[Felvtalk] Spelling...

ROBERT CHAPEL bchapel at optonline.net
Tue Aug 30 23:28:30 CDT 2016


Don't know if any of you are as fanatical about spelling as I am but I 
am embarrassed to have written " morning" rather than _ mourning_   
while referencing Karens kitties.....   
I remain sorry for your loss of Cole Karen and hope you can calm a bit 
about your other guys as Kitties , too, pick up on emotional states....  
Doesn't sound as though you need to be frantic about saving Ash's life 
from what you report so far..... He's eating,playing,peeing and pooping 
( EP3 as I call it : ) ....always a good sign.

Bob ( Warwick)


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> This discussion raises a question that I have wondered about for a 
> while.... my cats do not go outside but do go out on an upstairs porch 
> for a few minutes from time to time ( they love to sit in the 
> sun)....? They are not exposed directly to any other animals but I 
> suppose that it is possible that other animals that have fleas and 
> might have passed over the porch might have left eggs or an errant 
> flea or 3....? I don't like the idea of using?chemicals with these 
> Kitties unless it's for something that they absolutely need....?? I 
> spray them from time to time with " natural " Flea repellant ( 
> containing the usual herbs and spices claimed to be insect 
> repellant...which don't work all that well on me but I like to think 
> it's helping them at least a little bit : )
> Is it wise to use anything proactively that is a bit stronger..... it 
> is generally a lot easier to prevent infestation than to get rid of it 
> once it's taken hold.....? Again... I have no reason to expect that it 
> WILL happen but I am a frequent shelter volunteer and there is no 
> telling what I might bring into the house by accident...
> BTW...? for Karen....??? PLEASE do your best to rest more easy about 
> your other Kitties.... from what you write you don't have any 
> immediate life threatening emergency that precludes your morning cole
>
>
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>>    2. Re: Urgent help with flea treatment question (Margo)
>>    3. Re: Urgent help with flea treatment question (Sandy)
>>    4. Re: Urgent help with flea treatment question (Kelley S)
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>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:03:28 -0500
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>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
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>> I stopped usiong any flea drops, collars when one of my cats began 
>> loosing hair around the sit of applicatio.  They all had physical 
>> adverse signs so I stopped using them.  I now have lemon grass and 
>> catnip which repels fleas and ticks and have not had a problem for 
>> the last 5 years.
>>
>> ---- Amani Oakley  wrote:
>>> Hi Karen
>>>
>>> While I don?t have any reason to believe there is a link between use 
>>> of the Frontline Flea treatment and Cole?s problems, it is probably 
>>> wise to be cautious with a medication which is absorbed internally 
>>> and probably processed through the liver, etc. Just hypothetically, 
>>> it might be possible that cats with FeLV which is in abeyance (their 
>>> body has managed to hold off on the worst of the problems) may have 
>>> the balance tipped to the negative by something that might stress 
>>> their body and which might, in other cats, not cause a problem.
>>>
>>> However, I definitely agree you MUST control the fleas for Ash. As 
>>> you know, one of the worst effects of the FeLV virus is to cause an 
>>> anemia, and a flea infestation will no doubt hasten or worsen that 
>>> problem. Fleas also often pass on the Bartonella parasite, which 
>>> infects and destroys red cells in the host animal and causes other 
>>> problems. If Ash is doing okay, you don?t want to tip that scale.
>>>
>>> I recently picked up 3 stray kittens who had fleas. They were very 
>>> small (3-4 weeks old) so I didn?t trust any of the absorbed 
>>> treatments since I figured their little livers may well be damaged 
>>> by such early exposure. I therefore purchased a flea spray which was 
>>> supposed to remain on them, but again, I didn?t want to do that. I 
>>> didn?t want that type of exposure. I simply bathed them, sprayed 
>>> them with the flea spray, killed the fleas by hand as they leapt off 
>>> into the sink, and combed out the rest, and then I washed the 
>>> kittens completely off with organic shampoo. Despite washing them 
>>> off, I found a few remaining fleas for the next day or so but they 
>>> were all dead or dying. When I go home tonight, I will get the name 
>>> of the product for you, but I suspect you can do this with any of 
>>> the spray on flea products.
