[Felvtalk] Sherries Vet

Sherri Godschalk skgodschalk61 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 17 14:43:22 CDT 2016


I replied incorrectly to your question on this thread. Bit of amateur.  I
am in Fort Wayne, IN

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:01 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL <bchapel at optonline.net>
wrote:

> Sherrie....
>
> Where are you located??    We have been back and forth SO many times here
> about how to get a vet to prescribe Stanazole and here your vet prescribes
> it unbidden!!!!  At least for a Felv+ cat I'd stay with this one for a
> while.... Really hope your Kitty responds..
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:38 PM, felvtalk-request at felineleukemia.org
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>>    1. Can't eat (Karen Harshbarger)
>>    2. Re: Can't eat (dlgegg at windstream.net)
>>    3. Re: Can't eat (Katherine K.)
>>    4. My Leuk + kitten and disgraceful vet (Sherri Godschalk)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 02:30:09 -0700
>> From: Karen Harshbarger To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Can't eat
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>> I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
>> rescue from our yard
>> We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door
>>  We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them Outside
>> and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens showed up and
>> old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They found out one if
>> them tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest of ours and all
>> but the one female tested positive. So we cleaned out our garage,
>> insulated, heated, air conditioned and sheltered them there. No matter what
>> we did little Tig was so sick That he died before he was a yr old. He was
>> such a sweet little cat that considered everything and anyone a toy--so
>> sad. The rest tested negative the next two test. We all lived happily for
>> next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole stopped eating.
>>
>>  Took him to vet and here is bad part.
>> Tested positive for feline leukemia again
>> Bun10 (16-3(
>> Alt 294(12-130)
>> Alkp 144(14-111)
>> Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
>> Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
>> Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
>> Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
>> Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
>> Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
>> Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
>> Plt 39(151-600)
>> Rest was in normal range
>> The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b
>> complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
>>
>> But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few
>> days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have not
>> been able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up.
>> He threw up food three times and phlem or hair.  He is very alert,
>> drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd today
>> He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole back
>> today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of
>> clavamox.  I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only
>> licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start.  Later this evening
>> after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!!  He
>> seems to have a good day, but then has setback with throwup--- three times
>> he has done that .  He has lost a pound in 6 days!!.  So worried cause he
>> cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.
>> His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in
>> normal range and seems ti be doing fine.  His other brother BJ tested
>> negative and bloodwork all normal range.  Vet suggested no treatment for
>> them.  I housed them together and seperated Cole.
>>
>> I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and
>> keeps throwing up syringed food.  Also worried about Ash's positive test
>> for feline leukemia again.
>> Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
>> Please advise as soon as possible.  Thank you from Cole, his family and I
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>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:15:49 -0500
>> From: To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Cc: Karen Harshbarger Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat
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>> I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my
>> prayers.
>>
>> ---- Karen Harshbarger  wrote:
>>
>>> I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
>>> rescue from our yard
>>> We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door
>>>  We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them
>>> Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens
>>> showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They
>>> found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest
>>> of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we cleaned out our
>>> garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and sheltered them there. No
>>> matter what we did little Tig was so sick That he died before he was a yr
>>> old. He was such a sweet little cat that considered everything and anyone a
>>> toy--so sad. The rest tested negative the next two test. We all lived
>>> happily for next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole stopped eating.
>>>
>>>  Took him to vet and here is bad part.
>>> Tested positive for feline leukemia again
>>> Bun10 (16-3(
>>> Alt 294(12-130)
>>> Alkp 144(14-111)
>>> Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
>>> Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
>>> Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
>>> Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
>>> Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
>>> Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
>>> Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
>>> Plt 39(151-600)
>>> Rest was in normal range
>>> The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b
>>> complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
>>>
>>> But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few
>>> days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have not
>>> been able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up.
>>> He threw up food three times and phlem or hair.  He is very alert,
>>> drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd today
>>> He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole
>>> back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of
>>> clavamox.  I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only
>>> licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start.  Later this evening
>>> after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!!  He
>>> seems to have a good day, but then has setback with throwup--- three times
>>> he has done that .  He has lost a pound in 6 days!!.  So worried cause he
>>> cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.
>>> His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in
>>> normal range and seems ti be doing fine.  His other brother BJ tested
>>> negative and bloodwork all normal range.  Vet suggested no treatment for
>>> them.  I housed them together and seperated Cole.
>>>
>>> I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and
>>> keeps throwing up syringed food.  Also worried about Ash's positive test
>>> for feline leukemia again.
>>> Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
>>> Please advise as soon as possible.  Thank you from Cole, his family and I
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:31:54 -0400
>> From: "Katherine K." To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Cc: Karen
>> Harshbarger Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat
>> Message-ID:
