is just too sad seeing him constantly suffering with one
> malady after another.... Winstrol is not going to happen unless I go
> from Vet to Vet and hope I can find one that will work with me but....
> I honestly don't hold out a lot of hope for this guy.... He started
> getting sick very young and it's not gotten any better..... My other
> guy is holding his own and I haven't had him to the vet more than once
> for an upper respiratory infection..... I'm not just going to wait
> for the little guy to pass..... I'm thinking that if the Uveitis
> returns and there is nothing that will control it besides
> corticosteroids I'm going to let him go..... He's just always
> hurting.... Hasn't been able to be a kitten f
> or more than a few weeks since I brought him home .... Add to this
> that my quality of life is pretty crappy at this point as I can take
> very little time away from home.... I'd spend thousands that I don't
> have if I had any assurance that it would make a difference but not
> just to keep him " functional" until he fades away while his life
> becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly blind....
> sleeping and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who
> still wants to play.... His " better" eye does not appear to be very
> functional which leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump
> him..... I sometimes separate them when I am out of the house but it
> appears that he prefers being out in the entire house even with the
> risk of the other guy.... Figure for the time he has I'll let him do
> as he prefers as long as it's not too dangerous......
> But back to the original question..... any thought or experiences with
> anti Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly that are not
> Corticosteroids.......
>
> thanks for any thoughts..
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>> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 16:39:49 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Sandy To: Margo , felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
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>> listen to Amani!! Sandy W ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Margo" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday,
>> September 25, 2016 6:58:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I never had expected the Interferon to cause red cell or hematocrit
>> changes. Where can I find information about that?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Margo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Amani Oakley Sent: Sep 25, 2016
>> 12:25 AM To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]
>> Hodor Declining
>>
>>
>> Elizabeth
>>
>>
>> My experience was that the interferon did absolutely nothing for my
>> Zander. I checked his blood work weekly to track what was happening,
>> and even though I left him on it for several months (with blood
>> transfusions, to ensure there was a chance for it to work), there was
>> no effect at all on the red blood cells or haematocrit.
>>
>>
>> Do not wait if you don?t see improvement. My strong suggestion is to
>> put him back on the doxycycline and try again for some Winstrol.
>>
>>
>> Amani
>>
>>
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>> Of Liz McCarty Sent: September-25-16 12:20 AM To:
>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey... Hodor was pretty steady and eating well, good energy... Until
>> Wednesday. Since then be seems to not have enough energy to move very
>> far. Not eating well, or drinking well. One of his eyes started
>> tearing occasionally. He still gets excited about treats and a water
>> bottle we freeze for him that he likes to lick. He has been on
>> interferon for 2 weeks... This past week was his 7 days off. He
>> started back last night. Has anyone had interferon experience and
>> seen their cats drop on the week off? Any suggestions? I don't want
>> to lose him. We are also giving him prednisone, Pet Tinic and Dmg.
>> I don't think the URI cleared before they stopped his doxycycline...
>> Even though I expressed concern they said stop for now... I want to
>> start him again....any thoughts? I don't think his immune system
>> needs this extra stress! He was doing so well when he had the
>> doxycycline.
>> Thank you.
>> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:42:10 -0500
> From: "Ardy Robertson" To: "'Margo'" ,
>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....
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> Buprenorphine really helped Tigger when he was in pain, but we
> actually cut the dose down to the smallest amount that would work. I
> think we used about 1/3 of the prescribed dose.
> Ardy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of Margo
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 5:55 AM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....
>
>
>
> Amani,
>
> Is there an advantage to transdermal buprenorphine? I thought it
> was best/quickest absorbed muscosally?
> Margo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Amani Oakley Sent: Sep 25, 2016 11:47 PM
>> To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye
>> Problems and Prednisolone....
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> I recommend that you have the vet surgically remove the eye. You
>> would be surprised at how quickly a cat will adjust to this, and the
>> pain will stop immediately. I had this experience with one of my
>> cats, who also had severe uveitis when I got her, and there was just
>> nothing that worked, and the eye was really bad.
>>
>> In the meantime, there are two techniques you might want to try to
>> help with pain and controlling infection:
>>
>> 1. Try putting contact lens saline in the eyes. This is soothing and
>> has a tiny bit of disinfectant which is obviously safe for the eyes;
>> 2. Try putting a used tea bag (warm) on the eye. Only use it once
>> before discarding it.
