[Felvtalk] Winstrol
Ardy Robertson
ardyr at centurytel.net
Tue May 17 22:39:56 CDT 2016
Hello everyone,
I would like to add that if I faced this again, I would also add some
pro-biotics due to being on antibiotics (doxycycline)......I found an
inexpensive capsule and I just opened it and put the powder in his wet food.
There is no medication name on the prescription bottle though.
Thank you,
Ardy
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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Rachel Dagner
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 6:04 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
Hi Robert,
I am so glad you saved those babies. It really stinks that you are having
problems so soon.
You have come to the right place to get the support and help you need.
I am trying to help Amani set up a web site where we can track the outcomes
of those who use Winstrol. List vets that have used it in the past. And also
the compounding pharmacies that supply it. We don't have a website guru on
here that I know of so I am just in the research stages of figuring out the
best option.
My kitty Tucker has cancer so that is what I am dealing with right now. But
I can tell you if I find myself with another Felv kitty what I would do the
next time.
As we all know, after getting the diagnosis, and spending hours on line,
researching, some of us (me) crying while doing it. There are three bad
things that could possibly happen. Chronic infections, cancer, and anemia.
So I have decided my new favorite saying will be "an ounce of prevention is
worth a pound of cure". The thing I would do above all else is find
something to boost the immunity, and I would give it all of the time in
sickness and in health. There are a lot of quality companies out there who
sell good products I use Pet Wellbeing's Life Gold now for Tucker. Another
thing I would do is give my kitty curcumin. It is a proven cancer fighter
and has many other health benefits as well. I even read a research document
that showed it helped reduce the occurrence and size of struvite crystals (
which has always been a concern for me). I read research that shows kitties
absorb it better than humans or dogs so they get even more benefit from it.
I am using one from Thorn e Research for pets. The other thing I would do
is find something which protects against anemia (I haven't found it yet as I
have just started looking into options). Blackstrap molasses is what I have
found with awesome results for humans, but I only found one place that
mentioned it for cats, which is not good enough so the search continues.
As far as the uti, unfortunately they can be chronic in even non felv cats.
I am using two products with Tucker who has always had issues, one is NVH
Tripsy and my newest find is Solid Gold Berry Balance. So if you keep having
problems you might want to look into a preventative for that as well.
Good luck finding your new vet, maybe you can check Yelp or ask friends and
neighbors, you don't want to spend your money and end up with another dud.
Rachel
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> On May 16, 2016, at 2:30 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL <bchapel at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
> I'm new to the list and trying to catch up with some of the
threads...particularly with regard to Winstrol/Doxy combination... Are any
of you actually using this combination currently??... If so, are you
administering it
> Sub Q, IM or orally?? Also wondering if the pushback from vets with
regard to prescribing it has to do with the fact that it is one of the more
popular anabolics used by body builders and athletes....??
>
> Also...... anyone have any information re: Eye Problems in FeLV+ Kitties (
other than the frequently occurring sequlae to Herpes Virus infection)....
I recently adopted 2 FeLV+ youngsters ( 7 and 9 months) from the shelter
where I volunteer ( couldn't stand the idea of their living their lives in
isolation in a 3x3 enclosure).. I bit off a LOT more than I anticipated as
one has not been fully well since the day I brought him home but, until
recently, he was eating Heartily and playing mightily despite a chronic
URI.... Last week he developed some cloudiness in his L eye lenses and
what appear to be burst capillaries.... The Vet ( I allowed the shelter to
pay for this particular visit as I will go broke if I bring him as often as
I might be inclined.... the cats are uninsurable by all the pet insurance
companies I contacted).... that vet offered little in the way of DX...just
said " sometimes this happens to FeLV+ cats and prescribed Triple Antibiotic
Ocular Ointment
with Cortisone and Amoxi 2x daily ( running 103.2 temp)..... Frankly I
think the guy hardly even looked at my guy and I am going to have to take
him elsewhere on my own dime again to get a real DX and Tx suggestions.( if
I go on the shelters dime he is presented as a foster and only the shelter
are privy to detailed explanations and even then very little as they get a
very discounted rate).... This is my first experience with FeLV and I have
been reading vocaciously.... I am not one who is going to employ heroic
measures to keep my guys alive unless they won't cause ANY discomfort to
them... I'm already providing them a much better life than they might have
had and a LOT more love and attention than they ever would have known.....