>>>
>>> One thing I did years ago when we got a very bad flea infestation 
>>> (thanks to a woman who insisted the cats I was taking from her to 
>>> adopt out were defleaed already!), was that once I washed each cat, 
>>> I had previously made arrangements for friends to take one of them 
>>> for a few weeks. My husband and I were doing some heavy duty 
>>> fostering at the time, so we had about 25 cats in the house. One by 
>>> one or two by two, I cleaned them off, bundled them off to friends I 
>>> had prearranged with, and then when the whole house was empty, we 
>>> washed whatever we could, and we used some heavy duty flea killer on 
>>> carpets, etc. and my husband and I spent a few nights at a motel 
>>> room. We never had any more flea problems after that.
>>>
>>> You only have one cat so if the problem is bad enough, I suggest 
>>> something along the lines of what we did. Find a friend or a 
>>> relative who will take Ash for a week or so, when he?s out, wash 
>>> everything in sight, and buy some high powered flea stuff and spray 
>>> the house. Leave for a few days.
>>>
>>> Hopefully, it works as well for you as it did for us.
>>>
>>> Amani
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Karen Harshbarger
>>> Sent: August-30-16 3:24 PM
>>> To: Felvtalk
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
>>>
>>>   As most of you know, we lost our Cole to feline leukemia and liver 
>>> complications this month.  I don't have time to morn my dear sweet 
>>> Cole as I am struggling to save his brother Ash.  Ash tested 
>>> positive again this month (4 years ago tested positive once and then 
>>> negative twice).  However his blood work shows everything in the 
>>> normal range and he is eating and playing and going to the bathroom 
>>> and seems healthy, so the vet has recommended no treatment or 
>>> preventatives at this time.  They only suggest another blood work 
>>> check in one to 4 months and flea treatment.
>>>
>>> Ash and  his brother have fleas.  I know I must treat but that seems 
>>> like when Cole started going downhill----when I treated for fleas 
>>> with Frontline twice.
>>> Frontline did nothing for the fleas, even though I threw away all 
>>> beds and blankets and cleaned their living quarters.  I fear that 
>>> the fleas or treatment or both did something to Cole to take his 
>>> life. But I know I have to treat fleas too.  I have tried combing 
>>> everyday, but that does not work either.
>>>
>>> Has anyone used Vectra flea treatment for cats.  It has worked well 
>>> for me for other cats, but I fear that it might be too strong for 
>>> our Ash with the feline leukemia.  As I said I used Frontline 
>>> originally cause I was told it was safer because it could be used on 
>>> young kittens even.  Ash is 4 1/2 years old and I know I have to do 
>>> something about the fleas.  Please let me know if you have used 
>>> Vectra flea treatment.  Or if you use something else successfully or 
>>> don't use flea treatment at all with feline leukemia.  Ash never 
>>> goes outside, so I don't know where they got the fleas unless at vet 
>>> or we brought the fleas in from outside on shoes, etc.
>>>
>>> Please Help----this is urgent as I feel I must do something to get 
>>> rid of fleas that already seem out of hand since 2 treatments of 
>>> Frontline did not work, and I am so worried about anything with Ash 
>>> with his positive on the feline leukemia test at the vet and after 
>>> loosing Cole.  My heart just cant loose another of my fur babies. 
>>> Please Help!!!
