[Felvtalk] FW: FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

[Ardy Robertson]

My cats always looked like they had a camel’s hump when the vet gave them sub-q fluids, until they soaked in. Sometimes mine would leak a little on the outside as well. I also gave a small amount of pure pumpkin (not the spicy pie kind) and this is an excellent fiber source to make them have a bowel movement.

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:34 PM
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Amani, 

Is she ridding herself of the jaundice when it comes out that color?

 

I have never done it myself. I did call the vet before they closed today and ask if I could bring her in for sub Q in the morning and they agreed. I have given insulin in the nap of the neck, is it about the same? I will inquire when and if I need to go in tomorrow. I can probably get everything I would need there. The car ride stresses her so it would be easier on her if I did it. How much do you have to give at a time? She won’t sit still for very long. She needs more fluids also because she hasn’t had a bowel movement still and has had probably close to 7 oz of food today. She only weighs 5.5 pounds so she is taking in quite a bit. We have gone through 2 cans but really I end up wearing at least part of each helping.

 

Bogey ate on her own tonight! This food…Nutros. She mostly licked it but I added water and so there was more moisture. This cat has not slept very much. I am constantly waking her to feed and water her. I feel like this could be taxing her some and that she is not getting enough rest. I may feed more in fewer feedings tomorrow. For an animal that probably slept 13 hours a day…she has probably only had 7 or 8 hours total in the last 2 days and that is on the high side. Needless to say I am sleeping an equal amount. We do everything we can don’t we.

 

Thanks for the SUBQ info. I think with this many animals I should know how to do it. If Bogey survives this, no doubt with her illness she will need to have this done a few times in her life time.

 

Sherri

 

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Date: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 8:31 PM
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Sherri

 

Even without the issue of jaundice, if Bogey is dehydrated, the urine will be darker.

 

Sherri, do you know how to give subcutaneous fluids? It is very easy. Perhaps ask your vet to show you how. You just lift the loose skin at the back of the neck, and you inject or run fluids into that gap under the skin, behind the neck. The body will absorb the fluids as needed, so there is virtually no risk of giving too much fluid – any excess fluid is just peed out.

 

It is a life-saving technique that I wouldn’t be without. I always keep several bags of fluid in the house (ringer’s lactate/saline/5% dextrose – I hang onto any bags I can get) for use in an emergency. A droopy cat will often respond immediately and miraculously to subcutaneous fluids – usually saline or the ringer’s lactate.

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 5:49 PM
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Well I cannot seem to find anything that she will voluntarily drink. I think chicken broth is next. She groomed herself some today. But the last time she urinated it had started to turn more orange. Maybe this is expected? She does have more bounce in her step. Walking straighter lines and less wobbly. She is fighting me feeding her which is more her style. She meowed at me today when I called her name. What a wonderful sound that was.

 

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Date: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 8:04 AM
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You can take your milk and dilute it with warm water and stir it around. 

 

Amani

 

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Hi Amani. This morning’s urine was also pretty clear. I will pick up some baby food today. She isn’t refusing to eat. She just is really too weak. If I hold her and let her lick it off my hand she does great. Almost a half of a 5.5 oz can already today. She has not vomited. I thought about milk but she has yet to have a bowel movement and I didn’t want to constipate her more. I think I will offer her some at next feeding. I drink whole milk so I think I will pick up some Whiskas today too.

 

I was surprised that the vet told me to start the Winstrol again so soon. I thought that was not a good plan. 

 

Thanks for the input Amani.

 

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Date: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 7:42 AM
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Sherri

 

There isn’t any hurry to get her back on the Winstrol. I would wait. Her haematology numbers give you quite a significant cushion to rely upon. Winstrol likely strains the liver, so you want the liver to rest for a while. 

 

It sounds like she is better, though. I recommend baby food, which you can syringe feed into her. Keep up the feeding. It is good that the first urine was orange but the next wasn’t. She is hopefully clearing out the bilirubin. I think fluids are important to help with that, too. Have you tried some very diluted milk or some Whiskas milk? That might encourage her to drink some more.

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 7:42 AM
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Just a little update for any of you following Bogey’s progress here or others who find these posts helpful.

 

First day home from hospital. She of course wasn’t interested in eating. But I would sit with her and she would lick Hill’s L/d and a/d from my finger. She ate over a full can total. Every hour or so I gave her about a tablespoon. Alternating between the two. I also am giving her water and a  few drops of Pedialite each time. The first time she urinated it was very orange about 2 pm. She didn’t urinate again until last night around 10 and was clear. She actually went to her water dish last night and took a couple of laps. She is still weak and wobbly. But she know where things are. Still seems out of it though. I doubt that she slept at all while in the hospital so I am just letting her rest. She is curled up on a bean bag chair right now with a heating pad on her.

 

She isn’t suffering or getting worse.

 

I have yet to start her back on the Winstrol but may do that today if the jaundice continues to show improvement. Might make her feel stronger.

 

Thanks for reading.

 

Sherri

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