[Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....

Amani Oakley aoakley at oakleylegal.com
Sun Sep 25 22:27:00 CDT 2016


Maira

I learned that garlic and onions can destroy red cells in cats. The problem with cats is that they have a very different liver than humans and dogs, so things that aren’t poisonous to humans and dogs (and rats, and guinea pigs, etc.) are poisonous to cats.

I wouldn’t use garlic – either cooked or uncooked – unless you have found some credible studies online to support that garlic won’t harm cats.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maira Favela
Sent: September-25-16 8:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone....


P.s.:  Also, try garlic and apple cider viniger. Make sure you cook the garlic though. These products help kill pathogens/antibacterial and help reduce inflamation.

On Sep 25, 2016 12:06 PM, "ROBERT CHAPEL" <bchapel at optonline.net<mailto:bchapel at optonline.net>> wrote:

I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy ( Yogi) through....  I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had something causing him pain at least 5 of them......   I put him on high doses of ocular Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe Uveitis( bilateral but worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would likely have to be given chronically....VERY unfortunately he developed a huge corneal abrasion ( Green dye uptake involved almost his etire eye)...   Now I've got the poor little guy on atropine and two antibiotics three times a day in hopes of keeping the eye from rupturing..... This on top of his continuing to lose weight despite healthy appetite and still with some blood in the stool.....   The BIG problem in the moment is that I really can't put him back on topical corticosteroids if it is going to do this to him..... but.....when I tried to back off them before his Uveitis returned..... There is a good chance it will return again.....     Has anyone ever heard of anything that might be used for a cats eye inflammation that is not a corticosteroid??       I'll be frank....   this little guy is using up every single dime and then some of my retirement " disposable" income and I simply won't be able to afford him pretty soon if I don't figure something out..... beyond that... it is just too sad seeing him constantly suffering with one malady after another....   Winstrol is not going to happen unless I go from Vet to Vet and hope I can find one that will work with me but....  I honestly don't hold out a lot of hope for this guy.... He started getting sick very young and it's not gotten any better.....  My other guy is holding his own and I haven't had him to the vet more than once for an upper respiratory infection.....   I'm not just going to wait for the little guy to pass.....  I'm thinking that if the Uveitis returns and there is nothing that will control it besides corticosteroids I'm going to let him go..... He's just always hurting.... Hasn't been able to be a kitten for more than a few weeks since I brought him home ....  Add to this that my quality of life is pretty crappy at this point as I can take very little time away from home....   I'd spend thousands that I don't have if I had any assurance that it would make a difference but not just to keep him " functional" until he fades away while his life becomes enduring constant medication... being nearly blind.... sleeping and eating and avoiding the advances of his house mate who still wants to play.... His " better" eye does not appear to be very functional which leaves him at risk if the other guy decides to jump him.....   I sometimes separate them when I am out of the house but it appears that he prefers being out in the entire house even with the risk of the other guy.... Figure for the time he has I'll let him do as he prefers as long as it's not too dangerous......
But back to the original question..... any thought or experiences with anti Inflammatory medications that can used ocularly that are not Corticosteroids.......

thanks for any thoughts..
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   1. Re: Hodor Declining (Sandy)


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listen to Amani!! Sandy W ----- Original Message -----

From: "Margo"  To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:58:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining




I never had expected the Interferon to cause red cell or hematocrit changes. Where can I find information about that?


Thanks,


Margo




-----Original Message----- From: Amani Oakley Sent: Sep 25, 2016 12:25 AM To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining


Elizabeth


My experience was that the interferon did absolutely nothing for my Zander. I checked his blood work weekly to track what was happening, and even though I left him on it for several months (with blood transfusions, to ensure there was a chance for it to work), there was no effect at all on the red blood cells or haematocrit.


Do not wait if you don?t see improvement. My strong suggestion is to put him back on the doxycycline and try again for some Winstrol.


Amani


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>] On Behalf Of Liz McCarty Sent: September-25-16 12:20 AM To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Hodor Declining



Hey... Hodor was pretty steady and eating well, good energy... Until Wednesday. Since then be seems to not have enough energy to move very far. Not eating well, or drinking well. One of his eyes started tearing occasionally. He still gets excited about treats and a water bottle we freeze for him that he likes to lick. He has been on interferon for 2 weeks... This past week was his 7 days off. He started back last night. Has anyone had interferon experience and seen their cats drop on the week off? Any suggestions? I don't want to lose him. We are also giving him prednisone, Pet Tinic and Dmg.
I don't think the URI cleared before they stopped his doxycycline... Even though I expressed concern they said stop for now... I want to start him again....any thoughts? I don't think his immune system needs this extra stress! He was doing so well when he had the doxycycline.
Thank you.
Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438



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