>>>
>>> Thank you, Karen and kitties Ash and BJ and angle Cole
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:33:53 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>> From: Margo To: Karen Harshbarger ,
>> 	felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
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>> From: Sandy To: Margo , felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
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>> Use Deamateous Earth _ FOOD GRADE - think the spelling may be off - I 
>> believe it's available from Home Depot or order online Sandy W
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Margo"  To: "Karen Harshbarger" , felvtalk at felineleukemia.org 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:33:53 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 
>> Urgent help with flea treatment question
>>
>> I'm having flea issues, as well. Mako went to a specialist (for 
>> non-FeLV related problems) and they recommended Comfortis. I had to 
>> order from Valley Vet, and gave it to him 8/26. So far so good. It 
>> seems to have done the job, but I also use flea traps, and treated 
>> the other cats as well. For most of the year, I was okay using 
>> (generic) Capstar and flea traps.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Karen Harshbarger Sent: Aug 30, 2016 
>> 3:23 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea 
>> treatment question
>> As most of you know, we lost our Cole to feline leukemia and liver 
>> complications this month. I don't have time to morn my dear sweet 
>> Cole as I am struggling to save his brother Ash. Ash tested positive 
>> again this month (4 years ago tested positive once and then negative 
>> twice). However his blood work shows everything in the normal range 
>> and he is eating and playing and going to the bathroom and seems 
>> healthy, so the vet has recommended no treatment or preventatives at 
>> this time. They only suggest another blood work check in one to 4 
>> months and flea treatment.
>> Ash and his brother have fleas. I know I must treat but that seems 
>> like when Cole started going downhill----when I treated for fleas 
>> with Frontline twice. Frontline did nothing for the fleas, even 
>> though I threw away all beds and blankets and cleaned their living 
>> quarters. I fear that the fleas or treatment or both did something to 
>> Cole to take his life. But I know I have to treat fleas too. I have 
>> tried combing everyday, but that does not work either.
>> Has anyone used Vectra flea treatment for cats. It has worked well 
>> for me for other cats, but I fear that it might be too strong for our 
>> Ash with the feline leukemia. As I said I used Frontline originally 
>> cause I was told it was safer because it could be used on young 
>> kittens even. Ash is 4 1/2 years old and I know I have to do 
>> something about the fleas. Please let me know if you have used Vectra 
>> flea treatment. Or if you use something else successfully or don't 
>> use flea treatment at all with feline leukemia. Ash never goes 
>> outside, so I don't know where they got the fleas unless at vet or we 
>> brought the fleas in from outside on shoes, etc.
>> Please Help----this is urgent as I feel I must do something to get 
>> rid of fleas that already seem out of hand since 2 treatments of 
>> Frontline did not work, and I am so worried about anything with Ash 
>> with his positive on the feline leukemia test at the vet and after 
>> loosing Cole. My heart just cant loose another of my fur babies. 
>> Please Help!!!
>> Thank you, Karen and kitties Ash and BJ and angle Cole
>>
>>
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>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:35:44 -0500
>> From: Kelley S To: felvtalk Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with 
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>> Timmy's Dirty Flea Soap is the best.  http://www.dirtyflea.com/
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Sandy  wrote:
>>
>>> Use Deamateous Earth _ FOOD GRADE  - think the spelling may be off - 
>>> I
>>> believe it's available from Home Depot or order online
>>> Sandy W
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Margo" *To: *"Karen Harshbarger" ,
>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:33:53 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm having flea issues, as well. Mako went to a specialist (for 
>>> non-FeLV
>>> related problems) and they recommended Comfortis. I had to order 
>>> from
>>> Valley Vet, and gave it to him 8/26. So far so good. It seems to 
>>> have done
>>> the job, but I also use flea traps, and treated the other cats as 
>>> well. For
>>> most of the year, I was okay using (generic) Capstar and flea traps.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Karen Harshbarger
>>> Sent: Aug 30, 2016 3:23 PM
>>> To: Felvtalk
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
>>>
>>>   As most of you know, we lost our Cole to feline leukemia and liver
>>> complications this month.  I don't have time to morn my dear sweet 
>>> Cole as
>>> I am struggling to save his brother Ash.  Ash tested positive again 
>>> this
>>> month (4 years ago tested positive once and then negative twice). 
