[Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Thu Dec 15 16:49:20 CST 2016

Well I cannot seem to find anything that she will voluntarily drink. I think
chicken broth is next. She groomed herself some today. But the last time she
urinated it had started to turn more orange. Maybe this is expected? She
does have more bounce in her step. Walking straighter lines and less wobbly.
She is fighting me feeding her which is more her style. She meowed at me
today when I called her name. What a wonderful sound that was.

From:  Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> on behalf of Amani
Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
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Date:  Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 8:04 AM
To:  "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Subject:  Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  FW:  Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

You can take your milk and dilute it with warm water and stir it around.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 8:13 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Hi Amani. This morning’s urine was also pretty clear. I will pick up some
baby food today. She isn’t refusing to eat. She just is really too weak. If
I hold her and let her lick it off my hand she does great. Almost a half of
a 5.5 oz can already today. She has not vomited. I thought about milk but
she has yet to have a bowel movement and I didn’t want to constipate her
more. I think I will offer her some at next feeding. I drink whole milk so I
think I will pick up some Whiskas today too.

I was surprised that the vet told me to start the Winstrol again so soon. I
thought that was not a good plan.

Thanks for the input Amani.

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> on behalf of Amani
Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
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Date: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 7:42 AM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Sherri

There isn’t any hurry to get her back on the Winstrol. I would wait. Her
haematology numbers give you quite a significant cushion to rely upon.
Winstrol likely strains the liver, so you want the liver to rest for a
while. 

It sounds like she is better, though. I recommend baby food, which you can
syringe feed into her. Keep up the feeding. It is good that the first urine
was orange but the next wasn’t. She is hopefully clearing out the bilirubin.
I think fluids are important to help with that, too. Have you tried some
very diluted milk or some Whiskas milk? That might encourage her to drink
some more.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: December-15-16 7:42 AM
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Just a little update for any of you following Bogey’s progress here or
others who find these posts helpful.

First day home from hospital. She of course wasn’t interested in eating. But
I would sit with her and she would lick Hill’s L/d and a/d from my finger.
She ate over a full can total. Every hour or so I gave her about a
tablespoon. Alternating between the two. I also am giving her water and a
few drops of Pedialite each time. The first time she urinated it was very
orange about 2 pm. She didn’t urinate again until last night around 10 and
was clear. She actually went to her water dish last night and took a couple
of laps. She is still weak and wobbly. But she know where things are. Still
seems out of it though. I doubt that she slept at all while in the hospital
so I am just letting her rest. She is curled up on a bean bag chair right
now with a heating pad on her.

She isn’t suffering or getting worse.

I have yet to start her back on the Winstrol but may do that today if the
jaundice continues to show improvement. Might make her feel stronger.

Thanks for reading.

Sherri

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org> on behalf of Amani
Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
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Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 9:21 PM
To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat

Sherri

The yellow discolouration takes a bit of time to ebb away. The more
important indicator of how she is doing is that she is more steady on her
feet and has an interest in eating. She has clearly improved, so don’t let
the yellow colour concern you. It should fade away on its own.

After tonight, if she is as good as you saw her today, I would take her
home. She needs to eat, and needs to be nudged to eat as much as possible.
That will help get rid of some of the bilirubin as some of it is excreted in
feces. It will also improve her outlook on life if she is eating again.

Later on, you can follow up on the glucose. Glucose doesn’t just rise above
the normal reference range with diabetes. Animals and people will have an
elevated glucose when the body is in crisis or in pain. Retest her at a time
when she is feeling better. For the potassium (which is the “K” number) it
is just barely low. I would not leave her at the vet’s or give her more
fluids just for that.

However, I would ask for her bloodwork to be retested after the fluids.
Ideally, you should start to see the bilirubin, GGT and ALT dropping. The
potassium may also now be in the reference range, and let’s see what the
glucose looks like.

One key thing I was taught was that you treat the patient, not the numbers.
I follow the lab numbers closely, but the more important thing, is how is
she doing. She is improving and hopefully will continue to do so. I think
that a retest of her blood work should confirm that.

Take her home as soon as possible and give her some TLC!

Was the can of salmon a can of catfood salmon or human food salmon? If
catfood, I understand that there have been incidents of liver failure
because of an additive/preservative called ethoxyquin which is added to fish
or fish meal. (Fish meal can also sometimes be contaminated with mycotoxins
which might also have a deleterious effect on the liver.) That might also
explain why the jaundice seemed to come on so suddenly after ingestion. Do a
Google search on the brand name and see if others have reported a problem.

Amani

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