[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 58

Sat Dec 24 14:48:10 CST 2016

Robert I am so very sorry. I don't have any answers for you. I don't think there's any way to judge how long your baby has, there are too many factors that can contribute. Much depends on how quickly the count has dropped, or is dropping. Some cats adjust well, ad can be comfortable for a long time.

I am more likely to let nature take it's course, as long as the cat is eating and feeling well, but I know it's an unpopular position. Since most of my cats have feral/stray origins, their perception of a Vet's office is not positive, and for their last moments to be fearful is not what I want. It's always a hard call for me. 

I can say that I would be unlikely to go for the extra testing at this point. I see no possible benefit for your cat.

I'm sorry. I don't have any answers.

Wishing  you peace,

Margo

-----Original Message-----
>From: ROBERT CHAPEL <bchapel at optonline.net>
>Sent: Dec 24, 2016 2:53 PM
>To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 58
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>Amani et al....
>
>Any idea of the life expectancy of untreated non regenerative anemia in 
>a FeLV cat....Got a call on Yogi's  Most Recent Bloodwork and the vet 
>states HCT of 14 and non regenerative anemia....  I was taken aback and 
>didn't ask nearly enough questions but it was VERY clear that she felt 
>it was time to put the little guy down.....   I am at the end of my 
>money at this point and cannot take him to a bunch of other vets hoping 
>one will be willing to prescribe the cocktail that is showing itself to 
>be effective with others cats...( I don't think I am going to get a lot 
>of cooperation from the Vet I was using after I gave her my opinion of 
>her unwillingness to help me through unconventional means).....Nor can I 
>afford Bone Marrow Biopsies and more definitive narrowing of the 
>parameters of his drop in blood values ( it's Xmas eve and they are all 
>gone from the office)....   As much as I would like to save this little 
>guy... He has so many other things wrong with him that I don't know that 
>I am doing him any favors..... Temp is 104...weight has dropped a full 
>pound in the last 6 months.... If it weren't for the fact that he is 
>still eating heartily I'd put him down.... Without further treatment is 
>it kinder to put him down or allow nature to take it's course??.....The 
>idea of him suffering from an inability to get enough O2 is 
>unacceptable....
>any suggestions are welcome.... but... please...  no admonitions re: 
>what I _ should_ do.....    I have learned an immense amount from this 
>experience and will NOT repeat it...  My other boy is still doing OK and 
>I WILL find someone eventually that is willing to work with me..
>
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>> Randy
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>> The news is good. Whatever works. I am a big believer in keeping close 
>> tabs on the bloodwork and adjusting the medication, depending on what 
>> the lab results show.
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>> Given that Curley is eating and you are getting an improvement on the 
>> red cells already, I agree that the Winstrol and Doxy should help even 
>> more. Keep track of the blood work and adjust accordingly.
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>> Amani
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>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Randy Henke
>> Sent: December-23-16 11:02 AM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Questioning FELV diagnosis
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>> The situation with Curly is getting a bit more complicated but in a 
>> good way. Her blood work a week ago showed an RBC of 9 which is 
>> critically low. White cell count was 3.1. After one week of Prednisone 
>> her white cell count is 3.7 which is the low end of normal and her red 
>> blood cell count is up to 13 which is still very low but a very 
>> significant increase in just one week. So the Prednisone alone is 
>> making a big difference. We've now had two positive ELISA tests, a 
>> negative IFA and severe anemia that is responding well to just 
>> Prednisone. I am very confused. Even our vet seems surprised by the 
>> sudden improvement in her numbers. He thinks we should do a bone 
>> marrow biopsy for a definitive FELV diagnosis but I don't really want 
>> to put her through that procedure.
>> We did start the Winstrol a day ago so I would think that could only 
>> help more. We should be tapering down the Prednisone dose at this time 
>> but our vet now wants to continue the full dosage for another two 
>> weeks before running another CBC. And the Doxy will be started on 
>> Monday. I'm beginning to think she might pull out of this crisis and 
>> we might have a little more time with her.
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>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Ardy Robertson > wrote:
>> Best of luck to you with Curly ---- just wanted to mention there are 
>> appetite stimulant pills available. One that I remember that I used 
>> with Tigger was Mirtazapine and I only had to give a small part of a 
>> pill every 3 days. Amani knows of another one but I can?t remember the 
>> name of it.
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>> Ardy
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