[Felvtalk] Winstrol/Doxy Dosages

Thu May 19 09:16:09 CDT 2016

After getting a "clean" bill of Health for my Yogi ( ie.. good blood 
results
and no obvious ills beyond the blood in his eye) a day and a half  later 
he is not eating( despite the addition of mirtazapine 1/8 of a 15mg tab 
)when he WAS eating before and his eye issue has moved to the right eye 
as well)  Vet initially offered only ( Anything can happen to FeLV+ 
cats) and no guidance for any kind of TX
Others on the group have suggested uveitis ( and symptoms are consistent 
with this)... that said...  I have never been sure of the dosages being 
used with winstrol and Doxy....  Those of you who are using this 
protocol: are you giving it according to weight ( X mg per lb) ?   This 
would make the most sense to me...
I get the impression that 1mg 2x a day is common...yes??  How about the 
Doxy??    Don't know that this vet will go for it but there is no harm 
in asking... She's not offering anything beyond " love him and feed him 
well"...   Great idea if he would eat...  This was NOT a big problem 
until yesterday..AFTER the administration of the appetite Stimulant..  
As this is the only change in his regimen I think it wise to DC the 
mirtazapine for the present ( opinions??)
Thanks for any input...

Bob
Warwick NY

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> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 22:20:46 -0500
> From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
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> Thanks Kat ? I did not realize that?.but like you, I was curious :)
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> Ardy
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> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:24 AM
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> Ardy,
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>
> The email you are referencing was TO Lorrie - it was FROM Amy who said 
> "So far, most of the ones we have taken in have converted after some 
> time."  But like you, I would like to know what her protocol has been 
> to be so successful.
>
>
> Kat (Mew Jersey)
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 11:28 PM
> From: "Ardy Robertson"  >
> To: 'Amy'  >, felvtalk at felineleukemia.org  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat 
> Sanctuary
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> Hi Lorrie ? if you don?t mind me asking, what do you mean by ?most 
> cats you have taken in have converted after some time?? Does that mean 
> they no longer have FeLV, and if so, what do you attribute that to?
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Ardy
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Amy
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 10:31 AM
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> Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
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> Lorrie,
>
>
> That sounds amazing! I do cat rescue in Rochester, NY and we are a 
> no-kill rescue so when we get in leuk pos kitties, we do our best to 
> find places for them to go. We don't euthanize like so many of the 
> groups do. I have positives of my own but I am at capacity in my home. 
> We can keep the FIV positives at our building but not the leuk 
> positives because we are cage free and all of our rooms are full with 
> non-contagious cats. We don't get them in often but am I able to 
> contact you to see if you are able to help if we do get a leuk pos? We 
> always hold them at least 30 days to restest and often 60 or 90 days 
> and we run both tests, the ELISA and the IFA to make sure they aren't 
> going to fight it off first. So far, most of the ones we have taken in 
> have converted after some time. We are always looking for more options 
> on the rare occasion we do get one in that remains positive and tests 
> positive on both the ELISA and IFA. Thanks for helping these 
> kitties!!!!
>
>
> Let me know!
>
> Thanks Amy
>
>
>   _____
> From: Lorrie To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 6:56 PM
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>>    Lorrie,
>>
>>    Do you have pictures?  I would love to see what you've done!
>>
>>    Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
> Hi Kat, I was born in Morristown, "Mew" Jersey.
>
>
> I only have photos of the outside of my sanctuary and the grassy lot
> next door where I have a small, heated, building for ferals, and a
> big shade tree. I don't think they let us send photos to the group,
> but if you want to see it I can send it to you. However, outside you
> just see a two story brick building not the inside.
> -
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> It's really difficult to take photos of the inside because I can't
> get back far enough in each room to really show what I've done.
> -
>
> My cat sanctuary is two stories and a basement.  Downstairs are 5
> rooms, including two rooms with wire doors for introduction or
> isolation. My live-in caretaker has her own bedroom, a large kitchen,
