[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 21
Diane O'Dell
diane.m.odell at gmail.com
Mon Sep 28 13:21:58 CDT 2015
For the fleas:
I like *Virbac's Knockout spray *(give it about 30 minutes to dry before
kitties walk across and ventilate, of course). It can be used on all
fabrics (curtains, bedding). It kills all stages up to 6 months. Cheapers
(a bit) on Amazon (so use Smile.Amazon to support your 501c3 of choice!).
Also, to everyone who deals with fleas … and has multiple pets (or if
you're running a shelter and need larger quantity): I HIGHLY RECOMMEND
(safe, kosher, made fresh in NY by family who cares … and flavored to mix
in food) … *www.littlecitydogs.com <http://www.littlecitydogs.com>* Ms.
King can answer questions and you can *tell her I sent you*. I LOVE to
spread this word, once I learned of her products in the flea
(tapeworm/heartworm) battle. Because her *Capstar EQUIVALENT* (instead of
$45 for 6 which … if you have six cats is only ONE day of treatment for
ADULT BITING stage fleas) … is AS EFFECTIVE flavored and* SO MUCH CHEAPER*.
I fully trust this product after research/experience - and the family who
makes it. I hope it helps all of you/shelters to save money. There is also
an ingestible once-a-month flea treatment if you're caring for feral
colonies, etc. And I am loving my new $4 Oster Flea comb from Amazon to get
"flea dust" by another means …
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> 1. Plan for Coco (Kelley S)
> 2. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (Margo)
> 3. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (dlgegg at windstream.net)
> 4. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (Lorrie)
> 5. Re: Plan for Coco (Lorrie)
> 6. Re: Plan for Coco (dlgegg at windstream.net)
> 7. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (Katherine K.)
> 8. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (Amani Oakley)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 16:51:59 -0500
> From: Kelley S <moonvine at gmail.com>
> To: felvtalk <Felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Plan for Coco
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> Hi all,
>
> Coco is FELV+ kitty #2. My plan for her so she doesn't feel so alone until
> I can bring myself to mix (all other kitties have tested negative, some
> multiple times) is to buy a large cat condo and put her in it at least a
> couple hours a day out here. Now, what I want to ask yall about is
> spaying. She is unsprayed. There is NO chance of her getting out (she'd
> have to get out of the FELV room, then out of the basement, then upstairs
> then out an exterior door upstairs, which is not going to happen, plus when
> we leave we go out the garage door to go out so if anyone WERE to follow us
> they'd still just be in the garage). As long as I've had her she has never
> seemed to go into heat. If she did it was a silent heat. Is it more
> stressful to spay her or more stressful to not spay her?
>
> She is a beautiful medium hair orange girl.
>
> I am going to ask the doctor about Winstrol for her. I am debating taking
> her to the holistic vet but she is so expensive here ($400 for an initial
> visit). I have her on Standard Process Feline Immune System support 1
> tablet 2x day. I am putting a Seresto collar on her if I can keep it on
> her We have a bad flea problem here and nothing I am doing is helping. I
> have lived all over the south and this is the worst flea problem I've ever
> seen. We have tried diatomaceous earth. Advantage doesn't do much at
> all. Revolution works for a little while. I have some Advantage spray
> which kills adults, larva and eggs to spray on carpeted furniture I am
> taking the blankies out of that room and wash them in hot water and dry on
> high heat to kill eggs Even our vet does not know what to do. I am
> declaring WAR on these flea.
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> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 18:07:04 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: Margo <toomanykitties2 at earthlink.net>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge
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> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 22:20:09 -0500
> From: <dlgegg at windstream.net>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge
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> I am so sorry for you and Merlin. I have been there far too many times
> and it never gets easier
> Do not punish yourself too much. We try to do our best and with every
> loss, we learn and future cats benefit. You did the best you knew with the
> knowledge you had and most of all, you loved him and he knew it.
>
>
> ---- Kelley S <moonvine at gmail.com> wrote:
> > They say his heart gave out.
> >
> > Kelley
>
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>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 07:40:25 -0400
> From: Lorrie <felinerescue at frontier.com>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge
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> Kelley,
> -
> You did NOT fail him. Heart disease is not easily detected and cats
> are very good at hiding their pain and illness. I had a FelV cat who
> just suddenly died at age 6 and she showed no symtoms of illness, she
> simply laid down and died on the kitchen floor. This is the longest
> any of my FelV cats lived. Most of them die at 8 to 10 months of age.
> -
> Lorrie
>
> On 09-27, Kelley S wrote:
> > I failed him.? I did not notice his symptoms in time.? Now I have
> his
> > "sister" (not blood related" by herself.? She is going to be
> > miserable,she does not like to be alone.? I had an appointment for 2
> > other cats on Monday.? I am switching her out with one of them so
> that
> > I can get her completely checked out.? Not that heart failure is
> > contagious, but I need to be more on top of my FELV+ cats, or now,
> > cat.? I can't do this anymore, I don't know how yall do it.? I don't
> > have "too many" cats overall, but I do think I have "too many" to
> > handle many chronically ill (or potentially chronically ill).? I
> guess
> > any cat is "potentially chronically ill." ? By the way, I fell even
> > more in love with this doctor when he told me he had taken home 2
> FELV+
> > kittens from the clinic and they died before 10 months old.? I read
> > between the lines that someone wanted their FELV+ kittens euthanized
> or
> > did not want them when they tested pos. ?