Still.... his eye looks " angry " and I have no way to tell if it is causing
him pain...... Making an appt. to have blood work done to get a baseline
on his HCT,WBC's and Platelets.... Gums appear to still be red and his paw
pads have no
t gotten lighter so I am hopeful that he is not severely anemic.... But
have NO idea what might have caused the blood in his eye..... also there is
some clear discharge which I wipe away several times during the day.......
Any thoughts welcome...
>
> Bob
> Warwick NY
>
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>> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 10:55:23 -0500
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>> GOOD VET!
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>> ---- Rachel Dagner wrote:
>>> When I brought Tucker home from work he had an infection on his leg and
I took him to get treated, he had a chip so we found out he didn't need
shots for six months. When I took him for shots she me if I wanted the felv
vaccine because I used to let him go outside too. We tested him first and it
came back positive :(. She told me he could live three months or a long
normal life there was just no telling. She never even said the word
euthanize.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On May 15, 2016, at 5:45 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> I really feel blessed because my vet said 2 choices, euthansia or keep
Annie, treat her and hope. I would have walked out the door and never
returned if he only had one solution. Find another vet.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Ardy Robertson wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> If I can jump in on the website idea, I believe that would help
>>>> people, especially people like me who had no experience with FeLV.
>>>> Suddenly you are told one of your kitties has FeLV virus, and you
>>>> are being told there are no options other than euthanasia. My vets
>>>> even wanted me to go home and get my other two cats and bring them
>>>> in that day for euthanizing! I said ?no?! If there was a website
>>>> that sort of listed a protocol for treating the FeLV crises, that
>>>> would be great! One of our vets then offered Interferon and while I
>>>> was placing my hopes on that treatment, believing that the vets
>>>> wanted Tigger to live and pull out of the crisis he was in,
>>>> valuable time was slipping away and Tigg?s blood counts were taking
>>>> a dive. They didn?t really explain anything about the blood test
>>>> results. I basically had to learn everything from reading online.
>>>> For instance I did not know that stress can bring on a crisis. We
>>>> had brought a stray into our house, and she was running up be
hi
>> nd Tigger and biting him hard. His stress from that was high. I also
learned from reading online that while the FeLV virus spreads to other cats,
it is hardly ever spread to a cat over 11 months of age because their immune
system can usually defend them from it. That is also how I found this group
online.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was when Amani explained that Winstrol has been shown to turn the
bone marrow back on to producing blood cells, that I decided to take a
chance on it. Then much more time was lost trying to find a way to get
Winstrol, also known as Stanozolol. I found a source in Canada, but they
were not able to ship into the US. I live in Wisconsin, so I had to find a
source in the US. Again, as a novice, I did not have the information I
needed to make any meaningful decisions. I happen to be computer-literate so
I was able to do the searching for ways to get Winstrol etc., I shudder to
think what a loving cat owner who just doesn?t happen to be able to find
things online easily, would do! So the need for information is
critical??both for cat owners, and eventually to change the minds of the
veterinary community! I hope one day, they will actually SUGGEST it to cat
parents.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If a website could ever become a reality, I would gladly share Tigger?s
treatment details, along with his blood test results. Even though we
eventually lost him, I feel I was given some additional time with him ? and
it was good quality time with him feeling very good, and playful most of the
time. I also feel he may have pulled through this particular crisis if I had
started this treatment regime as soon as I knew he was FeLV positive. I
could be wrong, but I think the FeLV virus sometimes sits dormant in the
cat, waiting for some period of stress in the cat?s life, and then it pops
up and attacks in varying ways. If the owner is able to get the cat through
that particular crisis, then I think it sometimes backs off again, possibly
for very long periods, especially if the cat?s stress levels can be kept
low.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Ardy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Rachel Dagner
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 10:34 AM
>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amani thoughts for Winstrol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have googled you, you are the only one on here that I can put a face
to a name! Can we post pictures when we send messages?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, not all lawyers are bad. Lol I am glad you do something you
believe in and that is fulfilling and helps people. Probably makes all of
the hours worth it. That and you love kitties and help people on here with
theirs when you have so little time tells me you are a wonderful person with
a huge heart and a beautiful soul.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A web site would be awesome, somewhere to send people for information
instead of having to start over completely with a new person. I know there
are places where you can do free websites. I have no idea how to do one.
