[Felvtalk] Sherries Vet
ROBERT CHAPEL
bchapel at optonline.net
Wed Aug 17 13:01:11 CDT 2016
Sherrie....
Where are you located?? We have been back and forth SO many times
here about how to get a vet to prescribe Stanazole and here your vet
prescribes it unbidden!!!! At least for a Felv+ cat I'd stay with this
one for a while.... Really hope your Kitty responds..
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> 1. Can't eat (Karen Harshbarger)
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> 4. My Leuk + kitten and disgraceful vet (Sherri Godschalk)
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> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 02:30:09 -0700
> From: Karen Harshbarger To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Can't eat
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> I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
> rescue from our yard
> We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our
> door
> We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them
> Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens
> showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens.
> They found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We
> tested rest of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we
> cleaned out our garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and
> sheltered them there. No matter what we did little Tig was so sick
> That he died before he was a yr old. He was such a sweet little cat
> that considered everything and anyone a toy--so sad. The rest tested
> negative the next two test. We all lived happily for next 3 1/2 years.
> Until this week Cole stopped eating.
>
> Took him to vet and here is bad part.
> Tested positive for feline leukemia again
> Bun10 (16-3(
> Alt 294(12-130)
> Alkp 144(14-111)
> Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
> Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
> Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
> Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
> Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
> Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
> Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
> Plt 39(151-600)
> Rest was in normal range
> The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b
> complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
>
> But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First
> few days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and
> have not been able to get him past One syringe since then without him
> throwing up. He threw up food three times and phlem or hair. He is
> very alert, drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one
> little turd today
> He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole
> back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead
> of clavamox. I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But
> only licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start. Later this
> evening after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two
> meals!! He seems to have a good day, but then has setback with
> throwup--- three times he has done that . He has lost a pound in 6
> days!!. So worried cause he cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.
> His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in
> normal range and seems ti be doing fine. His other brother BJ tested
> negative and bloodwork all normal range. Vet suggested no treatment
> for them. I housed them together and seperated Cole.
>
> I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat
> and keeps throwing up syringed food. Also worried about Ash's
> positive test for feline leukemia again.
> Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
> Please advise as soon as possible. Thank you from Cole, his family
> and I
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> Cc: Karen Harshbarger Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat
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> I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my
> prayers.
>
> ---- Karen Harshbarger wrote:
>> I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
>> rescue from our yard
>> We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our
>> door
>> We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them
>> Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens
>> showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens.
>> They found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We
>> tested rest of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we
>> cleaned out our garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and
>> sheltered them there. No matter what we did little Tig was so sick
>> That he died before he was a yr old. He was such a sweet little cat
>> that considered everything and anyone a toy--so sad. The rest tested
>> negative the next two test. We all lived happily for next 3 1/2
>> years. Until this week Cole stopped eating.
>>
>> Took him to vet and here is bad part.
>> Tested positive for feline leukemia again
>> Bun10 (16-3(
>> Alt 294(12-130)
>> Alkp 144(14-111)
>> Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
>> Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
>> Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
>> Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
>> Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
>> Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
>> Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
>> Plt 39(151-600)
>> Rest was in normal range
>> The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b
>> complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
>>
>> But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First
>> few days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and
>> have not been able to get him past One syringe since then without him
>> throwing up. He threw up food three times and phlem or hair. He is
>> very alert, drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one
>> little turd today
>> He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole
>> back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead
>> of clavamox. I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat
>> But only licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start. Later
>> this evening after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked
>> like two meals!! He seems to have a good day, but then has setback
>> with throwup--- three times he has done that . He has lost a pound
>> in 6 days!!. So worried cause he cant eat on own and keeps throwing
>> up.
>> His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in
>> normal range and seems ti be doing fine. His other brother BJ tested
>> negative and bloodwork all normal range. Vet suggested no treatment
>> for them. I housed them together and seperated Cole.
>>
>> I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat
>> and keeps throwing up syringed food. Also worried about Ash's
>> positive test for feline leukemia again.
>> Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
>> Please advise as soon as possible. Thank you from Cole, his family
>> and I
>
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> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:31:54 -0400
> From: "Katherine K." To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" Cc: Karen
> Harshbarger Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat
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> Kitties stop eating for a number of reasons. I can only speak from my
> experiences. My FeLV kitty stopped eating and gagged on syringe fed
> food
> when he had enlarged lymph nodes pressing against his stomach and
> esophagus. The lymphoma was the end for him, and I wish I had not
> waited so
> long to take him in because I feel he suffered on the last day.
>
> My other FELV cat has stopped eating numerous times in his life. Once,
> because he had an upper respiratory infection causing general malaise
> and
> inability to smell his food. Antibiotics and Hills A/D helped with
> that.
> More recently it was from stomatitis - inflammation of his gums. He
> would
> run in pain every time he took a bite. Hiding under the bed and
> crying.
>
> With all the throwing up I would also be worried about dehydration. If
> he's
> nauseated, ask your vet about pepcid and/or an appetite stimulant like
> mirtazapine. I use a handheld immersion blender to blend up cans of
> food
> with water. Makes it into a soup and they can lick it up easily. But
> sometimes you just have to syringe feed.