>>> However
>>> his blood work shows everything in the normal range and he is eating 
>>> and
>>> playing and going to the bathroom and seems healthy, so the vet has
>>> recommended no treatment or preventatives at this time.  They only 
>>> suggest
>>> another blood work check in one to 4 months and flea treatment.
>>>
>>> Ash and  his brother have fleas.  I know I must treat but that seems 
>>> like
>>> when Cole started going downhill----when I treated for fleas with 
>>> Frontline
>>> twice.
>>> Frontline did nothing for the fleas, even though I threw away all 
>>> beds and
>>> blankets and cleaned their living quarters.  I fear that the fleas 
>>> or
>>> treatment or both did something to Cole to take his life.  But I 
>>> know I
>>> have to treat fleas too.  I have tried combing everyday, but that 
>>> does not
>>> work either.
>>>
>>> Has anyone used Vectra flea treatment for cats.  It has worked well 
>>> for me
>>> for other cats, but I fear that it might be too strong for our Ash 
>>> with the
>>> feline leukemia.  As I said I used Frontline originally cause I was 
>>> told it
>>> was safer because it could be used on young kittens even.  Ash is 4 
>>> 1/2
>>> years old and I know I have to do something about the fleas.  Please 
>>> let me
>>> know if you have used Vectra flea treatment.  Or if you use 
>>> something else
>>> successfully or don't use flea treatment at all with feline 
>>> leukemia. Ash
>>> never goes outside, so I don't know where they got the fleas unless 
>>> at vet
>>> or we brought the fleas in from outside on shoes, etc.
>>>
>>> Please Help----this is urgent as I feel I must do something to get 
>>> rid of
>>> fleas that already seem out of hand since 2 treatments of Frontline 
>>> did not
>>> work, and I am so worried about anything with Ash with his positive 
>>> on the
>>> feline leukemia test at the vet and after loosing Cole.  My heart 
>>> just cant
>>> loose another of my fur babies.  Please Help!!!
>>>
>>> Thank you, Karen and kitties Ash and BJ and angle Cole
>>>
>>>
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> From: ROBERT CHAPEL To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Cc: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Prevention....
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> This discussion raises a question that I have wondered about for a 
> while.... my cats do not go outside but do go out on an upstairs porch 
> for a few minutes from time to time ( they love to sit in the 
> sun)....? They are not exposed directly to any other animals but I 
> suppose that it is possible that other animals that have fleas and 
> might have passed over the porch might have left eggs or an errant 
> flea or 3....? I don't like the idea of using?chemicals with these 
> Kitties unless it's for something that they absolutely need....?? I 
> spray them from time to time with " natural " Flea repellant ( 
> containing the usual herbs and spices claimed to be insect 
> repellant...which don't work all that well on me but I like to think 
> it's helping them at least a little bit : )
> Is it wise to use anything proactively that is a bit stronger..... it 
> is generally a lot easier to prevent infestation than to get rid of it 
> once it's taken hold.....? Again... I have no reason to expect that it 
> WILL happen but I am a frequent shelter volunteer and there is no 
> telling what I might bring into the house by accident...
> BTW...? for Karen....??? PLEASE do your best to rest more easy about 
> your other Kitties.... from what you write you don't have any 
> immediate life threatening emergency that precludes your morning cole
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 08:36 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org 
> wrote:
>
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>>    1. Re: Urgent help with flea treatment question
>>       (dlgegg at windstream.net)
>>    2. Re: Urgent help with flea treatment question (Margo)
>>    3. Re: Urgent help with flea treatment question (Sandy)
>>    4. Re: Urgent help with flea treatment question (Kelley S)
>>
>>
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:03:28 -0500
>> From: To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
>> Message-ID: <20160830160328.OTWNN.22850.root at pamxwww05-z01>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> I stopped usiong any flea drops, collars when one of my cats began 
>> loosing hair around the sit of applicatio.  They all had physical 
>> adverse signs so I stopped using them.  I now have lemon grass and 
>> catnip which repels fleas and ticks and have not had a problem for 
>> the last 5 years.