But I am good at researching and figuring things out, so it's something we
could look at.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 14, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Amani Oakley > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rachel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I AM working today. I got up late since in fact, I was working until
about 4:30 a.m. That?s one thing about working for myself (with just my
husband as my partner). There is only this single perk I have and that is
that I don?t get up early since I generally work all night. I figure since
I?m the boss, I don?t have to justify my hours to anyone else! Of course, if
I have to go to court for motions or trials, then I have to get up early
like the rest of the world, but frankly, when I am in court, I generally
don?t go to bed at all. Fun, eh? And to think that one of the reasons I left
the field of Medical Laboratory Technology and decided to be a lawyer was
that I hated having to do midnight shifts. Now, it?s not a ?shift?. I?m just
up ALL night and work all day TOO.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rachel, what I would love to do is have someone way smarter than me
when it comes to websites, develop a website where we can collect the
information about Winstrol. It is absolutely essential for us to collect
credible objective scientific information if we are going to convince the
vets to stop their ridiculous crusade against Winstrol. At worst, the drug
may end up not being very effective in a particular case, but it isn?t a
demon drug to be avoided at all costs, and frankly, I suspect that starting
the Winstrol sooner would likely give the best outcome. I think, generally
speaking, that when Winstrol is finally used, the cat is in pretty bad
shape, all else has failed, and we are asking for a miracle. I have a lot of
faith in Winstrol, but I know full well it doesn?t always work. However, I
have used it and gotten amazing results in circumstances where the vets have
told me that there is nothing they have to offer, and nothing will work. So
why not try the Winstrol?
I
>> simply don?t get the reluctance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would love to get Winstrol for everyone and I am trying to keep
>>>> track of anyone who lets me know they have used it and how they
>>>> obtained it. Unfortunately, often people will not respond with that
>>>> information when I ask. Perhaps they suddenly wonder if I am a fed,
>>>> posing as a cat-lover to trap unwary online folks, looking to save
>>>> their babies. And I wouldn?t want to expose my vet to criticism
>>>> from colleagues. I think she is less of a skeptic than most,
>>>> because I let her know what I have seen, but she came in mid-way
>>>> during my ordeal with Zander. She wasn?t the first vet who
>>>> diagnosed him and she never saw how bad he was because by then, I
>>>> was at the ER clinic. However, she allowed me to try various
>>>> medications regimes, and allowed me to take the weekly blood work
>>>> while I assessed the different treatment modalities to determine
>>>> what was working and what wasn?t. She saw Zander improve and was
>>>> extremely impressed, but you know, once he recovered from what was
>>>> deemed to be
a
>> death sentence, and after there was some daylight between the crisis and
his current excellent condition, vets started to suggest to me that maybe it
wasn?t FeLV after all. REALLY frustrating. There is no way to convince
someone who insists on not being convinced ? even with weekly lab results in
hand and before and after lab results. Anyway, all that to say that if push
comes to shove, I think my vet believes that the Winstrol saved Zander, but
if confronted by other vets, I am sure she would temper her comments so she
doesn?t appear foolish and out of step to them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ardy was generous with her information about where she was able to
obtain the Winstrol and shared it with everyone, and it seems to me that
this may be the most promising route. The trouble isn?t getting the Winstrol
once you have a prescription ? the problem is getting that prescription from
your vet. Once you have that, you can order the medication online from a
compounding pharmacy and Ardy let us know about the one she used which
shipped to her from another state.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think each of us who wants to try out the Winstrol, needs to have
>>>> a talk with our vets, and explain to them that they are providing
>>>> little in the way of options except euthanasia, and a trial of
>>>> Winstrol is inexpensive and certainly not painful to the cat, so
>>>> rather than simply putting the cat down, why not trying the
>>>> Winstrol. Tell them that you understand the risk of liver damage,
>>>> and again, given the alternative, you accept and recognize that
>>>> risk but it is your understanding that while the liver enzymes
>>>> often rise with the use of Winstrol, there is no evidence or
>>>> scientific trials linking the use of Winstrol to any lasting liver
>>>> damage. In the end, you are in charge. Of course the vet can refuse
>>>> to provide the Winstrol and can decide he/she doesn?t want you for
>>>> a client, so remain calm and not belligerent if you want to avoid
>>>> that outcome. I would like to think that most vets, when faced with
>>>> a logical, measured decision to try a specific course of treatment,
>>>> would
a
>> ssist even if you don?t have their full support on the chosen treatment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think that once we have some helpful vet names, these also can be
shared so people know where they can go where they will get the support they
need for their FeLV cats. If anyone is situated near Toronto, Ontario,
Canada, I am happy to provide them with my vet?s name and location. She is
very kind, really cares about my cats, and respects my input very much, so
we get along just fine. I have moved away from where the clinic is located
and now have to travel close to an hour to take my cats there, but I just
feel up to going through the same battle with another vet right now, so I?ll
stick to the ones who have known me for decades and respect my decisions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Remember too that I used a number of medications with the Winstrol.