>>
>> Also, ask the vet for buprenorphine in a transdermal cream. This will
>> help tremendously with the pain. Get the vet to obtain it from a
>> compounding pharmacy.
>> Amani
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
>> Sent: September-25-16 3:06 PM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Cc: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....
>>
>>
>> I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy (
>> Yogi) through.... I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had
>> something causing him pain at least 5 of them...... I put him on
>> high doses of ocular Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a
>> severe Uveitis( bilateral but worse in the right eye) and the Vet
>> said it would likely have to be given chronically....VERY
>> unfortunately he developed a huge corneal abrasion ( Green dye uptake
>> involved almost his etire eye)... Now I've got the poor little guy on
>> atropine and two antibiotics three times a day in hopes of keeping
>> the eye from rupturing..... This on top of his continuing to lose
>> weight despite healthy appetite and still with some blood in the
>> stool..... The BIG problem in the moment is that I really can't put
>> him back on topical corticosteroids if it is going to do this to
>> him..... but.....when I tried to back off them before his Uveitis
>> returned..... There is a good chance it will return again.....
>> Has anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for a cat
> s eye inflammation that is not a corticosteroid?? I'll be
> frank.... this little guy is using up every single dime and then
> some of my retirement " disposable" income and I simply won't be able
> to afford him pretty soon if I don't figure something out..... beyond
> that... it is just too sad seeing him constantly suffering with one
> malady after another.... Winstrol is not going to happen unless I go
> from Vet to Vet and hope I can find one that will work with me but....
> I honestly don't hold out a lot of hope for this guy.... He started
> getting sick very young and it's not gotten any better..... My other
> guy is holding his own and I haven't had him to the vet more than once
> for an upper respiratory infection..... I'm not just going to wait
> for the little guy to pass..... I'm thinking that if the Uveitis
> returns and there is nothing that will control it besides
> corticosteroids I'm going to let him go..... He's just always
> hurting.... Hasn't been able to be a kitten for more than a few weeks
> since I brought him home .... Add to this that my quality of life is
> pretty crappy at this point as I can take very little time away from
> home.... I'd spend thousands that I don't have if I had any
> assurance that it would make a difference but not just to keep him "
> functional" until he fades away while his life becomes enduring
> constant medication... being nearly blind.... sleeping and eating and
> avoiding the advances of his house mate who still wants to play....
> His " better" eye does not appear to be very functional which leaves
> him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him..... I sometimes
> separate them when I am out of the house but it appears that he
> prefers being out in the entire house even with the risk of the other
> guy.... Figure for the time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as
> long as it's not too dangerous......
>> But back to the original question..... any thought or experiences
>> with anti Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly that are
>> not Corticosteroids.......
>>
>> thanks for any thoughts..
>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 01:00 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org
>> wrote:
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 16:39:49 +0000 (UTC)
>>> From: Sandy To: Margo , felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
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>>>
>>> listen to Amani!! Sandy W ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: "Margo" To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday,
>>> September 25, 2016 6:58:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor
>>> Declining
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I never had expected the Interferon to cause red cell or hematocrit
>>> changes. Where can I find information about that?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Margo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Amani Oakley Sent: Sep 25, 2016
>>> 12:25 AM To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]
>>> Hodor Declining
>>>
>>>
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>>
>>> My experience was that the interferon did absolutely nothing for my
>>> Zander. I checked his blood work weekly to track what was happening,
>>> and even though I left him on it for several months (with blood
>>> transfusions, to ensure there was a chance for it to work), there
>>> was no effect at all on the red blood cells or haematocrit.
>>>
>>>
>>> Do not wait if you don?t see improvement. My strong suggestion is to
>>> put him back on the doxycycline and try again for some Winstrol.
>>>
>>>
>>> Amani
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Liz McCarty Sent: September-25-16 12:20 AM To:
>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey... Hodor was pretty steady and eating well, good energy... Until
>>> Wednesday. Since then be seems to not have enough energy to move
>>> very far. Not eating well, or drinking well. One of his eyes started
>>> tearing occasionally. He still gets excited about treats and a water
>>> bottle we freeze for him that he likes to lick. He has been on
>>> interferon for 2 weeks... This past week was his 7 days off. He
>>> started back last night. Has anyone had interferon experience and
>>> seen their cats drop on the week off? Any suggestions? I don't want
>>> to lose him. We are also giving him prednisone, Pet Tinic and Dmg.
>>> I don't think the URI cleared before they stopped his doxycycline...