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 07:48:01 -0400
> From: Lorrie <felinerescue at frontier.com>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Plan for Coco
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>
> To spay or not to spay, that is the question. I had one spayed years
> ago and she came thru it fine, but this is the one who died suddenly
> at age 6. Her sister was not spayed, but put on birth control and she
> is still alive and appears fine. My other FelV cats died mostly as
> kittens ages 8 to 10 months, but one made it to a year and a half..
> -
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 09-27, Kelley S wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Coco is FELV+ kitty #2.? My plan for her so she doesn't feel so alone
> > until I can bring myself to mix (all other kitties have tested
> > negative, some multiple times) is to buy a large cat condo and put her
> > in it at least a couple hours a day out here.? Now, what I want to
> ask
> > yall about is spaying.? She is unsprayed..............
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 6:57:56 -0500
> From: <dlgegg at windstream.net>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org, felinerescue at frontier.com
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Plan for Coco
> Message-ID: <20150928075756.R8SON.8369.root at pamxwww11-z01>
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> All of my cats get spayed/neutered as soon as they are old enough.
> Unwanted kittens are targets for guns, cars and poison around here. People
> think of strays, dog or cat s a nuisance, not worthy of respect and life.
>
>
> ---- Lorrie <felinerescue at frontier.com> wrote:
> >
> > To spay or not to spay, that is the question. I had one spayed years
> > ago and she came thru it fine, but this is the one who died suddenly
> > at age 6. Her sister was not spayed, but put on birth control and she
> > is still alive and appears fine. My other FelV cats died mostly as
> > kittens ages 8 to 10 months, but one made it to a year and a half..
> > -
> > Lorrie
> >
> >
> > On 09-27, Kelley S wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > Coco is FELV+ kitty #2.? My plan for her so she doesn't feel so
> alone
> > > until I can bring myself to mix (all other kitties have tested
> > > negative, some multiple times) is to buy a large cat condo and put
> her
> > > in it at least a couple hours a day out here.? Now, what I want to
> ask
> > > yall about is spaying.? She is unsprayed..............
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:32:34 -0400
> From: "Katherine K." <kathstix at gmail.com>
> To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge
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> I'm so sorry Kelley. Thank you for taking such good care of Merlin. I know
> he appreciated it. <3 <3 <3
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Lorrie <felinerescue at frontier.com> wrote:
>
> > Kelley,
> > -
> > You did NOT fail him. Heart disease is not easily detected and cats
> > are very good at hiding their pain and illness. I had a FelV cat who
> > just suddenly died at age 6 and she showed no symtoms of illness, she
> > simply laid down and died on the kitchen floor. This is the longest
> > any of my FelV cats lived. Most of them die at 8 to 10 months of age.
> > -
> > Lorrie
> >
> > On 09-27, Kelley S wrote:
> > > I failed him.? I did not notice his symptoms in time.? Now I have
> > his
> > > "sister" (not blood related" by herself.? She is going to be
> > > miserable,she does not like to be alone.? I had an appointment for
> 2
> > > other cats on Monday.? I am switching her out with one of them so
> > that
> > > I can get her completely checked out.? Not that heart failure is
> > > contagious, but I need to be more on top of my FELV+ cats, or now,
> > > cat.? I can't do this anymore, I don't know how yall do it.? I
> don't
> > > have "too many" cats overall, but I do think I have "too many" to
> > > handle many chronically ill (or potentially chronically ill).? I
> > guess
> > > any cat is "potentially chronically ill." ? By the way, I fell even
> > > more in love with this doctor when he told me he had taken home 2
> > FELV+
> > > kittens from the clinic and they died before 10 months old.? I read
> > > between the lines that someone wanted their FELV+ kittens euthanized
> > or
> > > did not want them when they tested pos. ?
> >
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> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:26:30 +0000
> From: Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
> To: "felvtalk at felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk at felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge
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> Kelley
>
> My sadness is profound for your loss. My Zander ? he of the wondrous
> response to Winstrol ? also finally succumbed at age 7 to a very bad heart.
> The vet said she had never seen anything so bad, and yet there were no
> indications of any heart problem for the whole time. My first thought ?
> like you ? was that I must have missed something and I even blamed the
> Winstrol for the dilated cardiomyopathy. I went on line and searched and
> searched but couldn?t find a link. I suspect now that the virus distorted
> his heart as part of its pathology. When I read about your Merlin, that
> seemed to fit with the theory that the virus does this to them.
>
> Don?t beat yourself up. I couldn?t have been closer to my Zander and my
> husband and I were doting parents and were constantly with him, but we saw
> nothing.
>
> Whenever I lose one of my darling babies, I have to constantly remind
> myself that if not for me, they would have been out on the street or put
> down at an early age. If not for me, they wouldn?t have had days of
> sunshine and happiness and love and nourishment. You know that too.
>
> Still, it doesn?t ease the pain much, I know.
>
> Amani
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Kelley S
> Sent: September-27-15 3:08 PM
> To: felvtalk
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge
>
> They say his heart gave out.
>
> Kelley
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