> full bathroom and a half bath.  The cats have access to every room
> and my caretaker lets them sleep with her. She spoils them rotten.
> They (cats & caretaker) all have a couch, chairs, and kitty kondos.
> There is a glass front door and window perches so they can look
> outside.
>
>
> The cats are NOT in cages, they have the run of the downstairs and
> upstairs rooms.  The older cats are downstairs, and adoptable young
> cats and kittens are upstairs which is also designed just for them.
> Upstairs are 4 large kitty kondos, 2 people chairs, many cozy cat
> beds, and a wall-walk with two tunnels that goes all around the
> walls. There are 4 rooms upstairs, and a laundry room.
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> Lorrie
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> Hi Lorrie - I believe that is why I was keeping Tigger on an 
> antibiotic - in
> case he started getting something due to his immune system. I just 
> wish I
> would have used doxycycline rather than convenia. Amani can clarify a 
> bit
> perhaps.
> Ardy
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> Does anyone know (Amani probably will) if an anabolic steroid also
> compromises the cat's immune system as steroid like Prednisolone does?
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> Lorrie
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> Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 07:16:26 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
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> Marsha, I'm so sorry.
> What this "counselor" lacks is compassion. And any empathy for others. 
> He does NOT belong in this profession. He needs to go dig ditches, 
> somewhere far from actual humans.
>
> Common sense doesn't seem to have much to do with this. You are 
> struggling with grief, anxiety and hopelessness. Basically he told you 
> to pic yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again. I'm 
> surprised he didn't sing it :(
>
> Can you switch "counselors"? What kind of qualifications does this 
> ...man...hold?
>
> I have more, but want you to know that you're not alone...there any 
> many "common sense"less people in the world, and they make it a much 
> better place...
>
> Back after rounds
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> Margo
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> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marsha Sent: May 18, 2016 8:55 PM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
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>> I went to a counselor last month to help me cope with all that is on 
>> my plate.  During the 2nd session (1st one was the intake), he 
>> informed me that I lacked common sense (regarding money and animals). 
>> Then he said he loves animals too, and everybody lacks common sense 
>> in some way - some drink too much, some eat too much, etc.  When I 
>> told him that I wasn't looking for any more cats to take in, he said, 
>> "Good for you!"  All my brain processed was the word "good", which 
>> made his statement come across as highly judgemental.  I was more 
>> anxious and feeling more hopeless after I left.  Two things I was 
>> seeking help for.  I don't need that kind of help.  I am pretty sure 
>> that lacking common sense is not a diagnosis in any way.  And even if 
>> it was, how would you treat it?  Plus I was very depressed and crying 
>> because the last time I saw this counselor was the day before Brock 
>> died, and I still have Noelle to care for (sinus cancer).  I would 
>> like to tell him that HE lacked common sense in saying such things to 
>> someone in the throes of depression.
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>> On 5/18/2016 6:30 PM, Amani Oakley wrote:
>>> Rachel
>>>
>>> I am just like you. I cry at commercials. Did you ever see the one 
>>> where they put a lamp on the curb to be picked up for garbage? Who 
>>> ever thought one could cry over the fate of an unloved and abandoned 
>>> lamp for goodness sake??
>>>
>>> My mom used to ask me why I was so insane to keep on taking these 
>>> cats who would just go on to break my heart. I would take it so 
>>> hard. But I told her that if the people who love cats so much aren't 
>>> going to be the ones who save them and sacrifice for them, it sure 
>>> as hell wasn't going to be the people who don't care about them. It 
>>> will break your heart Rachel. There is no avoiding it or minimizing 
>>> it, but you know you have done a truly wonderful wonderful thing and 
>>> you go on to find another unbelievably deserving little sweetheart 
>>> who also should know someone's love and devotion, while on this 
>>> earth. Frankly, while it kills me to lose my babies, there is 
>>> nothing at all more profoundly and intensely painful to me than a 
>>> poor being who never saw any love or kindness.
>>>
>>> We are all doing our part, in this group, to help these furry 
>>> angels. This gives me a sense of great purpose and hope.
>>>
>>> Amani
>>
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