>>
>> ---- Amani Oakley  wrote:
>>> Hi Karen
>>>
>>> While I don?t have any reason to believe there is a link between use 
>>> of the Frontline Flea treatment and Cole?s problems, it is probably 
>>> wise to be cautious with a medication which is absorbed internally 
>>> and probably processed through the liver, etc. Just hypothetically, 
>>> it might be possible that cats with FeLV which is in abeyance (their 
>>> body has managed to hold off on the worst of the problems) may have 
>>> the balance tipped to the negative by something that might stress 
>>> their body and which might, in other cats, not cause a problem.
>>>
>>> However, I definitely agree you MUST control the fleas for Ash. As 
>>> you know, one of the worst effects of the FeLV virus is to cause an 
>>> anemia, and a flea infestation will no doubt hasten or worsen that 
>>> problem. Fleas also often pass on the Bartonella parasite, which 
>>> infects and destroys red cells in the host animal and causes other 
>>> problems. If Ash is doing okay, you don?t want to tip that scale.
>>>
>>> I recently picked up 3 stray kittens who had fleas. They were very 
>>> small (3-4 weeks old) so I didn?t trust any of the absorbed 
>>> treatments since I figured their little livers may well be damaged 
>>> by such early exposure. I therefore purchased a flea spray which was 
>>> supposed to remain on them, but again, I didn?t want to do that. I 
>>> didn?t want that type of exposure. I simply bathed them, sprayed 
>>> them with the flea spray, killed the fleas by hand as they leapt off 
>>> into the sink, and combed out the rest, and then I washed the 
>>> kittens completely off with organic shampoo. Despite washing them 
>>> off, I found a few remaining fleas for the next day or so but they 
>>> were all dead or dying. When I go home tonight, I will get the name 
>>> of the product for you, but I suspect you can do this with any of 
>>> the spray on flea products.
>>>
>>> One thing I did years ago when we got a very bad flea infestation 
>>> (thanks to a woman who insisted the cats I was taking from her to 
>>> adopt out were defleaed already!), was that once I washed each cat, 
>>> I had previously made arrangements for friends to take one of them 
>>> for a few weeks. My husband and I were doing some heavy duty 
>>> fostering at the time, so we had about 25 cats in the house. One by 
>>> one or two by two, I cleaned them off, bundled them off to friends I 
>>> had prearranged with, and then when the whole house was empty, we 
>>> washed whatever we could, and we used some heavy duty flea killer on 
>>> carpets, etc. and my husband and I spent a few nights at a motel 
>>> room. We never had any more flea problems after that.
>>>
>>> You only have one cat so if the problem is bad enough, I suggest 
>>> something along the lines of what we did. Find a friend or a 
>>> relative who will take Ash for a week or so, when he?s out, wash 
>>> everything in sight, and buy some high powered flea stuff and spray 
>>> the house. Leave for a few days.
>>>
>>> Hopefully, it works as well for you as it did for us.
>>>
>>> Amani
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Karen Harshbarger
>>> Sent: August-30-16 3:24 PM
>>> To: Felvtalk
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
>>>
>>>   As most of you know, we lost our Cole to feline leukemia and liver 
>>> complications this month.  I don't have time to morn my dear sweet 
>>> Cole as I am struggling to save his brother Ash.  Ash tested 
>>> positive again this month (4 years ago tested positive once and then 
>>> negative twice).  However his blood work shows everything in the 
>>> normal range and he is eating and playing and going to the bathroom 
>>> and seems healthy, so the vet has recommended no treatment or 
>>> preventatives at this time.  They only suggest another blood work 
>>> check in one to 4 months and flea treatment.
>>>
>>> Ash and  his brother have fleas.  I know I must treat but that seems 
>>> like when Cole started going downhill----when I treated for fleas 
>>> with Frontline twice.