>>> Even though I expressed concern they said stop for now... I want to
>>> start him again....any thoughts? I don't think his immune system
>>> needs this extra stress! He was doing so well when he had the
>>> doxycycline.
>>> Thank you.
>>> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 19:48:03 -0700
> From: Liz McCarty To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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> I spoke with the vet this evening and she said Winstrol doesn't work
> and
> actually can have negative side effects. I also didn't tell her I had
> already started him back on the doxycycline but she said she would
> prefer
> instead he see the regular vet to see what's going on with his eye.
> Since
> the doxycycline his eyes look normal again! I don't sense the same
> urgency
> that I have in this vet, although she is better than the first who
> just
> said to euthanize. Any ideas how to search FeLV specialists? I've
> Googled
> for my area but nothing comes up. I live in San Jose Ca
>
> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
>
> On Sep 27, 2016 6:38 PM, wrote:
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> 1. Looking for advice (Liz McCarty)
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> 3. Re: Looking for advice (Ashley Egger)
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> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:33:47 -0700
> From: Liz McCarty To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice
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> I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very
> well.
> I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't
> spoken
> with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His
> eye
> is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him
> though.
> I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not
> sure
> about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment
> scheduled for 10/4. He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
> weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the
> appointment
> they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another
> transfusion
> to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that
> a
> shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't
> want him
> to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this
> if
> it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.
>
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> Hi Elizabeth
>
> Only you can say what is right for your little guy. However, I
> personally
> would try the Winstrol and see what response you get with that. You
> already
> had a better response with the Doxycycline, so there is still some
> hope.
> Absolutely steel yourself though, because it is quite likely that your
> vet
> will start pushing for euthanasia if that hasn?t already been
> suggested.
> We?ve all had to deal with that pressure from the vets, on this
> chatline.
> Resist taking him off the doxycycline and get him on the Winstrol if
> at all
> possible. Winstrol has the potential of a quick effect, so you won?t
> have
> to wait weeks and weeks to see if there is a positive effect,
> especially if
> you draw bloodwork before he starts on the Winstrol. You can often see
> some
> quick changes in the haematology profile.
>
> Giving him another transfusion will also give some time for different
> things to work, but again, if you aren?t seeing a discernable boost
> from
> the Interferon alone, don?t put all your eggs in that basket. Keep him
> on
> it if you like, but try to get the vet to give you the Winstrol as
> well.
>
> Amani
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Liz McCarty
> Sent: September-27-16 2:34 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice
>
>
> I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very
> well.
> I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't
> spoken
> with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His
> eye
> is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him
> though.
> I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not
> sure
> about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment
> scheduled for 10/4. He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
> weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the
> appointment
> they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another
> transfusion
> to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that
> a
> shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't
> want him
> to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this
> if
> it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.
>
> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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> From: Ashley Egger To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re:
> [Felvtalk] Looking for advice
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> Liz, I don't really have anything to add but just want to say I'm so
> sorry
> you and Hodor are having to go through this. I will be keeping Hodor
> in my
> thoughts and prayers!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Liz McCarty wrote:
>>
>> I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very
> well. I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I
> haven't
> spoken with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't
> heard.
> His eye is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried
> about him
> though. I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though,
> I'm
> not sure about his blood count or what it will look like at our
> appointment
> scheduled for 10/4. He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
> weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the
> appointment
> they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another
> transfusion
> to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that
> a
> shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't
> want him
> to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this
> if
> it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.
>>
>> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
>>
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> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:37:50 -0500
> From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice
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> Hi Ashley,
>
>
>
> If it isn?t too late for him the Winstrol is fabulous at helping build
> up
> his blood. My Tigger?s blood work got so much better the pathologist
> reran
> the testing process because he couldn?t believe what he was seeing in
> the
> results. I did lose Tigg but I feel it was because I started the
> Winstrol
> too late. Tigger had the one week on / one week off of the interferon
> for
> about 2 months, and his blood declined while on it. But I suppose all
> cats
> are different. I just wish I had started the Winstrol and Prednisolone
> along with the Doxy much earlier. I too didn?t want him to suffer but
> I
> don?t feel he suffered. Whatever you decide, you are doing your best
> for
> him.
>
>
>
> Best of luck to you and Hodor.
>
> Ardy
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Ashley Egger
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 6:29 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice
>
>
>
> Liz, I don't really have anything to add but just want to say I'm so
> sorry
> you and Hodor are having to go through this. I will be keeping Hodor
> in my
> thoughts and prayers!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Liz McCarty
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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