>>>> I used prednisone, Winstrol, metoclopramide (Zander seemed to have
>>>> problems passing stool for a while and research online shows that
>>>> FeLV affects the intestinal walls as well ? metoclopramide was VERY
>>>> helpful to get the stool moving regularly and I believe without the
>>>> stool sitting still in one area of the intestinal tract, it took
>>>> away the environment which encouraged the intestinal walls to be
>>>> attacked and become inflamed), and Doxycycline. When I was trying
>>>> help Ardy with Tigger, her vet wanted Tigger on Convenia and so as
>>>> to ?pick our battles?, I told Ardy to accept the Convenia instead
>>>> of the Doxycyclne and we would play it by ear. I knew of course
>>>> that antibiotics don?t kill viruses, and I couldn?t remember why
>>>> Doxycycline was so important. I figured I had used it for covering
>>>> for potential secondary infections. However, after seeing some
>>>> blasts showing up on the blood work, I reconsidered and reme
mb
>> ered that Doxycycline actually works to block RNA synthesis, which is how
the virus reproduces, so while the Winstrol was working to restore
progenitor cells in the bone marrow to get new blood cells produced, the
Doxycycline was blocking the virus from continuing to reproduce unchecked.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And Rachel ? I am not ?that? kind of a lawyer, so I can?t defend you
from a drug charge, but I do have contacts across the U.S., so I promise to
get you help should you end up in trouble because of my preaching about
Winstrol:). I am a medical malpractice lawyer - Google me ? I figured I
would put my scientific and medical knowledge to good use when I left the
medical field behind.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See ? not all lawyers are bad!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Amani
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Rachel Dagner
>>>> Sent: May-14-16 7:48 AM
>>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Amani thoughts
>>>> for Winstrol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good Morning Amani,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope you are not working today, lawyers need QOL too!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been thinking about Winstrol and how hard it is for people to
get their vets to get on board and how hard it is to find it. So I was
thinking that maybe since you are the go to person for those of us looking
to go this route, you could start a file of those who have tried it along
with blood test results and notes or letters from vets, along with places we
find that make Winstrol. You could then send the file to people to take with
them to their vets. The more vets that try it and see results the more
likely they are to try it again and share their experience with other vets.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My second option would be that I could become a Winstrol kitty drug
dealer, and if I got caught you could defend me. Then we could write a book
about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Option one sounds a little more promising though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rachel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:02:35 -0500
>> From: To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kokonut Felv+
>> Message-ID: <20160516120235.PJPAU.1851.root at pamxwww03-z01>
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>> RE: stool, I give my guys about 1/4 teaspoon coconut oil every day. They
ask for it. I don't have as much problem with hairballs since we started
this.
>>
>>
>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote:
>>> Olivia
>>>
>>> It is a slow process. Once you get a bit of food into Kokonuts, she will
hopefully start feeling better. Keep feeding her small amounts at multiple
times of the day, if you can. Ask the vet to give her subcutaneous fluids or
to show you how to do it at home (t is pretty easy). She is probably
dehydrated as well as not eating well. Good for you to get the Pedialyte
into her - that is exactly what she needs - electrolytes - but with
subcutaneous fluids, there is a much faster uptake of the fluids, body-wide,
then if it is given orally.
>>> See if her stool is coming out regularly. If not, consider asking the
vet for Metoclopromide. As I mentioned in another post, FeLV often
negatively impacts the intestinal tract and causes the stool to slow down.
The Metoclopromide helps to empty the stomach and increases peristaltic
action which moves the stool along and this makes the cat feel a bit better
after a meal.
>>>
>>> I strongly suggest the Winstrol if nothing else but to increase appetite
and feeling better. That boost alone will go miles to helping your cat fight
this battle.
>>>
>>> Amani
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
. .
