[Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Margo toomanykitties2 at earthlink.net
Wed Oct 28 06:50:46 CDT 2015


Many in which group have used it?

-----Original Message-----
>From: dlgegg at windstream.net
>Sent: Oct 27, 2015 10:07 PM
>To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
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>To me, if my babies get better, I don't care what did it as long as it works.  I prefer not to look a gift horse in the mouth.  Plus, many in the group have used it so it must be safe.
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>---- Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
>> Winstrol is VERY SAFE. Seriously.
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>> What difference does it make if you "mistakenly" attribute the improvement to Winstrol, as long as you get an improvement. I didn't mistakenly attribute Zander's improvement to Winstrol because I ran WEEKLY blood work, and was doing so long before I started the Winstrol.
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>> With the Winstrol, I expect you to see an improvement pretty quickly regarding haematocrit and a little later, the red cells.
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>> Amani
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>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marsha
>> Sent: October-27-15 8:13 PM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
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>> My vet said that darbepoetin is a newer drug that he felt is safer.  But I'm not sure how much he has used it.  I haven't even started researching it.  The cyclophosphamide suppresses Peaches' immune system, so it may have a protective effect from the immune system.  Still looking for a source for Winstrol.  Two local vets are looking it up for me.  Neither has used it for 20-25 years.  One said she used to use it a lot for CRF cats that were anemic and cachexic.  She didn't have any issues with it (adverse or side effects), but doesn't remember it as anything spectacular either.  She cautioned that since Peaches is slowly improving anyway (appetite - I won't know about blood values until next week), that I might mistakenly attribute improvement to Winstrol (if I got some for her), when she was going to improve anyway.  Peaches' primary vet chuckled when I said her oncologist hadn't heard of it - "She must be young!" he said.  So anybody who's looking for Winstrol or a vet 
> experienced with it, check out the local vets that are in their late 50's at least.
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>> Marsha
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>> On 10/27/2015 6:54 PM, Maya D'Alessio wrote:
>> I would be careful about using erythropoeitin or darbepoeitin, both have been shown to eventually (but not in every case) cause the cat's own immune system to recognize the drug and destroy it, which would be less of a problem if that was it, but unfortunately it also starts to recognize the cats own natural erythropoeitin and destroy it as well. This ends catastrophically badly, as without erythropoeitin, very little blood cell production is able to happen in the body. It seems to take some time for this reaction to happen, but I was just reading up on it for my guy (Merlot), and from what I read I would be very hesitant to use it. I would try Winstrol or something else first, before I tried the erythropoeitin.
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