[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 22
Amani Oakley
aoakley at oakleylegal.com
Tue Jun 7 12:18:28 CDT 2016
You guys are embarrassing me. I'm just like everyone else in this group. Stark raving mad about my cats, willing to fight anyone to get what I need for them, and not afraid to be called a Crazy Cat Lady.
Amani
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Sent: June-07-16 12:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 22
Amani rocks
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> 1. Re: uveitis (dlgegg at windstream.net)
> 2. Re: uveitis (dlgegg at windstream.net)
> 3. Re: uveitis (Ardy Robertson)
> 4. Re: uveitis (dlgegg at windstream.net)
> 5. Tucker (Rachel Dagner)
> 6. Re: both of my cats are FELV positive. What to do now?
> (Rachel Dagner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:24:18 -0500
> From: <dlgegg at windstream.net>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis
> Message-ID: <20160606192418.IXWS5.1444.root at pamxwww02-z01>
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> Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group!
>
>
> ---- Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>> Bob, I?d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won?t be enough while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment.
>>
>> Amani
>>
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
>> Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis
>>
>> Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats..... I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect.... the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers.... Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye..... It is getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so important.... I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind..... The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment.... but this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats..... Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case......??
>>
>> Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up.... but..... He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do further testing..... Again.... it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO hard"....
>>
>> Bob
>> Warwick NY
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:28:33 -0500
> From: <dlgegg at windstream.net>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis
> Message-ID: <20160606192833.BTTII.1453.root at pamxwww02-z01>
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> Actually, I am glad for so many knowledgeable people in this group who seem to know more than most vets around the country.
>
> ---- Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>> Bob, I?d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won?t be enough while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment.
>>
>> Amani
>>
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
>> Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis
>>
>> Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats..... I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect.... the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers.... Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye..... It is getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so important.... I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind..... The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment.... but this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats..... Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case......??
>>
>> Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up.... but..... He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do further testing..... Again.... it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO hard"....
>>
>> Bob
>> Warwick NY
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:33:07 -0500
> From: "Ardy Robertson" <ardyr at centurytel.net>
> To: <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis
> Message-ID: <000001d1c075$b15bb8e0$14132aa0$@centurytel.net>
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> On a side note, even though one would certainly never ever want to see
> kitty be blind, we had my dad's cat after my parents passed away, and
> she lived to be 19. Dodsie went blind about the last two years of her
> life -- completely blind. But for some reason it did not hinder her.
> She adapted. We did not really even notice anything other than she
> went up and down the steps on the far right side, so she nearly
> touched the wall as she went. Then she mostly stayed near the outside
> wall of the room. I would put her kitty beds touching the wall where
> she felt comfortable. She found her dishes because they were where
> they always were. She continued to interact with us as if nothing had
> happened. She came when we called her and would lay on our laps and
> purr etc. As long as she was not in pain, we just let her be. We had
> another cat (that we still have - Peekers) and she was young at that
> time, and they interacted as if nothing was wrong. Then one day in
> 2005 she just went to sleep
p
> eacefully.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of dlgegg at windstream.net
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:24 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis
>
> Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group!
>
>
> ---- Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>> Bob, I?d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won?t be enough while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment.
>>
>> Amani
>>
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
>> Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis
>>
>> Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats..... I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect.... the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers.... Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye..... It is getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so important.... I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind..... The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment.... but this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats..... Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case......??
>>
>> Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up.... but..... He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do further testing..... Again.... it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO hard"....
>>
>> Bob
>> Warwick NY
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 8:19:43 -0500
> From: <dlgegg at windstream.net>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis
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> A beautiful story! I had a miniture poodle who lost her sight to cataracts. We had gotten 2 new cats. One day, we discovered that the cats were bring mice for her to "hunt" and when they got out of her sight, they would pat them and run them back into her line of sight. They also kept her out of the road by bumping into her and guiding her back into the yard. Animals are so wonderful. These 2 cats who never knew Pia before, were looking after her as though she was part of their family. Pia lived to 19 good years, all we had to do is never change the furniture or placement of food and water bowls and she never seemed to notice the change in her life.
>
> ---- Ardy Robertson <ardyr at centurytel.net> wrote:
>> On a side note, even though one would certainly never ever want to
>> see kitty be blind, we had my dad's cat after my parents passed
>> away, and she lived to be 19. Dodsie went blind about the last two
>> years of her life -- completely blind. But for some reason it did not
>> hinder her. She adapted. We did not really even notice anything other
>> than she went up and down the steps on the far right side, so she
>> nearly touched the wall as she went. Then she mostly stayed near the
>> outside wall of the room. I would put her kitty beds touching the
>> wall where she felt comfortable. She found her dishes because they
>> were where they always were. She continued to interact with us as if
>> nothing had happened. She came when we called her and would lay on
>> our laps and purr etc. As long as she was not in pain, we just let
>> her be. We had another cat (that we still have - Peekers) and she was
>> young at that time, and they interacted as if nothing was wrong. Then
>> one day in 2005 she just went to slee
p
> peacefully.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of dlgegg at windstream.net
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:24 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis
>
> Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group!
