[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 54
ROBERT CHAPEL
bchapel at optonline.net
Thu Dec 22 18:35:36 CST 2016
I hope this doesn't sound disrespectful... but I'm perplexed at all the
talk of whether or not an animal has or does NOT have the virus at 8,
10 and 12 years old... If an animal has lived this long it would
appear that he/she has a much milder form of the virus or a variant
about which little is known..... In truth though.... your cats have
already defied he odds and despite the sadness of having them (
potentially) have several years of life curtailed you will have had them
longer than the many Healthy cats I had a a youngster when it was not
uncommon for cats to die from any number of causes well before they were
10 years old..... If my boys live until 8 or 10 I will consider it
miraculous!!...... The kind of FeLV+ that REALLY concerns me is the
kind that my own boys have.... passed from the Queen.... established to
have moved into their marrow in the first 7 months of their
lives...Symptomatic from the time they were Kittens.... One looking (
yes there IS a "look" severely affected FeLV+ cats can have) very much
like a cat that simply is not going to last very long.... it is heart
wrenching to hold his little 5.8 lb body and feel all his ribs and
backbone despite his eating heartily.... He is barely a year and one
half and has already had IBD, Uveitis,Melting Corneal Ulcer, Keratitis,
Multiple bouts of Rhinitis, He is 70% blind..... I won't go on... If
he weren't not in obvious pain I would have put him down by now...
but... he is a good natured little boy who still loves his food and his
treats and curls up with me to keep warm because his body weight is so
low..... I can't tell you how happy it would make me to have him show
weight gain or be able to play again...( He's been able to play perhaps
one month of the time I've had him and his brother can't understand why
he can't play and still attacks him hoping to have a partner in his
games...... this is not what I expected when I adoped these boys but I
learned quickly...... may really have to foster another FeLV+ just so
the healthier one leaves my disabled one alone..... I've learned
quite a lot about the variants of FeLV since coming to this group but
honestly...... when I adopted these boys I never DREAMED of their
living to 8 years old and it seems quite a lot of people here are
discussing cats in that age range...... I'm having a hard time even
internalizing that as FeLV... Just wondering if there are many in the
group that have cats whose lives are being curtailed at VERY young ages
by this damnable Disease!!!
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> 1. Re: Negative IFA test (Corinne Shank)
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> From: Corinne Shank To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re:
> [Felvtalk] Negative IFA test
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> I think that there are many unknowns and that the virus can live in
> many forms. I have had my cat for almost 8 years. The last Elisa
> test on her before I took her in, at about 3 months, was negative
> (after an initial positive test). At the time I already had a cat
> (1.5 yo) who was negative. I was assured that she was negative and
> would not have Felv. They are both indoor cats and are not exposed to
> others. So why after having her for so long, does she now test
> Elisa positive and IFA negative? Has the virus been dormant for 8
> years? I have researched on Internet and it seems that there are many
> unknowns.
>
> It would have been impossible for me to separate my cats after 8 years
> together and the stress of keeping them apart would have been hard on
> them and me. So they live together and my other cat is fine so far
> (he is vaccinated).
>
> I found the following on the website of the SNap test manufacturer
> about discordant results and found the comment about true status not
> being known to be interesting.
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>
> this is an ELISA-positive and IFA-negative status. Discordant results
> may be due to the stage of infection, the variability of host
> responses, or technical problems with testing. The status of the cat
> with discordant results may eventually become clear by repeating both
> tests in 60 d and yearly thereafter until the test results agree.
> Unfortunately, a substantial number of these patients have
> persistently discordant test results and the cat?s true status may not
> be known. Cats with discordant test results are best considered as
> potential sources of infection for other cats.
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Dec 22, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Amy Glunt > wrote:
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> If my cat has tested negative on both, is it possible that she could
> be contagious in the future? I would like to get her a younger cat as
> a friend, especially now with her energy levels I think she would
> definitely benefit from having a feline partner. However I am not
> eager to have another cat with anemia and immune related issues. I
> figure if there's any chance of her shedding the virus, it's just not
> safe to bring another cat into the house, and I'm not sure how
> foolproof the vaccines are against the virus.
>
> Amy
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> On Dec 22, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Margo > wrote:
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> With a negative IFA, the cat should have no virus in a position to
> shed. It is either not present, or is sequestered in the bone marrow,
> and undetectable by IFA or Elisa. When a cat is shedding a virus, they
> are contagious. Is that what you mean?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Margo
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >
> Sent: Dec 22, 2016 8:12 AM
> To: "'felvtalk at felineleukemia.org'" >
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Negative IFA test
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> I had the same situation but when the IFA is negative, the cat should
> shed the virus after testing negative. They normally retest every 3
> months for the felv elisa test. The IFA test is 99.9% accurate.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of Corinne Shank
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:34 PM
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Negative IFA test
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> Amy,
>
> Your story is similar to mine. I think that there is so much that
> vets don't know about Felv, so it is great to hear from others with
> their situation. When I found out that she had Felv from the Elisa
> test, her blood work was fairly normal and since that time she has
> gained weight. So I think it is wait and see situation. She still
> likes to wake me up at 3:00 am ?, so I think she still feels good.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Amy Glunt > wrote:
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> I'm interested in replies to this as well. I have a somewhat similar
> experience which I have been pondering over. My own cat, Gravy, tested
> positive on the Elisa for FeLV in March when we took her in for an ear
> infection and persistent lethargy. A month ago she had both Elisa and
> IFA tests and was negative for both and the vet said that the leukemia
> must have gone dormant in her marrow but that she would still have a
> suppressed immune system and if she gets ill again, the leukemia could
> possibly flare back up.
> Also, I got the news today that after a month on Winstrol and
> prednisolone (we skipped the doxycycline since she was negative) her
> RBC has gone from 16 to 40. She is a whole new cat, it's absolutely
> incredible, and I owe it all to you guys here...my Christmas miracle!
> Sorry to hijack your post Corinne!
>
> Amy
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Corinne Shank > wrote:
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> My cat tested positive for Felv a few months ago from an Elisa test.
> I had her tested after she had persistent yeast ear infections and I
> had read that immune suppressed cats were prone to yeast infections.
> In addition, when she was a kitten she tested positive but then
> tested negative. I was told that she had shed the virus and that is
> why she tested negative. She is now 8 years old.
>
> So I put off getting the IFA test as I wanted to see how she did and I
> felt that she probably was infected. I finally took her in to get the
> test and it came back negative. So I know that the virus is not in
> her bone marrow. But what does this mean? The vet said to bring her
> back in 6 months for a snap test to see if she has shed the virus, but
> is this really possible?
>
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