>
> I'm sorry, I know exactly how this feels. Just give him lots of love.
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, wrote:
>
>> I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my
>> prayers.
>>
>> ---- Karen Harshbarger wrote:
>>> I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
>> rescue from our yard
>>> We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our
>>> door
>>> We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them
>> Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens
>> showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens.
>> They
>> found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested
>> rest
>> of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we cleaned out
>> our
>> garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and sheltered them there.
>> No
>> matter what we did little Tig was so sick That he died before he was
>> a yr
>> old. He was such a sweet little cat that considered everything and
>> anyone a
>> toy--so sad. The rest tested negative the next two test. We all lived
>> happily for next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole stopped eating.
>>>
>>> Took him to vet and here is bad part.
>>> Tested positive for feline leukemia again
>>> Bun10 (16-3(
>>> Alt 294(12-130)
>>> Alkp 144(14-111)
>>> Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
>>> Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
>>> Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
>>> Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
>>> Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
>>> Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
>>> Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
>>> Plt 39(151-600)
>>> Rest was in normal range
>>> The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection,
>>> b
>> complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
>>>
>>> But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First
>>> few
>> days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and
>> have not
>> been able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing
>> up.
>> He threw up food three times and phlem or hair. He is very alert,
>> drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd
>> today
>>> He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole
>> back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead
>> of
>> clavamox. I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But
>> only
>> licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start. Later this
>> evening
>> after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!!
>> He
>> seems to have a good day, but then has setback with throwup--- three
>> times
>> he has done that . He has lost a pound in 6 days!!. So worried
>> cause he
>> cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.
>>>
>>> His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all
>>> in
>> normal range and seems ti be doing fine. His other brother BJ tested
>> negative and bloodwork all normal range. Vet suggested no treatment
>> for
>> them. I housed them together and seperated Cole.
>>>
>>> I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat
>>> and
>> keeps throwing up syringed food. Also worried about Ash's positive
>> test for feline leukemia again.
>>> Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
>>> Please advise as soon as possible. Thank you from Cole, his family
>>> and I
>>
>>
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> From: Sherri Godschalk To: Subject: [Felvtalk] My Leuk + kitten and
> disgraceful vet
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> Thanks for accepting me into the group.
>
> The stray kitten that I adopted tested positive for Leukemia two weeks
> ago.
> I was so heartbroken to hear this news. And just as heartbroken to get
> the
> response I did from my vet.
>
> My Bogie, she was always small, playful and a terror, which I loved.
> She
> also was going in and out of heat quite often and was waiting for a
> break in
> the action so I could get her spayed. Before I could I noticed she had
> slowed down some?stopped knocking things off all of the tables and
> shelves
> and started sleeping more. I took her to my vet right away. I asked
> them
> right away to do a FELV test as well as the exam. Before they would
> even
> look at her really, they gave her rabies and distemper vaccines. Vet
> said
> she was healthy and just small and that I should spay her soon. I was
> making
> the appointment at the front desk when Dr told me to come back into
> the
> room. She said Bogie scored a faint positive for Leukemia and we
> should do a
> total blood evaluation and send out some blood to a lab in
> Indianapolis to
> verify. In the same breath she told me to consider putting my girl to
> sleep?even without knowing for certain. Shocked me a little about her.
> I
> said no. The diagnosis was confirmed?positive. And that she was
> severely
> anemic. RBC 13. They put her on Prednisone and an antibiotic and had
> me come
> back next week for another blood test. I had them also run the FEVL
> again,
> just to make sure. Still positive. Her count went up to 17. So not
> much
> improvement. We set up another appointment for the next week for a
> recheck.
> The vet called me later the same day and said that the count had
> dropped to
> 15 so it this wasn?t working. So I asked her what the plan was and
> what do
> we try next. She said there was no next. She would give me pills to
> keep
> Bogie comfortable but there was nothing else she was WILLING to do.
> ?There
> are plenty of healthy cats out there that need homes? was her advice
> to me.
> I said ?This is my cat and she deserves a chance? and hung up. I was
> furious.
> I was able to get into see a vet that I used to take my pets to. I
> asked the
> woman making the appointment if I could leave the kitten at home for
> this
> appointment as she was just getting over the prior visit just 2 days
> before
> and they agreed. I thought that was nice of them. He explained so
> thoroughly
> what was going on with Bogey. Why things were not working. He
> prescribed
> Stanzolol 2mg once a day along with the Prednisone once a day. He said
> if my
> baby doesn?t respond to this in a couple of weeks then we will know
> that she
> will probably not be able to make red blood cells anymore and the only
> thing
> left would be transfusions. That he would be willing to try with her.
> She
> was infected at birth and has lived a year with it, she is one strong
> kitty.
>
> I ran home and gave Bogie her first dose.
>
> Hoping and praying that this will help jump start her immune system.
>
> I was led to this site when I Googled the name of the drug and FELV. I
> haven?t been able to stop reading these posts and all the information
> here.
> I was curious, what food you all feed your cats? The vet told me to
> keep her
> on kitten food but make sure it is high quality. I told the dr that
> Bogie
> like boiled beef liver and he told me to give her as much as she
> wants.
>
> Is there anything else I can do to help Bogie?s immune system become
> stronger?
>
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