>>> Sent: May-15-16 12:46 PM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kokonut Felv+
>>>
>>> How long has anyone ever syringe fed a cat . How long will it take a
>>> cat to feel better weeks ,months? Please share thanks Sent from my
>>> iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 15, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Rachel Dagner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Olivia,
>>>> So sorry your baby isn't feeling good. Syringe feeding in very
>>>> important are you using the ad hills food? I know it's hard to get
>>>> a lot of food in and this is high calorie. When I was syringe
>>>> feeding Tucker I took him to get fluids under the skin a couple of
>>>> times and my vet only charges $14 to do it. My thoughts are that
>>>> vets treat the symptoms but sometimes forget that we also need to
>>>> treat the underlying problems. Which in our case is felv which
>>>> causes a poor immune system. I would say find something to boost
>>>> the immune system as well. Since you are syringing you can just add
>>>> supplements right to the food. I syringe Tucker a tiny bit of food
>>>> twice everyday mixed with his supplements. My suggestion would be
>>>> if cost is an issue to try something like Life Gold immunity. It
>>>> equals out to about $10 a month, if you have deeper pockets I would
>>>> do Vitality Science Advanced Immune Support, both of these
>>>> companies offer a ninety day money back guarantee. You can do some
>>>> resear
ch on products look and the ingredients and find something you feel
comfortable with. I would give supplements not only while sick but as a
maintenance to keep my kitties immune system strong, and fighting. I hope
kokonut feels better soon and starts eating on her own. Keep us posted!
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On May 14, 2016, at 9:56 PM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Try baby food, just make sure it has no onion or garlic in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- Miss Olivia Valencia wrote:
>>>>>> My cat is Kokonut 1/yo. She is Felv+. She got ill the other day, she
had a fever of 105. took her to vet . The vet gave her metacam,doxycycline &
depo medrol Her fever has come down a little. But she hasn't been eating &
just been laying in the same spot for the last couple of days. My sister has
been syringe feeding & hydrating her & also giving her some pedialyte. Any
other recommendations-For food & staying hydrating? frown emoticon has
anybody else experienced this? whats to be expected?
>>>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:15:20 -0500
>> From: To: Amy , felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
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>> AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GET PEOPLE TO NEUTER AND SPAY, THEN THERE WOULD
BE NO STRAYS.
>>
>> ---- Amy wrote:
>>> Lorrie,
>>> That sounds amazing! I do cat rescue in Rochester, NY and we are a
no-kill rescue so when we get in leuk pos kitties, we do our best to find
places for them to go. We don't euthanize like so many of the groups do. I
have positives of my own but I am at capacity in my home. We can keep the
FIV positives at our building but not the leuk positives because we are cage
free and all of our rooms are full with non-contagious cats. We don't get
them in often but am I able to contact you to see if you are able to help if
we do get a leuk pos? We always hold them at least 30 days to restest and
often 60 or 90 days and we run both tests, the ELISA and the IFA to make
sure they aren't going to fight it off first. So far, most of the ones we
have taken in have converted after some time. We are always looking for more
options on the rare occasion we do get one in that remains positive and
tests positive on both the ELISA and IFA. Thanks for helping these
kitties!!!!
>>> Let me know!Thanks Amy
>>>
>>> From: Lorrie To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May
>>> 15, 2016 6:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ? ? Lorrie,
>>>>
>>>> ? ? Do you have pictures?? I would love to see what you've done!
>>>>
>>>> ? ? Kat (Mew Jersey)
>>>
>>> Hi Kat, I was born in Morristown, "Mew" Jersey.
>>>
>>>
>>> I only have photos of the outside of my sanctuary and the grassy lot
>>> next door where I have a small, heated, building for ferals, and a
>>> big shade tree. I don't think they let us send photos to the group,
>>> but if you want to see it I can send it to you. However, outside you
>>> just see a two story brick building not the inside.
>>> -
>>>
>>> It's really difficult to take photos of the inside because I can't
>>> get back far enough in each room to really show what I've done.
>>> -
>>>
>>> My cat sanctuary is two stories and a basement.? Downstairs are 5
>>> rooms, including two rooms with wire doors for introduction or
>>> isolation. My live-in caretaker has her own bedroom, a large
>>> kitchen, full bathroom and a half bath.? The cats have access to
>>> every room and my caretaker lets them sleep with her. She spoils them
rotten.
>>> They (cats & caretaker) all have a couch, chairs, and kitty kondos.
>>> There is a glass front door and window perches so they can look
>>> outside.
>>>
>>>
>>> The cats are NOT in cages, they have the run of the downstairs and
>>> upstairs rooms.? The older cats are downstairs, and adoptable young
>>> cats and kittens are upstairs which is also designed just for them.
>>> Upstairs are 4 large kitty kondos, 2 people chairs, many cozy cat
>>> beds, and a wall-walk with two tunnels that goes all around the
>>> walls. There are 4 rooms upstairs, and a laundry room.
>>>
>>> Lorrie
>>>
>>>
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