>>> Frontline did nothing for the fleas, even though I threw away all 
>>> beds and blankets and cleaned their living quarters.  I fear that 
>>> the fleas or treatment or both did something to Cole to take his 
>>> life. But I know I have to treat fleas too.  I have tried combing 
>>> everyday, but that does not work either.
>>>
>>> Has anyone used Vectra flea treatment for cats.  It has worked well 
>>> for me for other cats, but I fear that it might be too strong for 
>>> our Ash with the feline leukemia.  As I said I used Frontline 
>>> originally cause I was told it was safer because it could be used on 
>>> young kittens even.  Ash is 4 1/2 years old and I know I have to do 
>>> something about the fleas.  Please let me know if you have used 
>>> Vectra flea treatment.  Or if you use something else successfully or 
>>> don't use flea treatment at all with feline leukemia.  Ash never 
>>> goes outside, so I don't know where they got the fleas unless at vet 
>>> or we brought the fleas in from outside on shoes, etc.
>>>
>>> Please Help----this is urgent as I feel I must do something to get 
>>> rid of fleas that already seem out of hand since 2 treatments of 
>>> Frontline did not work, and I am so worried about anything with Ash 
>>> with his positive on the feline leukemia test at the vet and after 
>>> loosing Cole.  My heart just cant loose another of my fur babies. 
>>> Please Help!!!
>>>
>>> Thank you, Karen and kitties Ash and BJ and angle Cole
>>
>>
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>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:33:53 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>> From: Margo To: Karen Harshbarger ,
>> 	felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
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>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 23:39:03 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Sandy To: Margo , felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
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>> Use Deamateous Earth _ FOOD GRADE - think the spelling may be off - I 
>> believe it's available from Home Depot or order online Sandy W
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Margo"  To: "Karen Harshbarger" , felvtalk at felineleukemia.org 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:33:53 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 
>> Urgent help with flea treatment question
>>
>> I'm having flea issues, as well. Mako went to a specialist (for 
>> non-FeLV related problems) and they recommended Comfortis. I had to 
>> order from Valley Vet, and gave it to him 8/26. So far so good. It 
>> seems to have done the job, but I also use flea traps, and treated 
>> the other cats as well. For most of the year, I was okay using 
>> (generic) Capstar and flea traps.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Karen Harshbarger Sent: Aug 30, 2016 
>> 3:23 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea 
>> treatment question
>> As most of you know, we lost our Cole to feline leukemia and liver 
>> complications this month. I don't have time to morn my dear sweet 
>> Cole as I am struggling to save his brother Ash. Ash tested positive 
>> again this month (4 years ago tested positive once and then negative 
>> twice). However his blood work shows everything in the normal range 
>> and he is eating and playing and going to the bathroom and seems 
>> healthy, so the vet has recommended no treatment or preventatives at 
>> this time. They only suggest another blood work check in one to 4 
>> months and flea treatment.
>> Ash and his brother have fleas. I know I must treat but that seems 
>> like when Cole started going downhill----when I treated for fleas 
>> with Frontline twice. Frontline did nothing for the fleas, even 
>> though I threw away all beds and blankets and cleaned their living 
>> quarters. I fear that the fleas or treatment or both did something to 
>> Cole to take his life. But I know I have to treat fleas too. I have 
>> tried combing everyday, but that does not work either.
>> Has anyone used Vectra flea treatment for cats. It has worked well 
>> for me for other cats, but I fear that it might be too strong for our 
>> Ash with the feline leukemia. As I said I used Frontline originally 
>> cause I was told it was safer because it could be used on young 
>> kittens even. Ash is 4 1/2 years old and I know I have to do 
>> something about the fleas. Please let me know if you have used Vectra 
>> flea treatment. Or if you use something else successfully or don't 
>> use flea treatment at all with feline leukemia. Ash never goes 
>> outside, so I don't know where they got the fleas unless at vet or we 
>> brought the fleas in from outside on shoes, etc.
