[Felvtalk] FW: FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Tue Dec 20 18:42:20 CST 2016

Thanks for the tip Ardy. The pumpkin was a success in stopping a bad bout of
diarrhea for her. And she liked it. I had researched it and it said it was
good for constipation and diarrhea too. I will add this to my first aid kit
arsenal. Thank you again!

Sherri

From:  Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> on behalf of Ardy
Robertson <ardyr at centurytel.net>
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Date:  Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 11:21 PM
To:  <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Subject:  Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  FW:  FW:  Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

My cats always looked like they had a camel¹s hump when the vet gave them
sub-q fluids, until they soaked in. Sometimes mine would leak a little on
the outside as well. I also gave a small amount of pure pumpkin (not the
spicy pie kind) and this is an excellent fiber source to make them have a
bowel movement.
Ardy

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:34 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Amani, 

Is she ridding herself of the jaundice when it comes out that color?

I have never done it myself. I did call the vet before they closed today and
ask if I could bring her in for sub Q in the morning and they agreed. I have
given insulin in the nap of the neck, is it about the same? I will inquire
when and if I need to go in tomorrow. I can probably get everything I would
need there. The car ride stresses her so it would be easier on her if I did
it. How much do you have to give at a time? She won¹t sit still for very
long. She needs more fluids also because she hasn¹t had a bowel movement
still and has had probably close to 7 oz of food today. She only weighs 5.5
pounds so she is taking in quite a bit. We have gone through 2 cans but
really I end up wearing at least part of each helping.

Bogey ate on her own tonight! This foodŠNutros. She mostly licked it but I
added water and so there was more moisture. This cat has not slept very
much. I am constantly waking her to feed and water her. I feel like this
could be taxing her some and that she is not getting enough rest. I may feed
more in fewer feedings tomorrow. For an animal that probably slept 13 hours
a dayŠshe has probably only had 7 or 8 hours total in the last 2 days and
that is on the high side. Needless to say I am sleeping an equal amount. We
do everything we can don¹t we.

Thanks for the SUBQ info. I think with this many animals I should know how
to do it. If Bogey survives this, no doubt with her illness she will need to
have this done a few times in her life time.

Sherri

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> on behalf of Amani
Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
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Date: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 8:31 PM
To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Sherri

Even without the issue of jaundice, if Bogey is dehydrated, the urine will
be darker.

Sherri, do you know how to give subcutaneous fluids? It is very easy.
Perhaps ask your vet to show you how. You just lift the loose skin at the
back of the neck, and you inject or run fluids into that gap under the skin,
behind the neck. The body will absorb the fluids as needed, so there is
virtually no risk of giving too much fluid  any excess fluid is just peed
out.

It is a life-saving technique that I wouldn¹t be without. I always keep
several bags of fluid in the house (ringer¹s lactate/saline/5% dextrose  I
hang onto any bags I can get) for use in an emergency. A droopy cat will
often respond immediately and miraculously to subcutaneous fluids  usually
saline or the ringer¹s lactate.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 5:49 PM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Well I cannot seem to find anything that she will voluntarily drink. I think
chicken broth is next. She groomed herself some today. But the last time she
urinated it had started to turn more orange. Maybe this is expected? She
does have more bounce in her step. Walking straighter lines and less wobbly.
She is fighting me feeding her which is more her style. She meowed at me
today when I called her name. What a wonderful sound that was.

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> on behalf of Amani
Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
Reply-To: <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Date: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 8:04 AM
To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

You can take your milk and dilute it with warm water and stir it around.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 8:13 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Hi Amani. This morning¹s urine was also pretty clear. I will pick up some
baby food today. She isn¹t refusing to eat. She just is really too weak. If
I hold her and let her lick it off my hand she does great. Almost a half of
a 5.5 oz can already today. She has not vomited. I thought about milk but
she has yet to have a bowel movement and I didn¹t want to constipate her
more. I think I will offer her some at next feeding. I drink whole milk so I
think I will pick up some Whiskas today too.

I was surprised that the vet told me to start the Winstrol again so soon. I
thought that was not a good plan.

Thanks for the input Amani.

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> on behalf of Amani
Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
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Date: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 7:42 AM
To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Sherri

There isn¹t any hurry to get her back on the Winstrol. I would wait. Her
haematology numbers give you quite a significant cushion to rely upon.
Winstrol likely strains the liver, so you want the liver to rest for a
while. 

It sounds like she is better, though. I recommend baby food, which you can
syringe feed into her. Keep up the feeding. It is good that the first urine
was orange but the next wasn¹t. She is hopefully clearing out the bilirubin.
I think fluids are important to help with that, too. Have you tried some
very diluted milk or some Whiskas milk? That might encourage her to drink
some more.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 7:42 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Just a little update for any of you following Bogey¹s progress here or
others who find these posts helpful.

First day home from hospital. She of course wasn¹t interested in eating. But
I would sit with her and she would lick Hill¹s L/d and a/d from my finger.
She ate over a full can total. Every hour or so I gave her about a
tablespoon. Alternating between the two. I also am giving her water and a
few drops of Pedialite each time. The first time she urinated it was very
orange about 2 pm. She didn¹t urinate again until last night around 10 and
was clear. She actually went to her water dish last night and took a couple
of laps. She is still weak and wobbly. But she know where things are. Still
seems out of it though. I doubt that she slept at all while in the hospital
so I am just letting her rest. She is curled up on a bean bag chair right
now with a heating pad on her.

She isn¹t suffering or getting worse.

I have yet to start her back on the Winstrol but may do that today if the
jaundice continues to show improvement. Might make her feel stronger.

Thanks for reading.

Sherri
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