[Felvtalk] TIGGER

Tue Mar 8 07:37:17 CST 2016

Thank you Amani - I will call the vet today.

Thank you,

Ardy Robertson

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 12:35 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

Do a full haematology panel (including the reticulocyte count) and do liver
enzymes (biochemistry).

Ask for all your cat's results to date. If you let me know what they are, I
can decipher them for you. You will probably see are reduction in red cells
and haematocrit results, and you may see a reduction in platelets and white
cells. FeLV can attack any or all of the three cell lines (red cells, white
cells or platelets). The problem is that it shuts down the bone marrow where
precursors of these cells are produced. Winstrol turns back on the bone
marrow's production of these cells, so you will hopefully see an increase in
any low levels in these results (most likely the red cells and haematocrit
results).

When the bone marrow starts to produce these cells again, you will also see
a rise in the reticulocyte count (which is also a reflection of the level of
activity in the bone marrow).

With respect to the liver enzymes, if your vet is not firmly working with
you, expect that he/she will insist that you stop the Winstrol when the
enzymes rise. RESIST. You've got to let the Winstrol work and it takes a
long time. The liver enzymes will go up but will come down after Winstrol is
discontinued and the more important thing is to reverse the FeLV crisis. If
you think the vet will not listen to you and leave your cat on the Winstrol,
then don't ask for the liver enzymes. 

After a few weeks on Winstrol or perhaps a month, run the lab tests again to
see if you are getting a response. However, I would be surprised if you
wouldn't already see a difference in your cat's eating, playing and overall
wellbeing. 

Amani 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Ardy Robertson
Sent: March-08-16 12:22 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

What type of blood work would you suggest I ask for? They don't tell me much
about his red or white blood cells.

Thank you,

Ardy 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 9:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

The Winstrol will boost his appetite and you won't need to give him anything
else. The Winstrol works very very well on the bone marrow. If it were me, I
wouldn't waste any more time getting him on the Winstrol.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Ardy Robertson
Sent: March-07-16 10:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

Thanks Amani,

I will call the vet tomorrow and ask if they will get some for me. Some time
ago, the other vet in this practice said they would, if other options
failed. I am just so worried that his Leukemia has spread to his bones. They
also did not want to keep him on the appetite stimulant unless he really
needed it.

Thank you,

Ardy

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 1:06 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

Ardy

I would definitely try the Winstrol now. Get bloodwork if you can,
beforehand, so you can compare it afterwards, to gauge if the Winstrol is
working. I have had others online tell me that when they started the
Winstrol, they got an immediate and marked improvement both physically and
in the blood results.

If it were me, I would be trying the Winstrol now to see if Tigger is one of
the cats which respond well to it.

Please let us know how things progress and I am keeping my fingers crossed
for you and Tigger.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Ardy Robertson
Sent: March-06-16 11:39 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk at felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: [Felvtalk] TIGGER

Hello everyone, 

I haven't commented on Tigger for a while, and now I have some questions so
I am seeking advice. My 5-1/2 year old male kitty - Tigger - has FeLV and
last fall had a serious bout of fevers, weight loss, dehydration and all of
that..he pulled through with syringe feedings, fluids, Convenia (14-day
antibiotic) shots, several series of "Interferon" along with lots of prayers
and love. He returned to eating, drinking, etc. and was doing fine, playing
- nearly back to normal. 

He later had a blown out anal gland from constipation, which was remedied
with pumpkin in his diet, along with antibiotic site injections.
Bowel/bladder habits returned to normal and he healed.

Then, a re-test in December confirmed that he is still FeLV positive, but at
that time symptom free.

Two weeks ago he seemed to be in pain, a bit feverish and not eating much.
It turned out he had a "raging" urinary tract infection. I feel very bad
that I did not know it. Two more Convenia shots, urinalysis with culture
etc., x-ray to see if there were stones was negative, however I believe they
said he has crystals - of magnesium and a couple other things. We switched
him to Hills prescription food - C/D for urinary tract health, and
surprisingly he likes it. I also got him a water fountain which encourages
him to drink more water. However after two weeks and all of that he is still
in some pain - they had given him Buprenorphine for the pain and that does
take it away for about 18 hours (actually makes him a bit loopy!!). Now I
have it in a bottle to give as needed, so I cut the dose in thirds and only
give when necessary. When he is pain free he eats, otherwise, not so much.
His healthy weight was a little over 11 lbs., and he had gained back to 10.7
lbs. Two weeks ago at the vet he was 10.2 and now he is 9.5 lbs. They are
suggesting a Convenia shot every two weeks for a while and pain meds as
needed. The pain seems to be brought on by eating/drinking, or by jumping
down from something.

Amani - if you are reading...do you feel this is the time to ask for
Winstrol? They say the UTI is over with, urine is fine, but that it is the
Lukemia that is making him feel like this. One of the vets there is a vet
chiropractor and she gave him a spinal manipulation which seemed to keep the
pain at bay for over 24 hours.

One of my questions is - what can I give him for pro-biotics? I bought some
Vetri-Science UT Strength Feline treats that have pro-biotics in them, and
he will not eat them. I even tried chopping them to bits and putting with
his fish oil and he refuses. I don't want to force feed these to him. He
hates yogurt but I could syringe a little of it if necessary.

Any ideas are appreciated!!

Thank you,

Ardy Robertson

Osseo, Wisconsin

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