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>> Kitties stop eating for a number of reasons. I can only speak from my
>> experiences. My FeLV kitty stopped eating and gagged on syringe fed food
>> when he had enlarged lymph nodes pressing against his stomach and
>> esophagus. The lymphoma was the end for him, and I wish I had not waited
>> so
>> long to take him in because I feel he suffered on the last day.
>>
>> My other FELV cat has stopped eating numerous times in his life. Once,
>> because he had an upper respiratory infection causing general malaise and
>> inability to smell his food. Antibiotics and Hills A/D helped with that.
>> More recently it was from stomatitis - inflammation of his gums. He would
>> run in pain every time he took a bite. Hiding under the bed and crying.
>>
>> With all the throwing up I would also be worried about dehydration. If
>> he's
>> nauseated, ask your vet about pepcid and/or an appetite stimulant like
>> mirtazapine. I use a handheld immersion blender to blend up cans of food
>> with water. Makes it into a soup and they can lick it up easily. But
>> sometimes you just have to syringe feed.
>>
>> I'm sorry, I know exactly how this feels. Just give him lots of love.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my
>>> prayers.
>>>
>>> ---- Karen Harshbarger  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
>>>>
>>> rescue from our yard
>>>
>>>> We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door
>>>>  We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them
>>>>
>>> Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens
>>> showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They
>>> found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest
>>> of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we cleaned out our
>>> garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and sheltered them there. No
>>> matter what we did little Tig was so sick That he died before he was a yr
>>> old. He was such a sweet little cat that considered everything and
>>> anyone a
>>> toy--so sad. The rest tested negative the next two test. We all lived
>>> happily for next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole stopped eating.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Took him to vet and here is bad part.
>>>> Tested positive for feline leukemia again
>>>> Bun10 (16-3(
>>>> Alt 294(12-130)
>>>> Alkp 144(14-111)
>>>> Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
>>>> Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
>>>> Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
>>>> Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
>>>> Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
>>>> Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
>>>> Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
>>>> Plt 39(151-600)
>>>> Rest was in normal range
>>>> The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b
>>>>
>>> complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few
>>>>
>>> days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have
>>> not
>>> been able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up.
>>> He threw up food three times and phlem or hair.  He is very alert,
>>> drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd today
>>>
>>>> He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole
>>>>
>>> back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of
>>> clavamox.  I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only
>>> licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start.  Later this evening
>>> after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!! He
>>> seems to have a good day, but then has setback with throwup--- three
>>> times
>>> he has done that .  He has lost a pound in 6 days!!.  So worried cause he
>>> cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in
>>>>
>>> normal range and seems ti be doing fine.  His other brother BJ tested
>>> negative and bloodwork all normal range.  Vet suggested no treatment for
>>> them.  I housed them together and seperated Cole.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and
>>>>
>>> keeps throwing up syringed food.  Also worried about Ash's positive
>>> test for feline leukemia again.
>>>
>>>> Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
>>>> Please advise as soon as possible.  Thank you from Cole, his family and
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:48:06 -0400
>> From: Sherri Godschalk To: Subject: [Felvtalk] My Leuk + kitten and
>> disgraceful vet
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>> Thanks for accepting me into the group.
>>
>> The stray kitten that I adopted tested positive for Leukemia two weeks
>> ago.
>> I was so heartbroken to hear this news. And just as heartbroken to get the
>> response I did from my vet.
>>
>> My Bogie, she was always small, playful and a terror, which I loved. She
>> also was going in and out of heat quite often and was waiting for a break
>> in
>> the action so I could get her spayed. Before I could I noticed she had
>> slowed down some?stopped knocking things off all of the tables and shelves
>> and started sleeping more. I took her to my vet right away. I asked them
>> right away to do a FELV test as well as the exam. Before they would even
>> look at her really, they gave her rabies and distemper vaccines. Vet said
>> she was healthy and just small and that I should spay her soon. I was
>> making
>> the appointment at the front desk when Dr told me to come back into the
>> room. She said Bogie scored a faint positive for Leukemia and we should
>> do a
>> total blood evaluation and send out some blood to a lab in Indianapolis to
>> verify. In the same breath she told me to consider putting my girl to
>> sleep?even without knowing for certain. Shocked me a little about her. I
>> said no. The diagnosis was confirmed?positive. And that she was severely
>> anemic. RBC 13. They put her on Prednisone and an antibiotic and had me
>> come
>> back next week for another blood test. I had them also run the FEVL again,
>> just to make sure. Still positive. Her count went up to 17. So not much
>> improvement. We set up another appointment for the next week for a
>> recheck.
>> The vet called me later the same day and said that the count had dropped
>> to
>> 15 so it this wasn?t working. So I asked her what the plan was and what do
>> we try next. She said there was no next. She would give me pills to keep
>> Bogie comfortable but there was nothing else she was WILLING to do. ?There
>> are plenty of healthy cats out there that need homes? was her advice to
>> me.
>> I said ?This is my cat and she deserves a chance? and hung up. I was
>> furious.
>> I was able to get into see a vet that I used to take my pets to. I asked
>> the
>> woman making the appointment if I could leave the kitten at home for this
>> appointment as she was just getting over the prior visit just 2 days
>> before
>> and they agreed. I thought that was nice of them. He explained so
>> thoroughly
>> what was going on with Bogey. Why things were not working. He prescribed
>> Stanzolol 2mg once a day along with the Prednisone once a day. He said if
>> my
>> baby doesn?t respond to this in a couple of weeks then we will know that
>> she
>> will probably not be able to make red blood cells anymore and the only
>> thing
>> left would be transfusions. That he would be willing to try with her. She
>> was infected at birth and has lived a year with it, she is one strong
>> kitty.
>>
>> I ran home and gave Bogie her first dose.
>>
>> Hoping and praying that this will help jump start her immune system.
>>
>> I was led to this site when I Googled the name of the drug and FELV. I
>> haven?t been able to stop reading these posts and all the information
>> here.
>> I was curious, what food you all feed your cats? The vet told me to keep
>> her
>> on kitten food but make sure it is high quality. I told the dr that Bogie
>> like boiled beef liver and he told me to give her as much as she wants.
>>
>> Is there anything else I can do to help Bogie?s immune system become
>> stronger?
>>
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