>
>
> ---- Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>> Bob, I?d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won?t be enough while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment.
>>
>> Amani
>>
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
>> Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis
>>
>> Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats..... I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect.... the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers.... Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye..... It is getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so important.... I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind..... The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment.... but this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats..... Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case......??
>>
>> Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up.... but..... He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do further testing..... Again.... it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO hard"....
>>
>> Bob
>> Warwick NY
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 10:33:13 -0400
> From: Rachel Dagner <rdagner at novahrc.com>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker
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> I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time
> breathing due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in
> right away. It was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit crying since.
> It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I
> miss him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily
> alone today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last
> week and he was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just
> so hard to believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for
> at least an hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed
> to get inside and come home with me. I know it will get better, but
> right now the pain is just unbearable. I know that those here who have
> gone through this understand where I am right now.
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 11:27:05 -0400
> From: Rachel Dagner <rdagner at novahrc.com>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] both of my cats are FELV positive. What to do
> now?
> Message-ID: <f462ac6a5db5c7271777495313b13270 at mail.gmail.com>
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> Hi Realissa,
>
>
>
> I am sorry to hear about your babies, the diagnosis is a real
> heartbreaker, I know. If you are interested in a holistic approach to
> keep them healthy there is a really good book called The Nature of Animal Healing by Dr.
> Marin Goldstein. He is known as one of the best integrative vets in
> the world, integrative meaning he uses conventional and holistic
> remedies for his patients. He has cured animals that owners were told
> were not curable or that conventional medicine alone did not work for.
> Which I think is the best kind of vet. His clinic is based out of New
> York, if I lived there and had known about him that is where I would
> have gone for my baby right from the get go, no doubt. He has a
> section in his book on what he has done for FELV kitties to keep them
> healthy and from developing the bad things that can come along for
> FELV cats. I think the biggest thing I have learned about FELV is that
> we should probably not vaccinate them, especially if they are indoor
> cats. Vaccinations do a number on even a healthy animals immune
> system. He does have suggestions on how to keep them strong if they
> must endure vaccinations due to state laws, and suggests that if you
> do vaccines that you should not do them all at once or in combo doses
> as this is too much for the immune system to handle at one time. There
> is a very real reason they have now* finally* started doing 3 year
> vaccinations instead of yearly, even though Veterinarians have been
> pushing for it since the 90s. The side effects, the sick animals, the
> cancer that they have caused? it is all very scary and with a FELV or
> immune compromised cats and dogs even more so. I hope you can push
> past the fear, come up with a solid game plan to do the best you can
> for them and then just enjoy them and put Felv on the back burner and
> go on as normal. This is what you have to do, and you will, and you
> will come to terms with the situation and move forward. I will pray that your babies stay healthy and happy for many, many years to come.
>
>
>
> Rachel
>
>
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>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Realissa Dekraunti
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 05, 2016 8:51 PM
> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] both of my cats are FELV positive. What to do now?
>
>
>
> Hi everybody. Thank you for accepting me in this group. I am just too
> devastated to think straight. I rescued two cats in October and I
> found out two days ago that they are both Felv positive. We did an
> Elisa test on Thursday, and it came back positive, and an IFA that
> confirmed the positive results. I live in LA and I don't know what to
> do, where to go, if there is alternative medicine. I love these two
> cats more than I could ever imagine and it is breaking my heart. Any
> input, help, direction you could give me, would be incredibly
> appreciated. They are FIV negative but FELV positive. I have heard
> there is a medicine called LTCI but that it is very expensive. I am
> also heard of Virbagen Omega, L Lysin, Interfone. There is so much info that I am overwhelmed.
>
>
>
> to add some information.
>
>
>
> Date of birth: May 7, 2015
> ELISA "snap" test at Animal Wellness Center: June 25, 2015 (age: 7 weeks).
> Results: weak positive for FeLV
> IFA confirming test at Animal Wellness Center: June 30, 2015 (age: 7
> weeks,
> 5 days). Results: negative
> ELISA "snap" test at Animal Wellness Center: August 1, 2015 (age: 12
> weeks,
> 2 days). Results: weak positive for FeLV ELISA in-lab test at Animal
> Wellness Center (sent to IDEXX): August 13,
> 2015 (age: 14 weeks). Results: negative
>
>
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> June 1, 2016 ELISA test both came positive
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> June 2, 2016 IFA both came Felv positive FIV negative
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> Thanks a lot
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