>> Please Help----this is urgent as I feel I must do something to get 
>> rid of fleas that already seem out of hand since 2 treatments of 
>> Frontline did not work, and I am so worried about anything with Ash 
>> with his positive on the feline leukemia test at the vet and after 
>> loosing Cole. My heart just cant loose another of my fur babies. 
>> Please Help!!!
>> Thank you, Karen and kitties Ash and BJ and angle Cole
>>
>>
>>
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>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:35:44 -0500
>> From: Kelley S To: felvtalk Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with 
>> flea treatment question
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>> Timmy's Dirty Flea Soap is the best.  http://www.dirtyflea.com/
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Sandy  wrote:
>>
>>> Use Deamateous Earth _ FOOD GRADE  - think the spelling may be off - 
>>> I
>>> believe it's available from Home Depot or order online
>>> Sandy W
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Margo" *To: *"Karen Harshbarger" ,
>>> felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:33:53 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm having flea issues, as well. Mako went to a specialist (for 
>>> non-FeLV
>>> related problems) and they recommended Comfortis. I had to order 
>>> from
>>> Valley Vet, and gave it to him 8/26. So far so good. It seems to 
>>> have done
>>> the job, but I also use flea traps, and treated the other cats as 
>>> well. For
>>> most of the year, I was okay using (generic) Capstar and flea traps.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Karen Harshbarger
>>> Sent: Aug 30, 2016 3:23 PM
>>> To: Felvtalk
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Urgent help with flea treatment question
>>>
>>>   As most of you know, we lost our Cole to feline leukemia and liver
>>> complications this month.  I don't have time to morn my dear sweet 
>>> Cole as
>>> I am struggling to save his brother Ash.  Ash tested positive again 
>>> this
>>> month (4 years ago tested positive once and then negative twice). 
>>> However
>>> his blood work shows everything in the normal range and he is eating 
>>> and
>>> playing and going to the bathroom and seems healthy, so the vet has
>>> recommended no treatment or preventatives at this time.  They only 
>>> suggest
>>> another blood work check in one to 4 months and flea treatment.
>>>
>>> Ash and  his brother have fleas.  I know I must treat but that seems 
>>> like
>>> when Cole started going downhill----when I treated for fleas with 
>>> Frontline
>>> twice.
>>> Frontline did nothing for the fleas, even though I threw away all 
>>> beds and
>>> blankets and cleaned their living quarters.  I fear that the fleas 
>>> or
>>> treatment or both did something to Cole to take his life.  But I 
>>> know I
>>> have to treat fleas too.  I have tried combing everyday, but that 
>>> does not
>>> work either.
>>>
>>> Has anyone used Vectra flea treatment for cats.  It has worked well 
>>> for me
>>> for other cats, but I fear that it might be too strong for our Ash 
>>> with the
>>> feline leukemia.  As I said I used Frontline originally cause I was 
>>> told it
>>> was safer because it could be used on young kittens even.  Ash is 4 
>>> 1/2
>>> years old and I know I have to do something about the fleas.  Please 
>>> let me
>>> know if you have used Vectra flea treatment.  Or if you use 
>>> something else
>>> successfully or don't use flea treatment at all with feline 
>>> leukemia. Ash
>>> never goes outside, so I don't know where they got the fleas unless 
>>> at vet
>>> or we brought the fleas in from outside on shoes, etc.
>>>
>>> Please Help----this is urgent as I feel I must do something to get 
>>> rid of
>>> fleas that already seem out of hand since 2 treatments of Frontline 
>>> did not
>>> work, and I am so worried about anything with Ash with his positive 
>>> on the
>>> feline leukemia test at the vet and after loosing Cole.  My heart 
>>> just cant
>>> loose another of my fur babies.  Please Help!!!
>>>
>>> Thank you, Karen and kitties Ash and BJ and angle Cole
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Felvtalk mailing list
>>> Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>>
>>> 
>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>>>
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