[Felvtalk] Bogey...

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

Sherri...
My heart goes out to you... I KNOW very firsthand how difficult it is to 
have no idea which way it will go.
I've thought my little guy was on his way out too many times to count 
already and he just keeps bouncing back... Not always as well as before 
but he still eats well, purrs a lot despite the 7 meds I have to give 
him for his eyes and manages to stay out of reach of his Heavier, insane 
1 yr old " brother" ( also FeLV+ but mercifully still healthy and 
currently engaged in bringing leaves from the porch, individually in his 
mouth, into the kitchen to play with.... I couldn't figure out where all 
the leaves were coming from until I saw him do this, meticulously, over 
15 minutes.... it was "cute overload"!!
I went to the ends of the earth to find things that Yogi would eat when 
he was at his worst and the ONLY thing that worked for me was to grind 
temptations chicken treats very finely and sprinkle them over all meat 
baby food ( I tried a variety of meats I cooked myself and ground but he 
preferred the baby food)... Sometimes Chicken Broth on a plate inspired 
him to drink a bit more....worked better than a bowel as kitties do not 
see straight down and his nose was, at times , a bit stuffed...  Don't 
know if this is useful but my experience here is that the cumulative 
experience of everyone usually nets some good useable ideas....Please 
try not to stress too much over the blood results.... there was a time 
before we had the ability to know whats going on inside bodies that we 
just judged how well we ( or our creatures) were doing by their 
functioning... and he appears to be functioning reasonably well...  Heck 
... people run marathons with heart conditions..


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> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 22:34:17 -0500
> From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's checkup 
> today - bad results
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> I'll be praying the Doxy helps!!
> Ardy
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of
> Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 10:38 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's checkup today - bad results
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> Ardy,
> She has been on the prednisolone since August 1. The Stanzolol about 2 
> weeks
> after that. Today was first day of Doxy. Thanks for the well wishes.
> I think we are going to need them.
>
> SHerri
>
> On 10/26/16, 10:54 PM, "Felvtalk on behalf of Ardy Robertson"
>
> wrote:
>
>> Can I ask how long she has been on the Stanozolol? And you just 
>> started the Prednisolone and Doxy, correct? My best wishes to Bogey 
>> to improve soon!!
>>
>> Ardy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Amani Oakley
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:59 PM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's checkup today - bad results
>>
>> Hi Sherri
>>
>> Yes, some of the results are worse (especially the platelets) but the 
>> retic count is actually up a bit. I hope that adding the Doxycycline 
>> might help.
>> The haematocrit and red cells are down, but nowhere as low as I have 
>> seen them in cats with FeLV, so there is a lot of cushion still 
>> there. The best piece of news is that she is eating and drinking and 
>> gaining
> weight.
>>
>> Amani
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Sherri Godschalk
>> Sent: October-26-16 12:59 PM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogey's checkup today - bad results
>>
>> Just a bit of information regarding Bogey?s last lab results. She had 
>> been sleeping a lot and not as active so this really didn?t surprise 
>> me.
>> Everything has taken a down turn.
>>
>>
>>  	Range		26-Oct	30-Sep
>> RBC	6.54	12.2	2.54	2.9
>> HCT	30.3	52.3	14.8	17.9
>> HGB	9.8	16.2	5.2	6.2
>> MCV	35.9	53.1	58.3	61.7
>> MCH	11.8	17.3	20.5	21.4
>> MCHC	28.1	35.8	35.1	34.6
>> RDW	15	27	24.5	25.2
>> RETIC	3	50	89.9	82.1
>> WBC	2.87	17.02	13.05	12.01
>> NEU	1.48	1.029	3.97	3.96
>> LYM	0.92	6.88	7.8	6.81
>> MONO	0.05	0.67	1.16	1.17
>> EOS	0.17	1.57	0.11	0.06
>> BASO	0.01	0.26	0.01	0.01
>> PLT	151	800	28	53
>>
>>
>> The only bit of good news is the doc did start her on Doxycycline 
>> twice a day. So she is going to be on that and Prednisolone and 
>> Stanzolol. I also give her Petinic twice a day and am going to add 
>> Lysine. I hope that the Doxy isn?t arriving too late to help.
>>
>> Bogey is not suffering. She is eating, drinking and gaining weight, 
>> although just a little, playing once in awhile. She is hiding now 
>> which she never did before. My heart hurts today.
>>
>> Thanks for listening.
>>
>> Sherri
>>
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> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 03:40:53 +0000
> From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: 
> [Felvtalk] Bogey's checkup today - bad results
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> It is an old wives' tale. It will not thin the blood.
>
> Amani
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: October-26-16 11:41 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's checkup today - bad results
>
> Great ideas on the KFC, tuna and such. I will get some tomorrow for 
> her. I am trying to find something with not much salt as I was always 
> told that thins the blood. Is that an old wive's tale?
>
> On 10/26/16, 7:29 PM, "felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org on behalf 
> of dlgegg at windstream.net"  wrote:
>
>> RE:  APPETITE, TRY A CAN OF MACKEREL, THE STINKIER THE BETTER THEY 
>> SEEM TO LIKE IT.
>>
>> ---- Amani Oakley  wrote:
>>> Sherri, half the battle is keeping her eating. As long as she is 
>>> eating, you are ahead of the curve. I really don't like the low 
>>> platelet count but nothing else in the bloodwork is very alarming 
>>> right now. Were there clots in the sample? Did they do a slide 
>>> count? See if your results have anything at the bottom about the 
>>> recheck they did for the low platelets.
>>>
>>> Keep Bogey eating, as much as possible. Use things like tuna water 
>>> or tuna juice from tuna cans, to keep her hungry. Get Kentucky Fried 
>>> Chicken for her (without the covering!).
>>>
>>> You are doing very well for your little girl. I'm glad your vet 
>>> isn't giving up, and neither should you or Bogey.
>>>
>>> I'm crossing my fingers for you that the Doxycycline helps. Frankly, 
>>> though, he shouldn't have waited to get bad news. At least he is 
>>> willing to try it now.
>>>
>>> Amani
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Sherri Godschalk
>>> Sent: October-26-16 6:44 PM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's checkup today - bad results
>>>
>>> Hi Amani. I did feel very happy that he agreed to the Doxy. Maybe 
>>> the fact that the current regiment was clearly becoming ineffective 
>>> made him think we needed to add something. He is going to look into 
>>> Interferon for her and I am going to research that this evening as I 
>>> have only seen it mentioned here and there. He isn't giving up and I 
>>> am awfully glad about that because I am nowhere near ready. I don't 
>>> think Bogey is ready either.
>>>
>>> Sherri
>>>
>>> On 10/26/16, 1:59 PM, "Felvtalk on behalf of Amani Oakley"
>>>